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Morning Du at this moment a oath keeper is in a cell thinking of cooperating (Original Post) Duncanpup Jan 2022 OP
It will all lead to the Slobfather malaise Jan 2022 #1
They are the master race malaise Duncanpup Jan 2022 #2
Sad, then, that many residents of modern-day Poland EYESORE 9001 Jan 2022 #25
The irony I agree Duncanpup Jan 2022 #29
Also, this comes on top of nearly 50 years of oppression from the USSR EYESORE 9001 Jan 2022 #32
As a descendant of Polish peoples Diamond_Dog Jan 2022 #34
No Polish ancestry AFAIK EYESORE 9001 Jan 2022 #47
"All roads lead to Russia" SheltieLover Jan 2022 #9
Speaker Pelosi said it to his face Botany Jan 2022 #19
Ty! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #24
But ... Desert_Leslie Jan 2022 #31
Milley looks like COL Mustard Jan 2022 #36
I am reading Delphinus Jan 2022 #57
We need investigations to see to what extent the military and law enforcement are infested brewens Jan 2022 #18
Absolutely Rebl2 Jan 2022 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jan 2022 #22
THIS malaise Jan 2022 #23
Starting with the Flynn brothers! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #26
Except they promoted Flynn. gab13by13 Jan 2022 #38
😱 SheltieLover Jan 2022 #42
Failing upwards, a movie about the Flynn brothers. sarcasmo Jan 2022 #43
A 20 year prison sentence is a great incentive. madaboutharry Jan 2022 #3
So true Duncanpup Jan 2022 #4
ATTN Oath Keepers Counts 9 through 17 Did youthrew away your "burner phone?" Botany Jan 2022 #17
Good one! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #27
It takes a long time but if you go to the link in my post "they" have all the Oath Keepers' texts .. Botany Jan 2022 #28
Boats, too? SheltieLover Jan 2022 #30
They had their guns, assualt rifles, and other gear in VA and were planning that the bridges over .. Botany Jan 2022 #37
Omg! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #41
A lot of it is their indictments (link) Botany Jan 2022 #45
Ty! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #50
Go to the DU link some nice snips there Botany Jan 2022 #51
Will do! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #52
One hopes Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #5
A sewer rat will save its own skin Duncanpup Jan 2022 #7
True Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #12
A traitor is in a cell. Oath Keeper Traitor Emile Jan 2022 #6
Long time in the feds is motivation to talk. Duncanpup Jan 2022 #8
And being the first to turn rambler_american Jan 2022 #40
4 already cooperated, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #10
Awesome Duncanpup Jan 2022 #11
Yes I heard on Velchi this morning that 4 Oath Keepers are cooperating with the doc03 Jan 2022 #39
I wonder if those who thought torture was fine to obtain information still support it. olegramps Jan 2022 #13
I agree Duncanpup Jan 2022 #15
I wouldn't be surprised if he has already been cooperating. GoCubsGo Jan 2022 #14
Difficult to figure out. If you are the prosecutor.... offer a deal or 3Hotdogs Jan 2022 #16
Difficult, but that's the way it should be, eh? GoCubsGo Jan 2022 #20
They've had a few in custody for months already, so they're probably ready to blab or have Vinca Jan 2022 #33
So yer telling me. The Jungle 1 Jan 2022 #35
Good news. TexLaProgressive Jan 2022 #44
Exactly Duncanpup Jan 2022 #49
And why not? His fuehrer failed him. paleotn Jan 2022 #46
They will hold out in hopes of a pardon on 1.20.25 Buckeyeblue Jan 2022 #48
Don't think so. Lasher Jan 2022 #55
They weren't charged yet. I don't believe you can grant a preemptive pardon Buckeyeblue Jan 2022 #59
Yes they can. Lasher Jan 2022 #61
Happy thought near the start of the day. lark Jan 2022 #53
That "leader" of the oath keeper will squeel Javaman Jan 2022 #54
I imagine the pucker factor got pretty high pretty quick COL Mustard Jan 2022 #56
They were stupid cannon fodder. Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #58
Oooo, good to hear. "Sing" little birdie. Sing! 🐦 electric_blue68 Jan 2022 #60

malaise

(269,054 posts)
1. It will all lead to the Slobfather
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 07:55 AM
Jan 2022

Roger Stone, Flynn, Miller and the rest of the coup goons.
Take that to the Bank and get thee to the greatest page

Duncanpup

(12,860 posts)
2. They are the master race malaise
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:01 AM
Jan 2022

And as a descendant of untermensch Slav Russian I can only say FUCK YOU oaf keepers you fascist punks.

