Maddow: Pence met with Parliamentarian about the fake Trump elector documents

[Nevilledog]

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Mike Pence apparently knew enough about the fake Trump elector documents to have had a meeting with the Senate parliamentarian ahead of adjusting his announcement of the counting of the 2020 electoral votes.


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8:37 PM · Jan 17, 2022

[essaynnc]

1. Perhaps I didn't listen closely enough...

Do we know that he added the language to officially count the good votes or the fake votes?

[Nevilledog]

2. To count only the good votes.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

3. The fact that people were planning to do this was in the news prior to 1/6

And it was in the news when they actually submitted them.

I don't know why people are acting surprised now about this whole fake elector slate thing

Pence inquiring as to how to properly handle them is not all that surprising, nor necessarily nefarious.

[Nevilledog]

4. To me it's the conspiracy/coordination

This involves the White House.

[SoonerPride]

5. Do you honestly think anything will come of it though?

I do not.

If you do think prosecutions will stem from this I would be interested to know why you think that.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

7. The peons that signed their names might end up in some trouble maybe

But not IQ45, no matter if he'd sent them all 10K checks and there was a paper trail.

Diaper Don is never held accountable.

[Nevilledog]

8. I absolutely think the electors will be charged.

They violated state & fed laws.

How serious the charges depends on the jurisdiction.



If they aren't charged, we'll regret it.

[Dan]

19. Federal charges will be uniform.

[Nevilledog]

20. I suspect that would be true.

Doesn't mean the states involved don't also have an interest in punishing these frauds.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

6. Okay, but this particular piece doesn't really show coordination

Not saying there was NOT, there probably was in fact.

And hopefully we learn all about it in some upcoming public hearings.

[Nevilledog]

10. This report didn't address it, but Maddow has been covering the conspiracy/coordination efforts

[onenote]

16. The White House's role in the fake certifications also was well known before January 5

Stephen Miller talked about it in December.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2020/12/14/on-fox-news-stephen-miller-says-an-alternate-set-of-electors-will-certify-trump-as-winner/?sh=3cc9f67f711a

The Trump campaign discussed it in a legal filing submitted in December.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo_ZxT7XUAIXtZp?format=png&name=medium

[Nevilledog]

17. To me that's different from coordinating it.

We didn't have the Eastman memos then.

[2naSalit]

11. +1

What we are getting now is confirmation that what we suspected was actually true.

[monkeyman1]

9. attempt to fraud the U.S. government & signed it !! jail time ! open & shut !

[Cha]

12. Rt TY!

[Karadeniz]

13. Nowadays, an authority of a red state can't be relied upon to reflect the people's will.

[Mr.Bill]

14. The fact that he had to ask anyone

about whether or not he should count illegal electors shows what an idiot he is.

[Nevilledog]

15. Total CYA move.

He knew the answer.

[KS Toronado]

18. Or maybe he asked the Parliamentarian

How do we word this to insure I don't count the illegal electors & cover my ass from IQ4.5's wrath?
What Rachel was basically saying last night.

[FakeNoose]

21. Yes I think you're onto something

Pence knew it had to be airtight, otherwise the fake documents were going to get introduced on January 6th. The whole idea was to throw the Electoral College process into disarray, so that they couldn't actually vote that day.

Pence blindsided them though because he knew what they had planned. Well, Chump told him what they were doing because he wanted Pence to play along with the scheme.

[KS Toronado]

22. Pence didn't want to see Fascism take over this country

He could see it coming round the corner after being the V.P. for Der orange Fuhrer and wanted to keep clean.
Now if it had been Evangelicals attempting to overthrow our Government, he'd been in 1000%.
Good thing FailedCoupGuy is anti-Christian.