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This was posted by an anti-vaxxer Covid patient, WHILE in the ICU. He's just put on a vent (Original Post) Siwsan Jan 2022 OP
Soon he'll be able to see whether his belief in heaven & hell is supported. Nevilledog Jan 2022 #1
One thing I've learned from the sorryantivaxxer site- viva la Jan 2022 #5
I have asked several online whether they are opposed to gun ownership SCantiGOP Jan 2022 #7
I will have to write that down so I can use it later. Thanks! scanti flying_wahini Jan 2022 #14
Can you share any of them with us? smirkymonkey Jan 2022 #23
PSSST,,,,I've seen a couple gun nutz here, tho. Wonder what their 'god' is?.... 634-5789 Jan 2022 #24
I think many of them Mr.Bill Jan 2022 #46
Psychopaths there's too many of them I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2022 #50
But because they're "Christian", viva la Jan 2022 #51
Between that site and the Herman Cain Awardss site, definitely a pattern Siwsan Jan 2022 #8
Or in some (good) outcomes their god gets the credit harumph Jan 2022 #9
generally what they do barbtries Jan 2022 #15
It shows how ignorant they are. phylny Jan 2022 #27
Was it Glenn Beck? Baitball Blogger Jan 2022 #2
Last time I read anything about Beck and his infection . . . peggysue2 Jan 2022 #11
Yeah, it's weird that we haven't heard from him since. Baitball Blogger Jan 2022 #12
He'll be talking about it with Herman Cain soon. calguy Jan 2022 #3
And I'm supposed to be concerned about them dying . . . JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #4
Hope no one pokes a hole in his vent. nt DURHAM D Jan 2022 #6
Have fun. dalton99a Jan 2022 #10
Buh-bye...... LakeArenal Jan 2022 #13
Please DU Fam, schadenfreude is not a good look. SKKY Jan 2022 #16
+1 Hekate Jan 2022 #17
He's also a plague spreader Siwsan Jan 2022 #18
No sympathy for unvaccinated covidiots in this camp. roamer65 Jan 2022 #19
Why? They don't give a rat's ass about me and others mercuryblues Jan 2022 #25
I know, there's actually a thread on the front page right now calling out Laura Ingraham for BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #26
I agree. Caliman73 Jan 2022 #35
And that's my point. I see them as victims who have been preyed upon... SKKY Jan 2022 #45
When people invest emotionally, it is often very difficult to change their minds. Caliman73 Jan 2022 #49
Say hello to Herman for us. Hucky ducky! Vinca Jan 2022 #20
Maybe he wanted to be on a vent to lose that last 10 pounds JanMichael Jan 2022 #21
LMAO! LymphocyteLover Jan 2022 #29
I support your decision too..(snark) N/T scardycat Jan 2022 #22
UNREAL LymphocyteLover Jan 2022 #28
lol ok Demovictory9 Jan 2022 #30
Sure, someone about to be put on a vent is posting. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #31
People are posting videos of themselves, not long before they are vented Siwsan Jan 2022 #32
I've been in the hospital before surgery. You don't have your phone when they're prepping you. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #33
I have no idea how long before he was vented that he posted it. That's not the point Siwsan Jan 2022 #34
Believe what you want. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #36
Well, looking at the sequence of his posts, that's what's happened Siwsan Jan 2022 #37
I don't think YOU are making stuff up. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #38
Sorry to have caused you angst Siwsan Jan 2022 #39
Not at all. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #40
I'm one of the lucky ones, I guess. Only ever had one inpatient surgery, when I was 4. Siwsan Jan 2022 #41
Mmm. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #42
I'd send you links to the sites, but that seems a bit pointless Siwsan Jan 2022 #44
I'm done with this. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #47
Ok. I hope you have a restful evening Siwsan Jan 2022 #48
Adis happy trails idiot! Emile Jan 2022 #43

viva la

(3,300 posts)
5. One thing I've learned from the sorryantivaxxer site-
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 01:46 PM
Jan 2022

Actually two things:

1. Antivaxxers (active on social media at least) are far more likely to be weird-evangelical, by which I mean with extreme and non-conventional religious beliefs that they see as "Christian" (like fervent belief in Trump and also hatred of immigrants)

2. No matter what happens, they praise their god and never blame him.

So this guy will no doubt go into nothingness absolutely believing it's heaven.