EYESORE 9001

(25,941 posts)
25. Sad, then, that many residents of modern-day Poland
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:11 AM
Jan 2022

seek to recreate a nazi-like regime within their borders..

EYESORE 9001

(25,941 posts)
32. Also, this comes on top of nearly 50 years of oppression from the USSR
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:29 AM
Jan 2022

You’d think all Polish people would be yearning for freedom after all that. Gotta remember, it was no picnic before the nazis invaded either, being ruled by autocrats in a battle-scarred border state.

EYESORE 9001

(25,941 posts)
47. No Polish ancestry AFAIK
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:35 AM
Jan 2022

One of my ancestors fled famine in Finland for Sweden, then emigrated to the New Sweden colony that was in parts of modern Pennsylvania and Delaware. He lived to be 100 - a real accomplishment in the mid-1600s. He was referred to in records as ‘Old Martin Martensen’ - the ‘Swedified’ version of his Finnish name. I’m confident he didn’t miss the arduous, brutish conditions of his youth.

Point is, no corner of Europe was spared from governance at the whim of autocrats and despots, so it’s bewildering that any of their descendants would actively collaborate with forces of oppression. Short memories, I guess.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
9. "All roads lead to Russia"
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:18 AM
Jan 2022

Last edited Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:07 AM - Edit history (1)

2nd half of quote, in this instance, might well say "through the slob & his coconspirators."

Botany

(70,516 posts)
19. Speaker Pelosi said it to his face
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:51 AM
Jan 2022

Please not the General, Mark Meadows, and others can not look Nancy in the face.




Jan. 6, '21 was just one more part of a continuing crime that was and still is the largest crime in America's history.

Desert_Leslie

(131 posts)
31. But ...
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:25 AM
Jan 2022

Notice that Benjamin Franklin -- appearing right above General Milley in this photo -- is listening to Speaker Pelosi with rapt attention.

Delphinus

(11,831 posts)
57. I am reading
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 01:26 PM
Jan 2022

Peril by Woodward & Kosta. The book spends time with Milley and what he did, how he worked with the orange one, and other information. It is a fascinating read. They also go back and talk about how Biden decided to run, the steps leading up to it, Clyburn's talk and assistance, and so much more. It's not just the last days of TFG.

brewens

(13,596 posts)
18. We need investigations to see to what extent the military and law enforcement are infested
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:49 AM
Jan 2022

with these degenerate shitstains. Anything that looks, sounds or stinks like a white supremacist needs to be thrown out.

Response to brewens (Reply #18)

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
26. Starting with the Flynn brothers!
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:11 AM
Jan 2022

Absolutely! Strip them of their gubmint pensions & other benefits & throw them in cages!

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
3. A 20 year prison sentence is a great incentive.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:03 AM
Jan 2022

I have little doubt more than one of the 11 will cooperate.

Too bad they were using burner phones.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
17. ATTN Oath Keepers Counts 9 through 17 Did youthrew away your "burner phone?"
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:45 AM
Jan 2022

The feds can charge you with COUNTS 9 17: | © 18USC.§§ 15120),2 ! + (Tampering with Documents or + Proceedings and Aiding and abetting)

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21178554-charges

Botany

(70,516 posts)
28. It takes a long time but if you go to the link in my post "they" have all the Oath Keepers' texts ..
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:18 AM
Jan 2022

... including during the take over the Capitol and who had the guns and boats in VA ready to
wage war on D.C.. Those O.K. mother fuckers are looking at life in a super max prison if they
don't cooperate.

BTW my conspiracy idea:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216245930

Botany

(70,516 posts)
37. They had their guns, assualt rifles, and other gear in VA and were planning that the bridges over ..
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:54 AM
Jan 2022

... the Potomac were gonna be shut down and so as the great battle for their "free dumbs" went on
they were gonna cross the Potomac with their guns and their QRF & QRTs (quick reaction force and
quick reaction teams). Who were staying in something like a comfort inn in VA.

