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@RonFilipkowski
Trump tells PA GOP why he is placing an emphasis on Supervisor of Elections races in 22: We have to be a lot sharper the next time when it comes to counting the vote .. Sometimes the vote counter is more important than the candidate. They have to get a lot tougher and smarter.
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7:14 AM · Jan 15, 2022
Emile
(22,789 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)after millions died when he was in office:
Joseph Stalin 18791953
Soviet dictator
I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is thiswho will count the votes, and how.
onenote
(42,714 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)"I consider it completely unimportant who in the Party will vote, or how. But what is extraordinarily important is thiswho will count the votes, and how. Joseph Stalin, 1923 (as quoted in Oxford Essential Quotations, 2017)
Apparently from a memoir by Stalin's personal secretary.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)Should be sequestered without communication NOW.
KS Toronado
(17,259 posts)All IQ4.5 knows is lying, cheating, & stealing
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)we need to lock up as many as we can so they can't screw up the 2022/2024 elections.
SDNY, did you hear that? Can you at least work on the cases at your end?
Locking up the king snake may scare the others into doing what's right so we can get the show on the road and get back to truly making this country great again..
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)starting with 2022. They are playing for keeps & they have zero ethics or scruples. They also have the MSM on their side.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Submariner
(12,504 posts)worthy of a cell at Leavenworth Super Max.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)"get tougher and smarter"? WTF does that mean?
we know what he means, but that's not what he said, and that mob-boss elliptical language keeps it from being prosecutable.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)I would prefer Florence because its all-solitary confinement and he wont get the chance to corrupt the minds of the other people on his cell block, but Leavenworth would also be fine.
The ideal situation would be to put the entire bunch on one of those islands in the Pacific we used as an airfield during World War II, without any form of communication, and assign four Navy destroyers to keep people away from it. We could go all Dirty Dozen and make them build their own housing.
Tickle
(2,525 posts)on the counter to. I don't get it why both sides talk about the "counter". I'm not trying to bring legitimacy to tfg but I do polling work for my town. I am 100% sure that there is no cheating. I don't know how you could cheat. When voting is done we stay and count in 4 different columns. ballets out, ballets used, number of people who voted for dem ind writein and rep have to equal the ballets used.
Plus we do require ID of some sort
PortTack
(32,778 posts)This is where the m$m boogie man comes in ranting for ratings. They want us to be afraid so we tune in for details!! Gawd I hate them.
Even Robert Reich made a utube clip about how the media does this. Now, having said that, Im not being Pollyanna, but realistic
Action is key VOLUNTEER, DONATE, VOTE!!!
Tickle
(2,525 posts)worth repeating
VOLUNTEER
DONATE
VOTE
PortTack
(32,778 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,011 posts)Unless the partisan counters have access to voting machine programs, its hard to cheat. But with mail ballots, there are ways for the counter to cheat. One change in the recent Texas voter suppression laws relates to checking signatures. In the past, election clerks had to check the signature on the mail ballot against a signature no more than six years old, presumably because people must renew a drivers license every six years. Republicans changed this requirement to allow matching of signatures as much as thirty years old. I can look today at my signature from thirty years ago and see differences, as our handwriting changes as we age. Plus, some people tend to hurriedly scrawl signatures without worrying that it might not match an official signature at some point in the future. That change opens the door to partisan clerks calling a signature mismatch and throwing out the ballot.
Another way to cheat is to find a minor mistake on a mail ballot but hold it until near electionnday to prevent the voter from having time to fix the error. Another Republican trick is for the permanent election staff to deliberately enter an error into the system from a new voter registration form. By changing a middle initial or changing the spelling of a name slightly, when the voter may have to cast a provisional ballot that is never counted.
And of course there was Brian Kemps trick of just not processing around 50,000 voter applications until after the election. We need completely independent elections staff that are not partisan to either political party.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)Ballets?
