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babylonsister

(171,096 posts)
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 12:26 PM Jan 2022

The Rude Pundit: Democrats Need to Do What They Will Never Do: Burn the GOP Down

https://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2022/01/democrats-need-to-do-what-they-will.html


The Rude Pundit
Proudly lowering the level of political discourse
1/25/2022
Democrats Need to Do What They Will Never Do: Burn the GOP Down


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If you'll remember, for a good bit of 2020, we were told (and believed) that the election was going to be a Blue Wave, where Democrats overwhelmed Republicans. And, not without reason, candidates, including Joe Biden, started making big promises that were based on a larger majority in the House and a comfortable majority of three or four seats in the Senate. As the wave seemed more likely, the promises got bigger, including eliminating student loan debt, trillions in expanded domestic programs, and more. Had the wave materialized, much of that would have been a no-brainer. The problem, though, was not anticipating that it might not happen and lowering the promise heat. I know hindsight and all that, but Build Back Better, student loan forgiveness (which still could happen), ending the filibuster, and even more infrastructure spending all failed because they were doomed from the start. Despite the hope and optimism of idiots like me, it wasn't going to happen with a margin so thin in each house of Congress that if you farted through it, only dogs would be able to hear it.

And while we can and should blame Democrats (especially a liar like Joe Manchin), the focus should be on blaming the fucking Republicans. Enough with the worthless "I'm bipartisan and I can work across the aisle" horseshit. Motherfuckers tried it and, except for a brief moment in the Senate on infrastructure, that hand was stabbed every time it reached out. So fuck 'em.


As the midterm elections approach, Democrats need to do, as a party, what they never do. They need to call Republicans the fucking enemy. Not the loyal opposition with whom they can compromise. The fucking enemy. They're trying to destroy democracy. They are the reason the goddamn pandemic is still going as hard as it is. They are why you don't have paid family leave or a higher minimum wage. The message should be simple. Not "We can work together," but "They refuse to do shit you want. They're fucking crazy. If you're not crazy, don't vote for those cockmites."

It probably won't happen, but if Biden's being real about finally giving up on finding the bipartisan unicorn, then maybe it's a strategy with a chance. Milquetoast appeals to goodness and hope won't work. Fear and rage? That's just the world we live in, and the only way to change it is to use it.

By the way, perhaps the real tell with Gingrich happened before he started talking about jailing Democrats and (to his deranged mind) RINOs. He compared contemporary Democrats to other groups in history. Sure, he went with the expected, the Russian revolutionaries of 1917 because communism, of course. But he also said they are "people who are as fanatic[al] as the revolutionaries in the French Revolution." Now, you can say what you want about the Reign of Terror or the rise of Napoleon. In the long view of history, though, the French Revolution eventually brought about the end of monarchy, reduced the power of the Catholic Church, and expanded rights to ordinary citizens. So if Gingrich is saying the French Revolution was wrong, well, fuck, I guess that explains a lot.
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The Rude Pundit: Democrats Need to Do What They Will Never Do: Burn the GOP Down (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2022 OP
God damnit Democrats! CrackityJones75 Jan 2022 #1
It is our fault if we don't loudly confront their insanity. Nevilledog Jan 2022 #2
Who isn't doing that? CrackityJones75 Jan 2022 #3
I don't think they're doing it ENOUGH, and calling it what it is...it's fascism. Nevilledog Jan 2022 #4
I listen to and watch liberal news sources all day long CrackityJones75 Jan 2022 #9
Just to clarify that by "Steph Miller" you mean Stephanie and not that fking Nazi Stephen Miller OMGWTF Jan 2022 #22
Yep! CrackityJones75 Jan 2022 #33
there is one thing that we have really fucked up - collectively ignored and continue to ignore RW certainot Jan 2022 #32
The further right they go CrackityJones75 Jan 2022 #34
Sigh ... KPN Jan 2022 #12
If I never hear "our good friends across the aisle" again, it'll be too soon. Buns_of_Fire Jan 2022 #5
Couldn't Agree More RobinA Jan 2022 #11
Have to flip that language. "America's enemies across the aisle" is the correct term. lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #19
That was Joe Biden, and he's been reaching across the aisle for almost 40 years FakeNoose Jan 2022 #27
Perhaps: our delusional, fascist, lying opponents across the aisle?? Magoo48 Jan 2022 #35
This is messed up to say...but we need to adopt the Tea Party's tactics pecosbob Jan 2022 #6
Well, at least we're the majority of people and voters -- if we actually all vote and don't let KPN Jan 2022 #13
You seem to have a fatal assumption unstated... Moostache Jan 2022 #24
I totally agree gopiscrap Jan 2022 #7
Agree 100%. Unfortunately, here's the problem. There are way too many bullwinkle428 Jan 2022 #8
Like Mineral Man mentioned yesterday Mr. Ected Jan 2022 #10
BRAVO! homegirl Jan 2022 #15
Throw Doocy Bombs at them bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #14
Goddamn right!!!! Burn 'em down! n/t PatrickforB Jan 2022 #16
And preach unity while you light the match .nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #17
I am TOTALLY onboard with this. calimary Jan 2022 #18
time too make republican's irrelevant!!! TFG said he was going to take'm down with him !! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #30
Me Too. Magoo48 Jan 2022 #36
When they go low, they go on to gain seats in the House and Senate. Orrex Jan 2022 #20
When the Rs go low (which is always), kick those fkers in the teeth. Hard! OMGWTF Jan 2022 #23
Now that's a strategy that I can get behind! Orrex Jan 2022 #26
Dems need to do, as a party, what they never do. They need to call Republicans the fucking enemy. Botany Jan 2022 #21
Call them fascist. nt Hotler Jan 2022 #25
When dealing with rabid dogs foaming at the mouth... dlk Jan 2022 #28
I'm a 60 year old pissed off Democrat! Lunabell Jan 2022 #29
72 here & a V.N. vet ! another--- sucker & loser !! pos trump & Moscow Mitch !! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #31
Lookit the time NRA got money for GOP from RUSSIA. Kid Berwyn Jan 2022 #37
 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
1. God damnit Democrats!
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jan 2022

