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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy do these Islamists Target Jewish People ?
Do they hate Jewish people for the same reason white racists do. I think so.
They both spew conspiracies about Jewish control.
LakeArenal
(28,820 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,294 posts)Polybius
(15,428 posts)Just look at Boko Haram in Nigeria.
JI7
(89,251 posts)Jews are a minority but during terrorist attacks they specifically target jews like in France and India.
And right now with the hostage situation. There are far more churches in the US , especially in Texas but they go after the Jews.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Lot of Christian on Christian violence in American history also, and around the world
witness the church killings and burnings recently and throughout history.
Muslim on Muslim violence, witness Al Queda, mortal enemies of the Taliban
etc
etc..
JI7
(89,251 posts)when we talk about black lives matter which is specifically about how black people are targeted more than others. It doesn't mean bad things don't happen to others either.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)if memory serves. And here was that period after 9/11 And Sikhs and anyone not white.
JI7
(89,251 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,373 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,373 posts)I neglected to read the post you were replying to. It was a knee-jerk strawman.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Previously, Jews were fairly well tolerated in the Ottoman Empire and other Muslim countries.
JI7
(89,251 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)edhopper
(33,585 posts)That is just foolish.
It started when formerly tolerant Muslims became fundamentalist and they used Isrwal and the Palestinian plight to consolidate power.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries
But to say antisemitism in the Muslim world started in 1948 is still foolish.
Beastly Boy
(9,373 posts)And keep ignoring history.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-treatment-of-jews-in-arab-islamic-countries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_affair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1834_looting_of_Safed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allahdad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mawza_Exile
Try to blame any of this on Jewish Zionism and British imperialism! And this doesn't even touch on the history of atrocities against Jews in the Muslim lands in the 20th century.
Which makes me curious: what is your definition of "fairly well tolerated"? Killing and expelling Jews in their hundreds instead of millions?
BTW, It was the United Nations that established Israel as a Jewish state. Just so you know.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,373 posts)When you have a choice between being annihilated by bigots with impunity and being slapped around by bigots with impunity, I wonder what you would choose.
Somehow "enjoyed much greater tolerance" doesn't sound right.
Jilly_in_VA
(9,982 posts)the Muslim equivalent of Christofascists, basically. I've been studying Islam recently, and everything these idiots are doing is antithetical to the teachings of Muhammad, just as what Christofascists do is antithetical to the teachings of Jesus. Too bad Muhammad didn't promise to come back, although he did promise a judgment day, and these guys will (literally) catch hell.
keithbvadu2
(36,823 posts)Trump's Christians were marching in Charlottesville yelling their insults about Jews and the ovens ready again for the Jews.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErId5BuXIAATo73?format=jpg&name=medium
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)But can anyone who embraces religion as an excuse for violence be anything but a religious fraud?
iemanja
(53,035 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)hostage in the US in Texas have to do with Palestinians.
iemanja
(53,035 posts)and answered the question in a general sense. Jews, of course, are not all Zionists.
JI7
(89,251 posts)The hostage taker's sister had blamed the Jews for what happened to her .
DBoon
(22,366 posts)proudly different with a glorious history of not being absorbed into dominant cultures yet still surviving
That is reason enough for some to hate them.
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Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Yandex
(273 posts)Yandex
(273 posts)This correlates some of what I postulated above.
"Some scholars would look to the pre-Christian world and see in the attitudes of ancient Greeks and Romans the origins of an enduring hostility. Religious Studies scholar Peter Schäfer believes the exclusive nature of the monotheistic Jewish faith, the apparent haughty sense of being a chosen people, a refusal to intermarry, a Sabbath observance and the practice of circumcision were all things that marked Jews out in antiquity for a particular odium.
Finding examples of hostility towards Jews in classical sources is not difficult. The politician and lawyer Cicero, 106-43BC, once reminded a jury of the odium of Jewish gold and how they [stick together] and are influential in informal assemblies. The Roman historian Tacitus, c.56-120AD, was contemptuous of base and abominable Jewish customs and was deeply disturbed by those of his compatriots who had renounced their ancestral gods and converted to Judaism. The Roman poet and satirist Juvenal, c.55-130AD, shared his disgust at the behavior of converts to Judaism besides denouncing Jews generally as drunken and rowdy.
These few examples may point towards the existence of antisemitism in antiquity. But there is little reason to believe that Jews were the objects of a specific prejudice beyond the generalized contempt that both Greeks and Romans exhibited towards barbarians especially conquered and colonized peoples. Juvenal was every bit as rude about Greeks and other foreigners in Rome as he was about Jews. He complained bitterly: I cannot stand
a Greek city of Rome. And yet what part of the dregs comes from Greece? Once the full extent of Juvenals prejudice has been recognized, his snide remarks about Jews might be understood as being more indicative of an altogether more sweeping xenophobia."
https://theconversation.com/antisemitism-how-the-origins-of-historys-oldest-hatred-still-hold-sway-today-87878
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)At least the Jews don't care very much.
Muslims and Christians both have gone on to attempt to convert or kill the blasphemers.
PCIntern
(25,556 posts)tells me a whole lot about you and your motives. You aint fooling me for one instant.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)PCIntern
(25,556 posts)Response to PCIntern (Reply #33)
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