Nina Turner is back...

[Archae]

Just doesn't give up, does she?

Nina Turner, A Progressive Star, Is Running For Congress Again

Nina Turner, a former Ohio state senator with a dedicated progressive following, is challenging Rep. Shontel Brown in Ohio’s Democratic primary in May, setting up a rematch of their closely watched showdown this past August.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-congressional-primary-rematch-shontel-brown_n_61f15913e4b04f9a12b73992

[justhanginon]

1. Just like a bad penny!

[2naSalit]

4. Only worse.

[Ocelot II]

2. "Progressive star"? In whose universe?

She's toxic.

[2naSalit]

6. Yeah...

That made me question the source.

[betsuni]

8. I'd forgotten her bragging about having a national profile and being "beloved" last year.

Nina is a national leader beloved by The People, the only thing stopping her is the mean old corrupt Democratic Establishment and their corporate masters! The universe Nina lives in is very dramatic and weird and angry about things that don't exist.

[DURHAM D]

3. .

[LoisB]

5. She comes across as a very angry person.

[DFW]

7. Will Katie Porter and Bernie Sanders endorse her again?

It's not an open race this time, and Katie Porter would have to endorse a challenger to someone who is now a fellow Democratic House member--a reliably liberal one at that. I don't think she would want to cause that kind of bad blood within the Democratic caucus, but I don't know her at all. Even Sanders would have explain why he would endorse someone running against a good, hard-working first term rust belt Democratic member of the House.

Now that she is not running for an open seat, but one held by a Democratic incumbent, Turner can't hide behind the Democrat-by-convenience label this time. Her motives--and her financing--should be scrutinized a little more closely this time. I suspect the origins will be found more in the far right than the far left.

Who wants a noisy, nasty, very public shootout within a Democratic Party primary? How about a bunch of Republicans who desperately want to distract from their own nut cases. They don't care who wins, as long as the fight causes the media to pay attention to it, and not to them. Madison Caw-who? No matter, look at those two Democrats in Ohio pulling each other's hair out! Except--it won't work this time. Brown is the incumbent now. The DCCC will have her back, and so will Emily's List.

[Hortensis]

13. They endorsed Turner though she publicly called for voting against Democrats

in 2016 and that fall worked with those trying to create a mass movement of Democrats abandoning the party. This, knowing that alternative was tRump for president and Republican control of congress and state governments.

She, of course, also promoted that campaign's Big Lie throughout the course of the primary elections that elections were being stolen by dozens of corrupt state Democratic parties. That was her job, as was promoting the attempt to illicitly take the nomination away from the candidate who won it by millions of Democratic votes. (Any of that sound familiar?)

And of course, she famously followed her own advice to vote against Democrats, thus helping to throw the nation to the Republicans and bring on the deluge.

Some things are too basic to misunderstand or accept, and far too serious to forget. Best to assume those who'd do it at all would do it again.

[DFW]

14. I expect nothing different from Turner

I DO expect something different from Porter and Sanders, however.

Last time, however misguided and wrong I felt Porter and Sanders to be, they were supporting a candidate in an open primary for an open seat.

THIS time, if they support Turner again, they will be, in effect, calling for the expulsion from Congress of a sitting Democratic colleague. Sanders may have nothing to lose by doing it (except a lot of respect), but Porter will have to look Rep. Brown in the eye on the House floor, and say "I want you out of here, and replaced by Nina Turner." There is nothing to stop her from doing that, of course, but if she does, beyond the respect she will lose, I suspect I will not be the only one to cease contributing to her campaigns.

[Hortensis]

18. :) When people show you what they are... I liked Porter,

too, seemingly very promising. But, oh well. I can't ignore election subversion, or acceptance of it in others. Not in either party or any faction.

And above all not now, when we need every person in power fully committed to protecting our democracy from attacks and undermining from various factions.

As for the suggested bar for her to clear, I agree it'd be a strong signal of something wrong if she did not, and definitely worth watching for. But meeting the most basic, standard rule of loyalty to Democratic colleagues probably isn't much of a test. At its most crass, it's a mutual protection pact between politicians who need it to remain in power, and there are serious repercussions to breaking that pact. Of course, for people committed to the principles of democracy, it signifies much more.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

10. Here we go again with Nina Turner and Brand New Congress.

Link to tweet

[iemanja]

11. Is Brand New Congress

just a twitter account?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

12. No, it is a group founded by the same people who founded Justice Democrats

Link to tweet

[LetMyPeopleVote]

15. So she's bringing the van back?

Link to tweet

[11 Bravo]

16. How can I miss her if she won't go the fuck away?

[amaico]

17. She could be Sinema's VP

In their new party.