God damnit Democrats…. It is your fault the GOP is so fucked up and exists.


/sarcasm.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
3. Who isn't doing that?
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jan 2022

When did they not do that?


On almost every issue we have people raising alarms about it. The problem is NOT Democrats. It is the amplification of that message. There is a severe issue with our media being controlled by corporate interests and then we wonder why Democrats can’t get their message out when it is not in the interests of the greedy corporations that own those media outlets….

So we go back to whipping ourselves even more. Lather, rinse, repeat. Same shit for decades. And decades. And decades….

Nevilledog

(51,209 posts)
4. I don't think they're doing it ENOUGH, and calling it what it is...it's fascism.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 12:51 PM
Jan 2022

It needs to be repeated ad nauseum. It sounds awful, but fear motivates, and we need to scare the fuck outta people pointing out the malevolence of the right.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
9. I listen to and watch liberal news sources all day long
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 01:28 PM
Jan 2022

I listen to and watch liberal news sources all day long. There are PLENTY of voices that are pushing back all day long.

Sure we can always do more. But honestly aren’t we tired of the self flagellation?

Admittedly I do like the Rude Pundit. A lot. Especially when he is o Steph Miller’s program. But this piece irks me because it is tiresome. Many of us do all that we can and being told repeatedly that the country being in the precipice of disaster, or that the GOP is so terrible, or any number of other this is because we don’t do enough….

We have tried to drag the horse to the water. We have shown it where the water is, rubbed its nose in it. Kicked it, beat it, pleaded with it, tried to reason with it…..

The damn thing will not drink! What have we done wrong?!?!??

OMGWTF

(3,978 posts)
22. Just to clarify that by "Steph Miller" you mean Stephanie and not that fking Nazi Stephen Miller
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jan 2022

Stephanie Miller's show is 6am to 9am PT. You can watch it on www.freespeech.org. She has the best guests. I especially like to watch on Tuesday's just after the 7:30 am break when my favorite pundit, Charlie Pierce (Esquire magazine's political writer) is on. It's very informative and entertaining.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
32. there is one thing that we have really fucked up - collectively ignored and continue to ignore RW
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 03:21 PM
Jan 2022

our 'leadership' and analysts read and watch and have no clue about rwr radio. they're studying fish without water so we let manchin and sinema get pushed around/enabled by made-to-order corporate constituencies that might as well have flown out of limbaugh's ass and since it is a 95% monopoly should not be considered legit.

we don't even poll for it.

it is the only unique advantage they have and we let without complaint a few hundred racist liars on 1500 unchallenged coordinated radio stations kick our ass. then the chuck todds and carvilles complain about us being too far left and 'woke' - echoing the buzz from those FREE think tank megaphones, that unlike fox, can be state and locally coordinated.

this will end badly for the GOP when americans finally figure it out and use boycotts, protests, and AI analysis to force the ad industry to force stations to change programming and destroy the monopoly.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
5. If I never hear "our good friends across the aisle" again, it'll be too soon.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 12:55 PM
Jan 2022

Start with baby steps. It's probably not realistic to hear "those lying shitweasel republicans" in a floor speech yet, but I can do without the fake comity with people who would just as soon see people like me (and them) dead.

