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Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 12:35 AM Jan 2022

For two Italian musicians, being unvaccinated means being locked out of public life

Married cellists Claudio Ronco, right, and Emanuela Vozza are both unvaccinated and unable to perform publicly under Italy's coronavirus rules.



OSIGO, Italy - After many rounds of rules targeting the unvaccinated, the chamber musician's new life is unrecognizable from the old. Claudio Ronco once performed all over Europe, but now he can't even board a plane. He can't check into a hotel, eat at restaurant or get a coffee at a bar. Most important, he can't use the water taxis needed to get around Venice, his home for 30 years - a loss of mobility that recently prompted him to gather up two of his prized cellos, lock up his Venetian apartment and retreat with his wife to a home owned by his in-laws one hour away in the hills.

"Isolation," Ronco called it, on the fourth day in a row that he hadn't left the house.

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For people like Ronco, the choice is to get inoculated or face exclusion.

Ronco, 66, knows some people who have relented, including a fellow musician with three kids and a mortgage. He knows others who are scrambling for hard-to-get medical exemptions. But Ronco - an Orthodox Jew and a specialist in 18th-century music who tends to distrust the trends of the masses - figures this is an instance when he can try to withstand the mounting pressure. His savings are thinning, but not gone. His children are grown. His wife, Emanuela Vozza, a fellow cellist, also unvaccinated, feels as he does. So day after day, his resistance has continued: A musician who once played at Milan's famed La Scala has been instead working alongside Vozza, editing recordings they've made in their countryside living room, unable for the foreseeable future to perform for a crowd.

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Some of the unvaccinated people Ronco knows keep a low profile. Ronco understands why: Their decisions have been criticized vehemently by politicians, by virologists, even by Pope Francis. Days ago, Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi said the unvaccinated are responsible for "most of the problems we have today," disproportionately occupying intensive care beds.

"We're flat-earthers," Ronco said, describing the view of people like himself that has taken hold. "With total disrespect for the system and humanity itself."

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/For-two-Italian-musicians-being-unvaccinated-16782841.php

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For two Italian musicians, being unvaccinated means being locked out of public life (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jan 2022 OP
"Total disrespect for humanity itself. . ." Those two can remove themselves niyad Jan 2022 #1
They'll be joining Herman soon enough! Initech Jan 2022 #9
Sooner rather than later, one hopes. niyad Jan 2022 #10
How does he expect us to respond? NQAS Jan 2022 #2
OK then. Their choice. Abolishinist Jan 2022 #3
And all self inflicted ornotna Jan 2022 #4
Good. Fuck them. Orrex Jan 2022 #5
Demovictory9, what is your take on this? nt ramen Jan 2022 #6
My take is "get vaxxed!" Demovictory9 Jan 2022 #7
Totally. I really wish they would have, ramen Jan 2022 #19
Anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers, wow, you couldn't possibly get any stupider. Initech Jan 2022 #8
these people and their fucking delusions Skittles Jan 2022 #11
"With total disrespect for [...] humanity itself." FreepFryer Jan 2022 #12
The "flat-earthers" quote isn't actually him describing himself and his wife, it's his Wingus Dingus Jan 2022 #13
They'll soon be flat broke malaise Jan 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jan 2022 #15
Memo to Ronco and Vozza: Being unvaccinated is NOT performance art. no_hypocrisy Jan 2022 #16
Don't Care About Their Problems ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #17
Self imposed martyrdom wanting sympathy alphafemale Jan 2022 #18
There are a lot of things that will get you ostracized Effete Snob Jan 2022 #20
If the shoe fits, Ronco, wear it proudly. boston bean Jan 2022 #21
when Omicron finds them - and it will - all bets are off. Blues Heron Jan 2022 #22
Society is better off without such selfish people who don't care about who they infect and possibly Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #23

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
2. How does he expect us to respond?
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 12:42 AM
Jan 2022

Never mind.

I don’t care.

No sympathy at all. Selfish. Boorish. Deserves to ge shunned.

I don’t care how you explain it or excuse it.

Abolishinist

(1,296 posts)
3. OK then. Their choice.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 12:43 AM
Jan 2022

"We're flat-earthers," Ronco said, describing the view of people like himself that has taken hold. "With total disrespect for the system and humanity itself."

That being said, I must admit that I've always had a thing for female cellists. And I do have very fond memories of my one trip to Venice.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
13. The "flat-earthers" quote isn't actually him describing himself and his wife, it's his
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 05:18 AM
Jan 2022

way of illustrating how OTHER people see him and are treating him for being unvaccinated. That said, it's hard to feel sympathy for his plight.

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

no_hypocrisy

(46,114 posts)
16. Memo to Ronco and Vozza: Being unvaccinated is NOT performance art.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:23 AM
Jan 2022

For a multitude, vaccination is survival.

You threaten the survival of others.

That seems to be antithetical to Art generally.

ProfessorGAC

(65,044 posts)
17. Don't Care About Their Problems
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 08:11 AM
Jan 2022

It's a self-inflicted wound. They can suffer the pain.
The "flat earther" reputation they're whining about is legit as they are demonstrating their ignorance daily.
Want to work playing chamber music? Get the vax, idiots!

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
20. There are a lot of things that will get you ostracized
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 10:16 AM
Jan 2022

It's legal to smear poop on your face and walk around town, but you don't see:

"Man Who Smears Poop On Face Feels Isolated"

C'mon. You want to smear poop on your face? Have at it. But nobody's going to let you into their shop, their airplane, their office, and so on. Enjoy the poop, though.

Blues Heron

(5,936 posts)
22. when Omicron finds them - and it will - all bets are off.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 10:57 AM
Jan 2022

Do they mask? Or is their particular obssesive defiant disorder just the vax?

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
23. Society is better off without such selfish people who don't care about who they infect and possibly
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 11:04 AM
Jan 2022

kill...no sympathy at all.

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