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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAccording to Mother Jones, two influential DEM money streams have told Kyrsten to fuck off.
Democratic Power Brokers Are Abandoning Kyrsten Sinema
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The powerful pro-choice Democratic group EMILYs List, one of Sinemas top financial backers, announced on Tuesday that it would no longer support the senator in future elections if she continues to block the voting legislation.
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Hours after EMILYs List released its statement, reproductive rights group NARAL issued a similar announcement, saying that it wouldnt endorse any U.S. Senator who doesnt support changing the Senate rules to pass voting rights legislation.
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More at the link above
3catwoman3
(24,023 posts)her constituents to fuck off, so this seems only fair.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,705 posts)WillUSAF
(91 posts)ificandream
(9,381 posts)calimary
(81,383 posts)Who's primarying her?
She disappointed me tremendously. I don't want to hear all the speechifying about how much she agrees that voting rights are essential. WHY THE HELL DIDN"T SHE VOTE THAT WAY when she had the chance?
You and your contrarian, double-talking pal Joe Manchin, are gonna go down in history for a really bad reason, Kyrsten. History won't blink.
lark
(23,135 posts)She is wrong and will pay for her perfidy, as she should, by getting kicked out of office.
gab13by13
(21,377 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,816 posts)Yandex
(273 posts)KS Toronado
(17,284 posts)wryter2000
(46,074 posts)This happened several days ago.
spooky3
(34,462 posts)privately.
onecaliberal
(32,878 posts)Hekate
(90,755 posts)Rebl2
(13,535 posts)she cares. Shes likely getting more money from republicons.
Gore1FL
(21,134 posts)They don't hold her in high esteem. She might get crumbs from them, but I expect they will put up an anti-Sinema candidate if she isn't primaried out.
Raven123
(4,858 posts)You really have to be out of touch not to appreciate the importance of the issue at hand
pwb
(11,281 posts)believe in Government of her Person, not Government of the People.
bluestarone
(17,002 posts)Sinema (in my mind) would be the person to SWITCH to a RETHUG! We need to be a little careful on our timing here i think. I just DO NOT want MCturtle to gain control.
Stinky The Clown
(67,816 posts)I do NOT think Manchin will switch.
I DO think she would. And she would know no matter what "we" do. She is al about herself.
bluestarone
(17,002 posts)Hope she DON'T for now. (but like you say, it would NOT surprise me)
Retrograde
(10,142 posts)and IMHO her tantrums won't have as much effect: the rest of the GOP is in lock-step with McConnell, so there will no longer be any tie votes (50 obedient GOP senators + Sinema vs 49 Dems) so she won't be able to claim as much attention for being a PITA, I mean, maverick.
in2herbs
(2,947 posts)course for the country is her mantra. However, to what end? It is unlikely she'll get the AZ D nomination for senator and there aren't enough Rs in AZ that would vote for a cross-over Dem. What she may end up doing (if she doesn't run for president) is split the D vote guaranteeing an R win.
atreides1
(16,084 posts)Currently her approval rating among Arizona Democrats is 8%...
MustLoveBeagles
(11,628 posts)wackadoo wabbit
(1,167 posts)Has any politician ever had a 0% approval rating?
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)JT45242
(2,282 posts)The handshakes for the two last night told it all.
Absolutely nothing passes that McTurtle doesn't want. He may not control the committees but...
1. Hawley and Cruz can stall virtually all nominations by Biden between them as directed by McConnell
2. Nothing goes past the filibuster since 2010 without the express, written consent of McTurtle -- it doesn't matter what is brought up. He can keep his 50 in line -- hell he would have to lose 9 before anything except reconciliation comes to a vote.
And in 4/8/12 years whenever the Rethugs have all three branches again the filibuster will be completely eliminated until after an election that they lose (if that is even possible with gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the over representation of empty cornfields in the senate and electoral college) it will be brought back as they leave office lamenting that it was wrong of them to change the rules.