It's almost comical, how they "assemble their prayer warriors" to urge God to heal this patient, and then when God fails or refuses or doesn't notice, and the guy dies in agony, they piously say, "God granted him the ultimate healing!"

Oh, and "God must have needed another angle."

(That's how they often spell 'angel'.)

God can literally do no wrong as far as they're concerned. I never see anyone ever questioning their faith in this arbitrary and/or cruel and/or useless god.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
7. I have asked several online whether they are opposed to gun ownership
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 01:52 PM
Jan 2022

The answer is always No, so I ask them why they think God will protect them from the virus, but they need a gun to protect them from other threats.
Get some interesting but bizarre answers.

Mr.Bill

(24,294 posts)
46. I think many of them
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:55 PM
Jan 2022

have a sincere desire to kill someone and want to be equipped to do it if they can do it legally. George Zimmerman and Kyle Rittenhouse are examples of this. They both killed unarmed people that they could have walked away from. They carried their guns because they wanted to kill someone.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,470 posts)
50. Psychopaths there's too many of them
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:14 PM
Jan 2022

They can look normal until the bodies start stinking.

A lot of sociopaths are waiting with bated breath for tfg
And the right wing sociopath autocrats who ignore the law give them permission to murder without consequences.

viva la

(3,300 posts)
51. But because they're "Christian",
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 07:05 PM
Jan 2022

they have to pretend that they're doing God's will when they kill.
It's sick, but we've seen it before (Spanish conquistadors come to mind).

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
8. Between that site and the Herman Cain Awardss site, definitely a pattern
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 01:53 PM
Jan 2022

Sorryantivaxxers seems to have slowed down in their postings but the Herman Cain site is roaring away - I follow it on Facebook.

These people seem to think they can 'command' a virus to leave a body. Judas Freaking PRIEST they are deluded. The so called prayer warriors might be a psychological benefit but they don't impact the actual disease process.

I disagree with the people who go on to troll the social media sites of these antivaxxers, but admit I'd love to ask them how they feel that their prayers never seem to be answered in the affirmative.

harumph

(1,900 posts)
9. Or in some (good) outcomes their god gets the credit
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 01:54 PM
Jan 2022

and in bad outcomes they may blame their devil.

It's a fungible religion. They've got an answer for everything - and in cases

where they can't come up with anything, the solemnly say "...because it's a broken world."

barbtries

(28,795 posts)
15. generally what they do
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 03:39 PM
Jan 2022

is beg for prayers until the person dies, then they post hallelujah because gawd called so and so home and the suffering is over. they pivot from fervently wanting to live (or wanting their loved one to live) to celebrating the same person's death. I call it a pivot. and you know "gawd don't make mistakes"

phylny

(8,380 posts)
27. It shows how ignorant they are.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:04 PM
Jan 2022

Ángels, according to the Bible, are not dead people but separate beings.

Baitball Blogger

(46,715 posts)
2. Was it Glenn Beck?
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 01:39 PM
Jan 2022

He's been silent these last three days. You would think we would be hearing from him if he was doing better.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
11. Last time I read anything about Beck and his infection . . .
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 01:57 PM
Jan 2022

he wrote that Covid was in his lungs and that he was taking hydrodroxy and other 'therapeutics'.

Good luck with that!

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
4. And I'm supposed to be concerned about them dying . . .
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 01:43 PM
Jan 2022

When they aren't?

Not sorry -we have a member at DU who has been told that potential surgery for Ovarian Cancer is not critical - because of all of these asswipes taking up space in hospitals.

I will zip lip / sit on hands - as anything else I write will be cruel.

SKKY

(11,810 posts)
16. Please DU Fam, schadenfreude is not a good look.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 03:42 PM
Jan 2022

This is sad. Someone loved this guy, and he obviously loved others. There is nothing to be celebrated.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
18. He's also a plague spreader
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 04:17 PM
Jan 2022

And his family is equally irresponsible. As someone who lost a good friend and almost lost a brother to Covid, my sympathy well is pretty dry.

