If the Democrats ran ads comparing Republicans to NAZIS - it would work.

[everyonematters]

On Sept 7 1964 President Lyndon Johnson ran the daisy commercial with the little girl pulling pedals of daisies and then suddenly a nuclear blast ensues. Johnson won the Presidential election of 1964 in one of the biggest landslides in our history. It worked because of the words and actions of Barry Goldwater who had suggested that nuclear weapons be used in Vietnam and was against reduction talks with the Soviets.

Imagine a split screen with Trump on one side and Hitler on the other, Trump making his good people on both sides in Charlottesville statement and Hitler making some racist statement on the other. You have the Reichstag fire on one side and the attack on the Capitol on the other.

Biden and the Democrats need to take off the gloves. The Republican Party is being controlled by an unstable racist sociopath with no conscience. Sound familiar?

[Effete Snob]

1. Depends on what you mean by "work"

In large swaths of rural Pennsylvania it would improve turnout for Republicans among Nazis, but I'm going to guess that's not the effect you intend.

As for the details, virtually nobody knows what the Reichstag Fire was or would recognize an image of it, and I don't know where you intend to get a clip of "Hitler making a racist comment" in English or, for that matter, how many overtly racist statements he even made in public speeches (and, again, aside from the uncomfortably large audience which would agree with it).

[Shermann]

2. It's a Reductio ad Hitlerum fallacy nt

[Kid Berwyn]

19. Yet the facts show the GOP today acts NAZI.

The Nazification of the Republican Party

By Loretta J. Ross
Counterpunch, Jan. 20, 2021

After World War II, the Nazis who helped Hitler rise to power and murder millions of people, including at least 6 million Jews, were put on trial to send a warning to the world. Not all of them faced a judicial process, but enough were not protected by their high status, official offices, or claims of “innocence” and “patriotism.” Power through violence was the only language they spoke—not justice, not freedom—and they were held accountable. These criminals faced a tribunal at Nürnberg (Nuremberg) so momentous that the disgraced word “Nazi” is forever attached to those who participated in and enabled their horrific crimes.

After the war, Germany banned Nazi flags and neo-Nazis. In fact, the only way that Nazi paraphernalia got into Germany was through smuggling from other countries such as the United States, like from Nazi propagandist Gerhard Lauck in Nebraska, the man called the “Farm Belt Führer” who served four years in a German prison for distributing banned pro-Nazi materials throughout Europe.

I know this because I teach a course on White Supremacy at Smith College that focuses on anti-Semitism, anti-Black racism, and the many intersecting components of white supremacist ideology. After more than 30 years of organizing and teaching about fascism as a Black feminist activist and academic, I know the destructive influence of these noxious ideas, and I teach young people how to interpret and resist them.

Global contempt for the word “Nazi” is a lesson for us today in the United States after the attempted criminal coup at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. Anyone identified as sympathetic, supportive, or financing these seditious acts that attempted to deny the peaceful transfer of power in our country should be treated with the same public condemnation that the Nazis received after World War II. This includes Nazified people in Congress, in the media, in universities, in regular jobs, and throughout society because fascism is not the fevered dream of one delusional man. Trump is a white supremacist; that he is also a deranged narcissist is really incidental.

Continues...

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/20/the-nazification-of-the-republican-party/

PS: If the hobnailed boot fits, GOP needs to wear it.

[Shermann]

20. All of that can be true...

...and at the same time, it is true that Hitler was a unique historical figure. Nobody is just like Hitler.

The Reductio ad Hitlerum is a bit of a cliche and really doesn't resonate due to its overuse, regardless of how much merit the comparison has. That's why there is an informal fallacy named for it.

[Kid Berwyn]

21. Like Trump ordering the Pentagon to seize voting machines.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/21/read-the-never-issued-trump-order-that-would-have-seized-voting-machines-527572

That wasn’t an informal fallacy. That was NAZI.

[Shermann]

22. Inaccurate and derogatory suitcase terms are a tool of the right

I prefer to dismantle flimsy arguments one by one. Carry on with this if you wish, I'm out.

[Kid Berwyn]

27. Well, it matters to me if the USA becomes a fascist country.

That’s exactly what the GOP is doing today with the Big Lie and all the rest of their sordid treasons.