Make no mistake -- this vote tells you that the large corporate interests and Moscow Mitch control everything that passes in the Senate.
bluestarone
(17,002 posts)It could be a hell of a lot worse! WE do not need that at this time!
Irish_Dem
(47,189 posts)Total control.
Zeitghost
(3,865 posts)n/t
Irish_Dem
(47,189 posts)He doesn't care about passing GOP bills.
McConnell keeps his eye on the ball.
DFW
(54,420 posts)If McTurtle becomes Majority Leader again, things get a LOT worse.
Irish_Dem
(47,189 posts)I am counting Manchin and Sinema as part of that power.
DFW
(54,420 posts)But he can't block Biden's nominations for judges and ambassadors from coming to a vote, and just about all of those get confirmed right now. The majority leader can put a stop to that. It doesn't make for splashy headlines, but it's really a BIG deal.
Irish_Dem
(47,189 posts)And he is winning the war because a great deal of damage is being done to Biden and the Dem party right now by Sinema, Manchin and the media.
DFW
(54,420 posts)McTurtle is losing a LOT of battles with every judge Biden gets confirmed. But those confirmations never get reported. The job market improvement, etc. gets ignored. On the other hand, every time someone pays two cents more for a gallon of gas somewhere, it gets reported more widely than Neil Armstrong walking on the moon. That is power McTurtle only wishes he had. This is heading to W.R. Hearst proportions.
Irish_Dem
(47,189 posts)It is quite persuasive in shaping public opinion.
I don't think Turtle is sweating the judges. He has the Supreme Ct.
And a lot of Federal judges. And the defacto senate.
He wants all three branches of government.
The rest is neither here nor there for him I think.
orangecrush
(19,586 posts)BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)FakeNoose
(32,680 posts)#1 Would any of us be surprised?
#2 Would the Repukes be any more likely to re-elect her as a Repuke?
I say NO to both of those questions.
bluestarone
(17,002 posts)for next three years. THAT would eat my lunch!
FakeNoose
(32,680 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)is out of politics altogether. I think she already has a nice, well paying, GQP lobbying job all lined up.
More time for shopping at Forever 21 and Claire's, and fewer pesky Democrats to deal with.
Politics clearly aren't her road to fame and fortune. She's used everyone on her way up to where she is now, but she's burned her bridges along the way. There's nowhere else for her to go in politics, so the private sector is her only hope, but other than being a lobbyist I can't see the private sector beating down a path to her door.
Piasladic
(1,160 posts)I doubt she even wants to run (figuratively) again. Too much shopping and exercise to be done!
Captain Zero
(6,820 posts)which is true since she is all about herself.
And which we have discovered as well.
The end result of her ego trip is she gets primaried in either party.
This undercurrent talk of her running for president, yeah right, which party will she do that in?
LetsGoBiden
(58 posts)This is exactly what Ive been saying for the past couple of days if you think they dont hold her in esteem and help her with billionaires I think youre mistaken the crazies in Arizona would hail her as some new age Joan of arc if she switched parties on top of what shes already done and if she switches parties before the primary we wont even get a chance to primary her out we are on the razors edge we have to play our cards very close to the chest and for the love of God get the microphone out of Manchins face The media is on purposely trying to destroy Biden this is the most backstabbing Ive seen in my entire life Im only 38 but its pretty messed up
Cha
(297,446 posts)a pit?
spooky3
(34,462 posts)sector. So she just doesnt care about support for her as a Senator.
DownriverDem
(6,230 posts)she will have repub money. I abhor her, Manchin & repubs. So much at stake and here we are. Sanders said he will make sure Sinema and Manchin have primary competition.
Stinky The Clown
(67,816 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,705 posts)kimbutgar
(21,172 posts)I predict it will happen soon so she can hand the leadership over to McConnell. She is McConnells new best friend.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)If she crosses the isle then she will be just one of 51 Republican senators. But if she stays a Democrat she will retain a lot of power as one of two Democrats who can hold the president's legislative agenda hostage.
