I'm pretty pragmatic, but those far centrists

[bigtree]

...are too far center for me.

Link to tweet

[ibegurpard]

1. Sinema's filibuster speech the other day was actually really good

Unfortunately the Republican Party in her head is not the Republican Party of the here and now and reality.
48 other Democratic senators recognize that but she and Manchin are going to let the fascists that used to be the Republicans they fantasize about take a buzzsaw to our electoral system.

[Micronova]

10. Maverick Senator

She's a step in the correct direction. Crossing the aisle and building relationships can help begin to sway others to worthy causes.

[MoonRiver]

14. No!

Repukes can't be persuaded to do anything but ruthlessly attempting to enhance their power. WTP be damned.

[ibegurpard]

16. Keep dreaming

[Wounded Bear]

19. Enjoy your stay...

[lagomorph777]

22. WTF? Building relationships with, and supporting traitors to democracy...

...is unacceptable, evil behavior.

[Micronova]

30. It is what it is

There's a reason they say politics is dirty business. Idealists are often marginalized. This is the system we must work within unfortunately.

[Celerity]

33. Sinema & Machin are the marginalised ones, out of 273 Dems in Congress, plus Biden and Harris, they

stand ALONE in their blocking stances.

This is the system we must work within unfortunately.

YES. but ONLY because of those two wreckers/obstructionists.

You attempts to spin are a fail.

[gopiscrap]

27. welcome to DU

[tenderfoot]

28. Name one worthy cause

[SheltieLover]

31. Welcome to DU

[Celerity]

32. bollocks, any more steps in your 'correct direction' & she will turn Rethug & flip the Senate to Red

[MrsCoffee]

17. Really good only in that it reenergized efforts to primary her.

[ibegurpard]

20. I'm serious

It WAS good. It was just based in a fantasy that no longer has any relation to our current reality. She's a fool.
And I wish she was up for reelection NOW instead of having to wait 2 more years to primary her.

[lagomorph777]

23. Basing the speech on a fantasy makes it a stupid speech, not a good one!

[BlueJac]

2. I've almost had it with the entire system!

Voting Rights is the basis of a Democracy, how can people vote against that? Pathetic is the word for the two phoney Democrats!

[aeromanKC]

3. Those far centrists are keeping the gavel away from McConnell

It's not perfect, but it's what we have and is what has made Biden have such a great year he's had. Ya, it could have been better, but it could have been a whole lot fucking worse!!


Every day Manchin caucus's with the D's is a good day. Not perfect, but good.

[Emile]

4. Those far moderate centrists sabotaged President Biden and our right to vote!

The lesson here is to stop voting for far moderate centrists if their goal is to destroy the Democratic party!

[aeromanKC]

5. Yep, that sucks.

But just think how it would have been with 2 fucking R's in the Senate from WV like it really should be (Trump +40 state) Now THAT would really suck!! We dodged a bullet on that one. WHEW!!

And BTW: THANKS Georgia from keeping us from that really sucks thing!! We dodged a huge F'n bullet with that one!! And yes, because of those "Far Centrists" and those 2 new D Senator's from GA, Biden had a pretty good year.

AND NO, that's not the lesson here. The F'n lesson is that we take D's in our Caucus where ever we can get them and be thankful for them AND elect D's from BLUE states such as in WI, PA, and even NC and ME. Just 2 of those and we are not here talking but would have our Democracy in tact with the Voting Act and BBB.

Now we have a chance to get those 52+ in November, just hopefully we can keep the 50 we have now going into the election. (IE no defections from those said "far centrists" to the R party)

[Emile]

6. If what you say is true it all depends on our right to vote! And we know the cons with the

help of two far moderate centrists dems are making sure our votes no longer counts!

[The Wizard]

7. Why are the fringe outliers

called the moderate center? When did protecting the right to vote become a radical position?

[Beastly Boy]

8. They are fringe outliers only within the universe of the Democratic Party.

When you consider the Senate as a whole, they fall smack in the center of it.

[ibegurpard]

21. Only because Republicans have mostly gone full fascist

[Beastly Boy]

25. This is what makes some Republicans fringe outliers, and Manchin/Simema centrists.

It's the totality of the entire Congress that determines their place on the left/right scale of America's legislative branch.

[aeromanKC]

9. It isn't and those who voted against will go down in history as traitors to Democracy.

AND traitors to the American experiment.

Germany came back after the 1930's and so to will America. Just probably not in my lifetime. Yep, that sucks.

[themaguffin]

11. Centrist isn't the word. Their vote isn't on political merit. They are whores.

[Emile]

12. That's what they call themselves, I take their word for it.

[themaguffin]

13. Of course they say that. They are not going to call themselves whores

[Emile]

15. Can they be both?

[themaguffin]

18. Yes, but their actions demonstrate that they indeed have supported filibuster changes. So their

official claims now are bullshit.

[temporary311]

24. If I call myself

the prince of Monaco, that doesn't make it so, and their self description is far more fanciful.

[Emile]

26. Okay, if they are not moderate centrists what are they?

[inthewind21]

29. Hacks

Who became senators to get rich and could care less about anything but. See Sinema worth BEFORE being a senator then a very short while after. And old Joes coal fortune.

[Celerity]

35. Manchin calls himself a moderate conservative

No clue what Sinema self-labels as, but CNN picked one for her 9 days ago, lol