California bill would require students' parents to detail gun ownership

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A newly proposed California bill would require parents of public and charter schools students to disclose whether any guns are kept at their homes as well as how they are stored. @edpettersson @CourthouseNews

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California bill would require students’ parents to detail gun ownership
The proposed bill seeks to address the fact that in the majority of school shootings the weapons comes from the student's home or from a friend or relative.
1:52 PM · Feb 2, 2022

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(CN) — A newly proposed California bill would require parents of public and charter schools students to disclose whether any guns are kept at their homes as well as how they are stored.

State Senator Anthony Portantino, a Democrat, introduced the bill that he said prioritizes student safety by increasing available information on gun access and safe at-home storage of firearms. The bill also would require schools to search a student's property on campus for firearms if there's a credible threat of violence.

“When in approximately 68% of school shootings the firearm was taken from the student’s home, friend, or relative, California needs to move the needle and take prudent public safety steps to address this problem," Portantino said in a statement Wednesday. "When we know that in 93% of those incidents the attack was planned in advance and in many instances threatening or concerning communications prior to the attack elicit concern from parents, friends, and educators, we must move from threat assessment to protective action without hesitation.”

The senator cited the school shooting last November in Oxford, Michigan, where a 15-year-old sophomore killed four students with a handgun his parents has bought him earlier that month, as an example of the often fatal consequences that occur when warning signs are ignored.

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[SYFROYH]

1. If I understand correctly, they are essentially asking parents to confirm they are following the law

Summary of Safe Storage Laws Regarding Children
You may be guilty of a misdemeanor or a felony if you keep a loaded firearm within any premises that are under your custody or control and a child under 18 years of age obtains and uses it, resulting in injury or death, or carries it to a public place, unless you stored the firearm in a locked container or locked the firearm with a locking device to temporarily keep it from functioning.

Safety and Storage Devices
If you decide to keep a firearm in your home you must consider the issue of how to store the firearm in a safe and secure manner. California recognizes the importance of safe storage by requiring that all firearms sold in California be accompanied by a DOJ-approved firearms safety device or proof that the purchaser owns a gun safe that meets regulatory standards established by the Department. The current list of DOJ-approved firearms safety devices and the gun safe standards can be viewed by visiting http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/fsdcertlist.

There are a variety of safety and storage devices currently available to the public in a wide range of prices. Some devices are locking mechanisms designed to keep the firearm from being loaded or fired, but don't prevent the firearm from being handled or stolen. There are also locking storage containers that hold the firearm out of sight. For maximum safety you should use both a firearm safety device and a locking storage container to store your unloaded firearm.

Two of the most common locking mechanisms are trigger locks and cable locks. Trigger locks are typically two-piece devices that fit around the trigger and trigger guard to prevent access to the trigger. One side has a post that fits into a hole in the other side. They are locked by a key or combination locking mechanism. Cable locks typically work by looping a strong steel cable through the action of the firearm to block the firearm's operation and prevent accidental firing. However, neither trigger locks nor cable locks are designed to prevent access to the firearm.

Smaller lock boxes and larger gun safes are two of the most common types of locking storage containers. One advantage of lock boxes and gun safes is that they are designed to completely prevent unintended handling and removal of a firearm. Lock boxes are generally constructed of sturdy, high-grade metal opened by either a key or combination lock. Gun safes are quite heavy, usually weighing at least 50 pounds. While gun safes are typically the most expensive firearm storage devices, they are generally more reliable and secure. Remember: Safety and storage devices are only as secure as the precautions you take to protect the key or combination to the lock.

[forthemiddle]

2. OMG I can see the commercials already

Is this for every student and household, or only the ones that are considered credible threats?
If it’s everyone then this is the perfect wedge issue the Republicans are looking for.
It combines the school thinking they are the only one that can protect the children, and the fear of law abiding gun owners.
Are they going to be asking little Johnny and Emily where their parents guns are stored?
Are they sending home questionnaires?
If you think school board meetings are contentious now, just wait.
In my opinion, this is going t far.
Having said that, I have no problem at all with them searching children they think are threats, but isn’t that done already? If it’s not, it should be.

[skylucy]

3. I agree with you, forthemiddle. No guns in my home, but I come from a family of hunters.

My dad kept his guns locked up in a very secure safe in a hidden storage place you couldn't even see unless you took apart some flooring. My parents also did not advertise that they owned guns. They did not believe in boasting about owning firearms or talking about it. My brother is a hunter and has the same philosophy. Schools sending home questionnaires to ask where firearms are stored? Nope. That is not going to fly.

I agree that schools should be able to search backpacks, lockers of students.

[ruet]

5. Cats Out of the Bag so You Should Expect Them Within the Week.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

7. Wouldn't this be a clear violation of the 4th Amendment? nt

[Sympthsical]

4. If she wants everyone not on the Coast to rebel, sure

People always forget that once you leave the cities, California may as well be Mississippi. This would be some shit.

Nationally, the Republicans would slap every Democrat running with "The government wants to use your children to spy on you."

The ads write themselves. And since gun control isn't exactly a winning issue in this country at present, we could kiss many elections goodbye.

What a horrible, horrible idea.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

6. Oh really?

How is this legal?
I don't see any court in the land upholding this law, it's a clear violation of the 4th Amendment requiring parents of students to report if they have guns or not in their homes and I don't see how this can be enforced.

Another gem handed to the repukes to hammer Dems on.

[Dial H For Hero]

8. And if a parent says "None of your business"...then what?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

9. Exactly!!!!

This is a clear violation of the 4th Amendment and I don't see any court in the land upholding such a law, and, as you have said, it would be widely ignored.

[NickB79]

10. Why did the East German Stasi suddenly come to mind?