General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMadison Cawthorn Lawyer Cites Confederate Amnesty Act To Defend Rep's Job
A lawyer for Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-NC) cited an 1872 congressional action granting amnesty to Confederate soldiers to defend his own clients eligibility for office.
The argument from Cawthorn lawyer James Bopp Jr. came in response to a legal effort to have Cawthorn declared ineligible for office because he allegedly encouraged, and upon reasonable suspicion helped aid, the insurrection on Jan. 6.
The legal challenge, from a group of North Carolina voters backed by the organization Free Speech For People, alleges that Cawthorn violated the third section of the 14th Amendment, which states, No Person shall be a [
] Representative in Congress [
] who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress [
] to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same.
On the phone with TPM Wednesday, Bopp said there are substantial constitutional defenses, which include the fact that Congress passed the 1872 Amnesty Act, which removed all persons whatsoever from the disability under Section 3 as a result of engaging in an insurrection or rebellion.
Though the Amnesty Act applied at the time to Confederate soldiers who fought in the Civil War, nothing in the law prevented it from being applied in the future, Bopp argued.
Theres nothing in the Amnesty Act that says its only applicable to the Civil War, and it was very broad in its terms, he said.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/madison-cawthorn-lawyer-cites-confederate-amnesty-act-to-defend-reps-job-capitol-insurrection
Now that's some fancy lawyerin' there...
dchill
(38,541 posts)highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)unblock
(52,329 posts)struggle4progress
(118,352 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)By using that law he's saying Yes, his client participated in an insurrection but in 1872 congress gave him amnesty.
James48
(4,440 posts)Except for one thing- that law would be unconstitutional, because you cant pass a law which is contrary to a Constitutional (14th) amendment.
struggle4progress
(118,352 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,923 posts)Even that would be a stretch.
intheflow
(28,504 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,330 posts)Cawthorne is in big trouble.
Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)absolutely implies it.
area51
(11,922 posts)tirebiter
(2,539 posts)Bobstandard
(1,328 posts)It looks like Cawthorn's legal team is saying, "yeah, our client engaged in insurrection, but that's permissible. They're an old law that says so. (If you look at it the right way. Wink, wink).
MyMission
(1,850 posts)He does fancy lawyering, for sure! For all the creepy right wing groups, pushing their agendas.
He's a conservative loyalist and activist, and his wikipedia page mentioned his notable work was for the case citizens united vs FEC. He's got gravitas.
Bopp is known for his staunch social conservatism,[6][7] and his past and present clients are "a who's who of social conservatism," including the Traditional Values Coalition, the Home School Legal Defense Association, Concerned Women for America, and the Federation for American Immigration Reform.[7] He has been the general counsel for National Right to Life since 1978, the James Madison Center for Free Speech since 1997, and as the special counsel for Focus on the Family since 2004.[8] Bop was the editor of Restoring the Right to Life: The Human Life Amendment, a book promoting the Human Life Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to overturn Roe v. Wade and ban abortion.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bopp
I find it interesting he has such a connected lawyer, not surprised.
I'm trying to follow this because cawthorn was elected in my district, but I refuse to call him my representative.
Thanks for posting this.
ProfessorGAC
(65,195 posts)He can be a big deal, but still be a dipshit.
MyMission
(1,850 posts)I was thinking in terms of comparing him to lawyers I didn't want to name, like Rudy or Linwood, or other dipshit lawyers in tfg's orbit. This Bopp guy is something else. Evil, sinister, smart, not a clown or a sycophant. That's what I meant to convey. Lots in tfg's orbit think they're a big deal and they aren't, but they are dipshits. That's very true. This guy probably wouldn't work for tfg.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)blue-wave
(4,364 posts)As others have mentioned, it is an admission of "engaging in an insurrection or rebellion. So their defense is to say: Yeah, I did it now let me go.
TomSlick
(11,109 posts)A statute cannot remove disqualifications from office imposed by the Constitution.
lame54
(35,325 posts)Vinca
(50,308 posts)entitled to run for office again? And why hasn't Trump already hired the guy??
Response to Vinca (Reply #22)
Prof. Toru Tanaka This message was self-deleted by its author.
ProfessorGAC
(65,195 posts)If he took your suggestion about TFG, he'd be working for free.