RobinA

(9,896 posts)
11. Couldn't Agree More
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 01:34 PM
Jan 2022

Obama tried it for two terms and it didn't work. The discourse has only gotten worse thanks to TFG. As we say in my biz, insanity is sticking food in the refrigerator and expecting a hot meal. In this case, over and over and over again.

FakeNoose

(32,787 posts)
27. That was Joe Biden, and he's been reaching across the aisle for almost 40 years
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 02:55 PM
Jan 2022

It is what is, and that old-style politicking clearly hasn't worked. Is it our fault? Well no, but it's our problem. We have to figure this out fast or it will be the end of us. The Repukes are making us fix them because they can't fix anything themselves.

pecosbob

(7,545 posts)
6. This is messed up to say...but we need to adopt the Tea Party's tactics
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 01:04 PM
Jan 2022

Stop acknowledging that the GOP has any right to participate in our national politics. Taking the high road has left us out in the boondocks politically.

KPN

(15,662 posts)
13. Well, at least we're the majority of people and voters -- if we actually all vote and don't let
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 01:39 PM
Jan 2022

the enemy suppress our votes or steal another election. Accountability will bring out the vote ... lack of accountability will depress it.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
24. You seem to have a fatal assumption unstated...
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 02:49 PM
Jan 2022

The vote only matters if the district, issue or office is competitively drawn. Gerrymandering and redistricting have continued to make a mockery of our representative republic.

Gerrymandered seats in Congress have codified gridlock in the Senate and House; and turned the center and compromise into fatal words in the separate parties. Where once a Venn Diagram may have had 40-45 seats overlap in the House and 5-7 in the Senate where that overlap in philosophy might engender actual action or compromise, now that is nearly extinct by design and only getting worse. Congressmen no longer care about their constituents or the electorate of the opposition party - they care about donors, access to cash and primary opponents futher to the extreme than themselves.

Voting alone is not enough.
Turnout alone is not enough.
Excitement for a candidate or policy alone is not enough.

The system itself, from a foundational level, is rotted and corrupted.
This helps those in power or serving as party bosses and power brokers and kills everything else.

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
8. Agree 100%. Unfortunately, here's the problem. There are way too many
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 01:26 PM
Jan 2022

consultants making bank, telling Democratic candidates to emphasize the idea of "reaching across the aisle". I've seen it happen way too many times over the years to think it's just an anomaly. I'm not holding out lots of hope that our candidates will focus on what should be the primary issue this year - the threat to democracy.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
10. Like Mineral Man mentioned yesterday
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jan 2022

Since we're going to be blocked from doing what we were elected to do - implement Democratic strategies and policies - we might as well circle the wagons and concentrate on the most important function our government can be engaged in at this moment in history: exposing the fascists, trying the fascists, punishing the fascists, and shedding light on the fascists 24/7.

We'll never be able to progress as a nation as long as these saboteurs are in charge and able to spin their propaganda without rebuttal. The public needs to be educated and our best resource is a news cycle that begins, continues and ends with the Democrats' attack on authoritarian rule. It's not political - it's existential.

homegirl

(1,434 posts)
15. BRAVO!
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jan 2022

It is time to recognize the extreme danger of the current situation and take loud and well spread informational action.

Call it like it is!

Magoo48

(4,721 posts)
36. Me Too.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 04:06 PM
Jan 2022

It’s been said before. But. We must be creative, use our imaginations.

We must use humor, art, music, symbolism, and other mediums which they have trouble understanding…. well, you know And, we must leave our creations everywhere.

We must really incorporate our youth advantage, making them full partners along with other groups where we have them outnumbered.

Whether alone or in groups and always peacefully, while remembering, it’s better to apologize if ya get something a little wrong than to be shot down before getting off the ground because permission was requested.

Orrex

(63,225 posts)
20. When they go low, they go on to gain seats in the House and Senate.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 02:39 PM
Jan 2022

When we go high, they go on to gain seats in the House and Senate.

Democrats are trying to hold Republikkkans accountable through the mechanisms of The System, while Republikkkans are doing everything in their considerable power to destroy The System. See the problem?


Botany

(70,593 posts)
21. Dems need to do, as a party, what they never do. They need to call Republicans the fucking enemy.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 02:44 PM
Jan 2022

The party of pro covid
the party of pro putin
the party of trump

rinse, lather, and repeat

Lunabell

(6,113 posts)
29. I'm a 60 year old pissed off Democrat!
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 03:16 PM
Jan 2022

We are in a crisis and Democrats are playing by the same old sane rules. We are in a damned war!! If we lose it we will never have any freedom at all.

Kid Berwyn

(14,979 posts)
37. Lookit the time NRA got money for GOP from RUSSIA.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 04:43 PM
Jan 2022

That alone should’ve sunk the NRA and the GOP. But, noooo, thanks to America’s corrupted news media, too few heard the story and even fewer understood why it matters.

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