Not to mention my recent Omicron scare, despite being ultra careful when I venture out.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
19. No sympathy for unvaccinated covidiots in this camp.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 04:36 PM
Jan 2022

Too bad he’s wasting an ICU bed.

There are other vaccinated people who need the bed more than him.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
25. Why? They don't give a rat's ass about me and others
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 06:14 PM
Jan 2022

who need medical care. They are too busy exercising their right to spread covid. A disease that kills.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216258835

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
26. I know, there's actually a thread on the front page right now calling out Laura Ingraham for
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jan 2022

applauding Covid.

I don’t get this, at all.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
35. I agree.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:22 PM
Jan 2022

I think that it is normal to express anger at the selfishness of people not getting vaccinated and spreading misinformation, but celebrating the suffering is not a good thing. I completely understand the emotion. We are all tired of this pandemic, we may all know of people who have died or have been severely affected. We may have had it ourselves and are struggling with the effects. We naturally want to lash out at people who defiantly continue to spread the virus and misinformation. I agree however, that most of those people who are hospitalized are also victims but are too blind to see that.

SKKY

(11,810 posts)
45. And that's my point. I see them as victims who have been preyed upon...
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:43 PM
Jan 2022

...to believe and propagate a horrible, horrible lie. I have an aunt who is the same way. She got COVID, nearly died, but then swore had it not been for TFG promoting Hydroxychloriquin, she wouldn't be alive. The problem with that is she was never given Hydroxychloriquin. It's sad to me.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
49. When people invest emotionally, it is often very difficult to change their minds.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 08:21 PM
Jan 2022

The best con artists, operate emotionally. You can't really "hook" someone rationally. You can convince them, but then what you said has to be accurate and the predictions need to pan out. When you hook someone emotionally, they basically give themselves over to you.

I have relatives who are the same way, and they accuse me or "your side" of being the ones who are brainwashed.

Truly sad.

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
21. Maybe he wanted to be on a vent to lose that last 10 pounds
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 04:44 PM
Jan 2022

I've heard the last 10 or the hardest the last five have been hardest for me.

Cocaine and speed would probably be safer. Good luck dipshit!!

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
32. People are posting videos of themselves, not long before they are vented
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:14 PM
Jan 2022

And if he didn't post it, whoever did post it on his account is about a vile as one can get. IMHO, of course.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
33. I've been in the hospital before surgery. You don't have your phone when they're prepping you.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:18 PM
Jan 2022

It’s just not something you’d do even if you had your phone.

By the time you’re being put on a ventilator, you’d be essentially at death’s door. Why don’t people think critically about this kind of thing?

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
34. I have no idea how long before he was vented that he posted it. That's not the point
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:21 PM
Jan 2022

He was sick enough to be admitted to the hospital and was being treated for Covid when he posted it. He is now on a vent. One would think just being HOSITALIZED and having to be on oxygen (which he was) would be enough to perhaps convince someone they should have been vented.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
36. Believe what you want.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:23 PM
Jan 2022

I cannot even imagine being so sick to be in intensive care, yet still searching for memes on the internet.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
37. Well, looking at the sequence of his posts, that's what's happened
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:26 PM
Jan 2022

People are posting a lot from the unit. I don't get it and it's not something I would do or understand, but I'm really not making stuff up.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
38. I don't think YOU are making stuff up.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:27 PM
Jan 2022

But someone is.

I’m tired of all this. People are going to believe what they want. Have at it.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
40. Not at all.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:32 PM
Jan 2022

I’m glad you’ve never had experience in intensive care in a hospital.

Be glad of that.

I’ve had that experience. All the best.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
41. I'm one of the lucky ones, I guess. Only ever had one inpatient surgery, when I was 4.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:38 PM
Jan 2022

And only 2 outpatient procedures - foot and eye. But, seriously, there are a number of self posted videos, out there, of people in the Covid unit, describing what they are going through. It's scary. (I guess I consider the Covid unit to be an ICU unit.) And people posting updates until they no longer can.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
47. I'm done with this.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:59 PM
Jan 2022

Trust me. I don’t care what some random sites say. I don’t believe everything I see on the internet. Ymmv.

But believe me, if you’re in intensive care, you are not posting. If you’re even conscious, you’re hoping to stay alive. You’re not making political statements.

Good lord. I give up.

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