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Zorro

(15,749 posts)
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:20 PM Jan 2022

Madison Cawthorn Lawyer Cites Confederate Amnesty Act To Defend Rep's Job

A lawyer for Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-NC) cited an 1872 congressional action granting amnesty to Confederate soldiers to defend his own client’s eligibility for office.

The argument from Cawthorn lawyer James Bopp Jr. came in response to a legal effort to have Cawthorn declared ineligible for office because he allegedly “encouraged, and upon reasonable suspicion helped aid, the insurrection” on Jan. 6.

The legal challenge, from a group of North Carolina voters backed by the organization Free Speech For People, alleges that Cawthorn violated the third section of the 14th Amendment, which states, “No Person shall be a […] Representative in Congress […] who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress […] to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same.”

On the phone with TPM Wednesday, Bopp said “there are substantial constitutional defenses, which include the fact that Congress passed the 1872 Amnesty Act, which removed all persons whatsoever from the disability under Section 3 as a result of engaging in an insurrection or rebellion.”

Though the Amnesty Act applied at the time to Confederate soldiers who fought in the Civil War, nothing in the law prevented it from being applied in the future, Bopp argued.

“There’s nothing in the Amnesty Act that says it’s only applicable to the Civil War, and it was very broad in its terms,” he said.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/madison-cawthorn-lawyer-cites-confederate-amnesty-act-to-defend-reps-job-capitol-insurrection

Now that's some fancy lawyerin' there...

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Madison Cawthorn Lawyer Cites Confederate Amnesty Act To Defend Rep's Job (Original Post) Zorro Jan 2022 OP
That's diggin' deep! dchill Jan 2022 #1
... highplainsdem Jan 2022 #2
Lol! Yeah I'm sure congressional intent was to grant amnesty to any future insurrectionists unblock Jan 2022 #3
+ struggle4progress Jan 2022 #13
Irony here inthewind21 Jan 2022 #20
He's right. James48 Jan 2022 #4
+ struggle4progress Jan 2022 #14
I had no idea that Cawthorn served in the CSA's military. NCjack Jan 2022 #5
Maybe he was in ROTC? keithbvadu2 Jan 2022 #7
Past life experience. n/t intheflow Jan 2022 #19
If that's their only defense, Mr.Bill Jan 2022 #6
Doesn't that strategy inherently imply guilt? nt Gore1FL Jan 2022 #8
It inthewind21 Jan 2022 #21
And Cawthorn's white hood comes out. n/t area51 Jan 2022 #9
Sounds a lot like an admission tirebiter Jan 2022 #10
So they're admitting to insurrection, but.. Bobstandard Jan 2022 #11
I looked up his lawyer, and he's a big deal and no dipshit MyMission Jan 2022 #12
One Nit To Pick ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #25
I see your point MyMission Jan 2022 #26
That lawyer charges oligarch rates, I'm sure. Wonder who's footing Maddy's bill? (Nt) FreepFryer Jan 2022 #15
This is surreal blue-wave Jan 2022 #16
It seems to me the statute was unconstitutional on its face when passed. TomSlick Jan 2022 #17
Hope he gets paid in greybacks lame54 Jan 2022 #18
What kind of lawyer takes a case where they have to argue their client, the traitor, is Vinca Jan 2022 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Prof. Toru Tanaka Jan 2022 #23
Maybe Because He Actually Wants To Get Paid! ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #24
to bad there wasn't a big ol' black bear behind him ? might have been lunch?? monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #27
 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
20. Irony here
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 06:24 PM
Jan 2022

By using that law he's saying Yes, his client participated in an insurrection but in 1872 congress gave him amnesty.

James48

(4,440 posts)
4. He's right.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:27 PM
Jan 2022

Except for one thing- that law would be unconstitutional, because you can’t pass a law which is contrary to a Constitutional (14th) amendment.

Bobstandard

(1,328 posts)
11. So they're admitting to insurrection, but..
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 12:26 AM
Jan 2022

It looks like Cawthorn's legal team is saying, "yeah, our client engaged in insurrection, but that's permissible. They're an old law that says so. (If you look at it the right way. Wink, wink).

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
12. I looked up his lawyer, and he's a big deal and no dipshit
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 12:50 AM
Jan 2022

He does fancy lawyering, for sure! For all the creepy right wing groups, pushing their agendas.
He's a conservative loyalist and activist, and his wikipedia page mentioned his notable work was for the case citizens united vs FEC. He's got gravitas.

Bopp is known for his staunch social conservatism,[6][7] and his past and present clients are "a who's who of social conservatism," including the Traditional Values Coalition, the Home School Legal Defense Association, Concerned Women for America, and the Federation for American Immigration Reform.[7] He has been the general counsel for National Right to Life since 1978, the James Madison Center for Free Speech since 1997, and as the special counsel for Focus on the Family since 2004.[8] Bop was the editor of Restoring the Right to Life: The Human Life Amendment, a book promoting the Human Life Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to overturn Roe v. Wade and ban abortion.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bopp

I find it interesting he has such a connected lawyer, not surprised.
I'm trying to follow this because cawthorn was elected in my district, but I refuse to call him my representative.

Thanks for posting this.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
26. I see your point
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 08:33 PM
Jan 2022

I was thinking in terms of comparing him to lawyers I didn't want to name, like Rudy or Linwood, or other dipshit lawyers in tfg's orbit. This Bopp guy is something else. Evil, sinister, smart, not a clown or a sycophant. That's what I meant to convey. Lots in tfg's orbit think they're a big deal and they aren't, but they are dipshits. That's very true. This guy probably wouldn't work for tfg.

blue-wave

(4,364 posts)
16. This is surreal
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jan 2022

As others have mentioned, it is an admission of "engaging in an insurrection or rebellion.” So their defense is to say: Yeah, I did it now let me go.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
17. It seems to me the statute was unconstitutional on its face when passed.
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jan 2022

A statute cannot remove disqualifications from office imposed by the Constitution.

Vinca

(50,308 posts)
22. What kind of lawyer takes a case where they have to argue their client, the traitor, is
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jan 2022

entitled to run for office again? And why hasn't Trump already hired the guy??

Response to Vinca (Reply #22)

ProfessorGAC

(65,195 posts)
24. Maybe Because He Actually Wants To Get Paid!
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 07:44 PM
Jan 2022

If he took your suggestion about TFG, he'd be working for free.

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