Here’s history on how the NAZIS came to America and befriended Old Money:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1547206&mesg_id=1547206

As for one wing of the one percent…

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=133897&mesg_id=135696

[Klaralven]

3. Making 2022 elections all about race is a loser for Democrats

[Gore1FL]

4. I submit it would be better to compare them to current and historical points of U.S. infamy.

It's the same idea, but with the KKK, the oath keepers, the proud boys, Timothy McVeigh and all of the right wing terrorists. We have a lot to work with, and it might be easier to connect.

[KS Toronado]

5. If there would be an effective ad making Rs look like Fascists/Nazis

Groups like The Lincoln Project will be coming out with one.

[onenote]

6. I guarantee it would not work.

The backlash would be immense, including from a number of reliably Democratic-leaning Jewish organizations and donors.

[everyonematters]

8. In the 2020 election there were a substantial number of people who voted for Biden for

President and Republican for congress. I don't think most of them expected that Trump would continue to control the Party. They need to be reminded that the danger is still there.

[Tommymac]

7. Fuck no. Horrible idea. Why touch the third rail?

Let those comparisons stay on Social Media.

[MineralMan]

9. Not Nazis. Fascists.

Nazism is a very specific thing, limited to one nation under one leader for one period of time. Fascism is less limited.

[brooklynite]

10. The "Daisy" commercial had no impact on the 1964 election...

It was shown only once and generated pundit buzz, but there's no data that shows it shifted any votes.

Add to which Goldwater as President was more significant an outcome that your local Congressperson.

And Virginia showed us that Trump doesn't resonate in a race that he's not in.

We win or lose on COVID, economics, and education.

[UnderThisLaw]

11. Certain statements

are intended to get typical reactions from specific people

[Buckeyeblue]

12. It would be more effective to say the Republicans want to take away social security

And that they want to give your health insurance provider more leeway in determining what services they will cover.

We need to tell people that Republicans want to allow states to ban all forms abortion and birth control.

We need to tell people that Republicans want to take away all workers rights and repeal all workplace safety rules.

[jcmaine72]

13. No. That would be a surefire way to lose in 2022.

You run on your accomplishments, not name-calling. If name-calling is all you have left, you've accomplished nothing.

[PortTack]

14. Bill Kristol...yes the republican thinks the Dems would win by pointing out who the gqp are

Fascists, racists, against democracy, against women’s rights etc versus trying to run on or accomplishments. I think he’s right. Ppl get fired up when they are upset...so yes, let’s fire them up

[uponit7771]

17. This is false, you have to define your opponent before they define themselves and the GQP is leaving

... the door wide open for us.

[jcmaine72]

24. Sorry to bust your Sun Tzu balloon, but that strategy is a loser

Rather than waste time defining the enemy, define yourself by your own accomplishments. Nothing beats producing tangible results, and certainly nothing succeeds like success. Improving the economy always works.

Slithering down into the muck and scum of ad hominem smear plays right into the reTHugs playbook. That's what they want us to do because they have accomplished nothing. Slide down to their level and we will lose....big.

[uponit7771]

26. That goes against Anchor Bias, I don't know where you're getting your info from.

[bottomofthehill]

15. The real problem is simple to define but difficult to solve.

It was one thing when the Republican Party would pander to the retard vote to get elected and pass a pro business agenda, but now they are actually electing the retards (Boebert, Cawthorn, Green, Mullen and the like). Their lack of understanding of most things real like science, medicine, math, and no grasp of history and law are truly a threat to American society and Democracy itself.

[LENNY0229]

16. DON'T USE NAZIS, BUT DO LOUDLY LABEL THEM AS RADICIAL RADICAL RADICAL! And do this:

Going with Nazis and Hitler is too far, BUT definitely BRAND THEM as being "RADICAL" and "ANTI DEMOCRACY" with hard hitting ads
showing all their voter suppression and with clips of the CRAZIES being CRAZY like Greene, Boebert, Etc.

[uponit7771]

18. K&R, EXACTLY !!! Define the GQP before they define themselves !!!

[Progressive Jones]

23. I'd replace the nazi imagery with video clips of proud boys, et al, marching

in their Loser Suits (khakis up to their armpits; white polo shirts tucked in).
Hitler's nazis are generations in the past. Modern day American Nazis are mostly too cowardly to wear their swastikas in public. Showing current fascist-types, marching in the street, right here and right now, would have more impact.

[orangecrush]

25. No