Tickle
(2,525 posts)we document everything. The ballets all need to be counted correctly. We have to stay while they important people (lol) count stuff up and may have a question if the numbers don't add up
PortTack
(32,778 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 15, 2022, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Not running
He really is just so transparent...he just cant help but broadcast his crimes and his evil intentions
Nevilledog
(51,121 posts)PortTack
(32,778 posts)She still says he has to believe its a slam dunk win for him
bluesbassman
(19,374 posts)The MSM treated him like a demigod in 15 and he raked in the cash and brand recognition, the two things he values most. He had no intention, or desire, of winning, yet he won and the cash and brand recognition skyrocketed. Plus he found, with the aid of some twisted Constitutional interpretationists, that he was legally untouchable. So moving forward he has no reason to think it all wont happen again.
PortTack
(32,778 posts)bluesbassman
(19,374 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)a coup is a coup is a coup is a coup.
Nevilledog
(51,121 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,828 posts)Gangs of New York
LENNY0229
(185 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,698 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)Several posters here seem to have bought into the fake claim (started by Republicans after Biden won Pennsylvania) that Stalin said something along these lines.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/mar/27/viral-image/no-joseph-stalin-didnt-say-statement-about-electio/
Of course, Trump might have seen those stories and believed them.
LudwigPastorius
(9,155 posts)maybe we're collectively too stupid to continue as a country.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Here is the quote from that great leader, Joseph Stalin:
Joseph Stalin 18791953
Soviet dictator
I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is thiswho will count the votes, and how.
Nevilledog
(51,121 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)So Stalin might have been one of his other role models.
Nevilledog
(51,121 posts)Unless it was an audio book.
EleanorR
(2,393 posts)I'm guessing that's Putin's influence.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/08/facing-dim-present-putin-turns-back-glorious-stalin/
onenote
(42,714 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,901 posts)He's scared to death that's where he'll be. He's an expert liar and he's sweating right now. Remember when Ghouliani had his "wardrobe malfunction"? That moment is coming for DJT and sooner than he thinks.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Unless he is disqualified under the 14th Amendment.
Eugene Debs ran for President on the Socialist Party ticket in the early 20th Century from his jail cell.
Ford_Prefect
(7,901 posts)as those would be denied him as a prisoner. Someone would have to represent him as a proxy. No speeches, no communicating with campaign staff, none of that which gives him oxygen.
He'd have to be paroled or pardoned, neither of which seem likely. No matter how much he and his enablers may say it will happen, It won't.
If we entertain the fear of it rather than take steps to actually win, that is if we worry ourselves into defensive rather than outspoken campaigning then the GOP will win.
His niece has been saying he'll fold like a wet paper bag once he's charged and arrested. He is not personally brave. He's a bully who cannot deal with losing at anything.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Eugene Debs campaigned by sending letters to supporters (most newspapers wouldnt cover him) and his campaign never had a chance anyway.
He ran 6 times, and got 6% in 1912 and then got his 10 year sentence for sedition.
If Trump could win from prison I guess he could try pardoning himself.
Ford_Prefect
(7,901 posts)Tommymac
(7,263 posts)In Red Counties they are going to vote rethug.
In Blue Counties they are going to vote mostly Democratic.
And in all polling places I have worked in it is pretty much the same. (I also delivered lunch and supplies to several dozen polling places as part of the Kerry Ground Game on election day 2004 so I have seen a lot of how they all operate.)
And at most polling places the Supers median age is somewhere south of the 1950's. And they have protoge's who have been waiting in the wings since 1969.
No one runs for these spots because they (the regulars) are appointed by the county/town/city board.
There are both minority and majority inspectors in all polling places too. Plus lately both parties have had volunteer attorneys either as official poll watchers or on call to all polling sites. The supervisor does not operate in a vacuum.
I think PA's system is solid, the folks who run the polls are all older and have lots of integrity as far as their responsibilities go. Kinda like the guy in GA.
This does not scare me at all, at least in PA.
Our legislature on the other hand is being run by RW wackos, has been for years. But as long as we have a Democratic Governor PA will be ok.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)My guess is that's how DFP turned PA in 2016.
liberalmediaaddict
(766 posts)And needs to be criminally charged if he keeps trying to interfere with our elections and incite violence
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)... our Attorney General Josh Shapiro can have him arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit election fraud. That would look awesome on Shapiro's resume, since he's now RUNNING for GOVERNOR!