BTW The O.K. are just bat shit crazy ... they claim that their oath was to the Constitution
and the Constitution says that on Jan. 6th that after the electoral votes are counted a winner
is declared to be President.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
41. Omg!
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:12 AM
Jan 2022

I must have missed posts on this info!

Let's hope the judges keep them locked up pending trials! They redefine "clear & present danger!"

tyvm for sharing!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
50. Ty!
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jan 2022

Surreal!!!

Ty for sharing links. No time to read indictments, sadly. Much appreciate you sharing.

Keep them in cages pending trials!

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
12. True
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:30 AM
Jan 2022

I’m hoping that one or more rolls over on the ones above, lots depends on how much they were paid and how afraid they are of that group.

Emile

(22,789 posts)
6. A traitor is in a cell. Oath Keeper Traitor
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:07 AM
Jan 2022

I wonder how he will cooperate? Facing a long prison term I look for him to squeal like a pig!

rambler_american

(789 posts)
40. And being the first to turn
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:03 AM
Jan 2022

has its advantages They are probably tripping over each other to be first to cooperate. I'll be right back. Just realized we are outta popcorn.

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
10. 4 already cooperated,
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:24 AM
Jan 2022

it helped with the encryption. It will lead to the people at the Willard Hotel; Stone, Bannon, Flynn.

doc03

(35,348 posts)
39. Yes I heard on Velchi this morning that 4 Oath Keepers are cooperating with the
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:55 AM
Jan 2022

investigation. I am looking for them to indict Proud Boys and others soon also.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
13. I wonder if those who thought torture was fine to obtain information still support it.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:31 AM
Jan 2022

It was these tough guys who ridiculed those who opposed it as faint-heated pansies. There is little doubt that they would quickly change their minds if faced with being subjected to torture to obtain information that is vital for the protection of our democracy against both foreign and domestic enemies. I still reject the use of torture for any reason even for these scumbags.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
14. I wouldn't be surprised if he has already been cooperating.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:33 AM
Jan 2022

And, they're just not telling us. Nor, should they. Oh, to be a fly on the wall.

3Hotdogs

(12,391 posts)
16. Difficult to figure out. If you are the prosecutor.... offer a deal or
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:43 AM
Jan 2022

let 'im stew in the slammer for a week or two. Get a sense of the quality of food, the furry creatures that may be sharing your cell with you.... or in the back of your mind, Jeffrey Epstein who was probably willing to sing until all of the guards just happened to need to take a wizz at the same time that poor ol Jeff answered the question for himself, "To be, or not to be."

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
20. Difficult, but that's the way it should be, eh?
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:52 AM
Jan 2022

But, these guys usually turn out to be cowards, who don't want to go down for someone else. I have a feeling Mr. I-Just-Fucking-Shot-Myself is no different.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
33. They've had a few in custody for months already, so they're probably ready to blab or have
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:29 AM
Jan 2022

already given up the goods. The FBI had to get into that encrypted messaging somehow.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
35. So yer telling me.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:47 AM
Jan 2022

These knuckle dragging losers have cognitive thought processes.
Yea and I got a bridge to sell ya.

TexLaProgressive

(12,157 posts)
44. Good news.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:28 AM
Jan 2022

What really torques me is the gall of calling themselves Oath Keepers. You and I took an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. These people or oath breakers, not keepers. They want to damage the government which is formed by the very constitution we swore to defend. Lock em up!

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
59. They weren't charged yet. I don't believe you can grant a preemptive pardon
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 03:55 PM
Jan 2022

I know Ford issued one to Nixon. But it was never challenged.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
61. Yes they can.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:40 PM
Jan 2022
As decided in Ex Parte Garland (1866), presidents may issue pardons at any time after the commission of a federal offense, even before federal charges have been filed or a sentence has been imposed. Such was the case when Ford pardoned Nixon. There are other instances of presidents circumventing judicial processes in anticipation of legal action. Abraham Lincoln issued preemptive pardons during the Civil War and so did Jimmy Carter, who pardoned Vietnam draft evaders who had not been charged for their actions.

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/the-history-of-the-pardon-power

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
54. That "leader" of the oath keeper will squeel
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:53 AM
Jan 2022

He is a sociopath and as such they always do everything they can for self preservation.

COL Mustard

(5,906 posts)
56. I imagine the pucker factor got pretty high pretty quick
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:41 AM
Jan 2022

Those may not have been sonic booms; they could be assholes slamming shut!

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