Irish_Dem
(47,189 posts)totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)sources such as right wing donors or big corporate interests to compensate for this. Or maybe she is planning on snagging a high paying gig at Fox News. I bet she is their darling right now.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)She is competely bought and sold. And giddy about it. I don't think she'd bat an eye if every single one of her more liberal orgs stopped their campaign donations. She gets more than enough from right wing led corporations. Her only principle is getting richer. If its under a patriarchal theocracy where every cause she ever claimed to stand up for in regards to social rights are annihilated? Fine. As long as she can live in luxury the rest of her life. Gilead will never go after the wealthiest queers in their gated communities anyways. Or that's what she's, quite literally, banking on.
Botany
(70,539 posts)n/t
UTUSN
(70,720 posts)WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)Money is pouring into her from Rethugs. We have to be careful with both her and Manchin, and make sure that in November we pick up enough seats in the Senate to make them both irrelevant. We only need two. If either of those two throws a hissy fit, and they're both capable of it, they'll cross the aisle and hand the control of the Senate to McConnell, who will immediately blow up the filibuster, with their blessings. I mean, the bitch was even wearing a red dress yesterday, and was glowing when the rethugs alll lined up to shake her hand and thank her.
Wouldn't you just love to see the ultimate "mean girl" get her ass handed to her? I want to see her whine when her self-appointed importance is flushed.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)jcgoldie
(11,635 posts)Maybe its a more lucrative gig.
cstanleytech
(26,306 posts)If so then I kind of doubt she cares especially if she is banking on getting financial support from Republican donors.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)then a pretty normal Democrat. And now.....whatever she is.
cstanleytech
(26,306 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,750 posts)ones religion, but it's being used politically.
Irish_Dem
(47,189 posts)Skittles
(153,170 posts)I'm sure she's getting plenty of funding from the people who have bought her.
myohmy2
(3,165 posts)...a rich puke will chip in...
...she is showing promise...
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Mr. Evil
(2,853 posts)paleotn
(17,937 posts)She's not up for reelection for a while, has "bigger plans" (snark!), and is really a closet Republican to begin with.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Told the Dems to go Foff between the curtsy thumbs down vote on the min wage increase last year and in a very loud red dress yesterday as she did her part with Manchin to torpedo voting rights then accepting the accolades of the GOP while still on the floor on camera even there should be little doubt left about where she stands when not in front of an elevator
Irish_Dem
(47,189 posts)For those who are not yet convinced the red dress was a neon sign you cannot miss.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)Just think how much and how many concession Biden made to Manchin only to have Manchin thumb his nose at voting rights. We need to do a better job of letting voters know just who and how they were helped thru the 2021 pandemic. Go on Pres. Biden brag about it!
Irish_Dem
(47,189 posts)Like she knows there is a big reward waiting for her.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)childfreebychoice
(476 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,676 posts)Moebym
(989 posts)Anything she is told to do, she does the opposite out of spite.
XanaDUer2
(10,699 posts)And she dresses like and "Australian's Nightmare". Jim Jordan is another inappropriately-dressed member.
turbinetree
(24,709 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Always has been! Dump her.
Moebym
(989 posts)She's not too concerned.
relayerbob
(6,545 posts)If you look at her history, it's pretty clear she's been a flake for a very long time. Never a Democrat, just another opportunist.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)We have seen more than enough of this embarrassing stooge. AZ needs to pick a decent and sound candidate to upset her in 2024. Remember...the gQp will be supporting her next time around.
I've seen enough of this traitorous stooge and just hope we don't have her to deal with after her one term.
orangecrush
(19,586 posts)Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
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whathehell
(29,069 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)support for reproductive rights for NARAL, for the most part anti-abortion.
whathehell
(29,069 posts)Emily's List, i.e. progressive gender neutral groups.
IronLionZion
(45,474 posts)so she's definitely good on money
live love laugh
(13,123 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)So, she probably isn't worried.