Drumpf won't run in 2024. His dementia won't let him.

[BlueWavePsych]

I know that many people have diagnosed Trump as a psychopath, sociopath or narcissist. But frankly his dementia is the most visible and likely — specifically, his progressive Alzheimer’s. His father died of Alzheimer’s (yes, people do die of it as the brain deteriorates and results in major organ failure). And there is definitely a strong genetic component — especially when it’s an immediate relative.

In 2015, when he announced he was running, a number of people who knew him well commented that he didn’t seem as “with it” as he used to be. And this language had become much less sophisticated. During his term, there was clear evidence that it was getting progressively worse. Word finding issues, memory problems, repetitive phrases, and sometimes, incoherence. Frankly, I think the White House staff did their best to hide how bad it had gotten from the public. Now, that he is out of office, he seems to have much less protection.

His most recent rally in Texas seemed to leave his followers confused — even they couldn’t understand what the hell he was saying. He was more incoherent than usual.

It’s going to reach the point, where he is going be even more incoherent and really and truly babbling. Or even not able to communicate much at all or even dead. I think those who are seeing him up close are probably getting really nervous. They are fully aware of what happened to Ronald Reagan after he left office. They may try to keep him for appearing in public. But frankly, it’s not going to be very long before he is just incapable of even speaking in front of a group.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/2/3/2078408/-Trump-won-t-run-in-2024-His-dementia-won-t-let-him

[3Hotdogs]

1. From your keyboard to God's eyes.

[Beachnutt]

2. Is this going to be his way out ?

Will the doj and others let him slide because he has dementia ?

[sop]

6. Mob boss Vincent "The Chin" Gigante avoided prison by wandering the streets of NYC in a ratty

bathrobe and slippers, faking mental illness for years. Vinnie ended up in federal prison.

[Hortensis]

3. Fred died at 93 of late-onset Alz, which takes @10 years to kill. Donnie's 75.

AND, his chances of NOT inheriting Alzheimer's would be GOOD even if he inherited genes from BOTH parents, instead of just one.

Otoh, we KNOW he's had other mental disorder for decades.

That an entire nation can have watched this depraved creep intensively for years now and still be in denial that personality disorders are real is part of what's WRONG. We should be very informed about this by now, instead of astonishingly ignorant.

Astonishingly.

If only dementia would take him out by 2024, but there's no reason to assume it will.

[OMGWTF]

53. Cholesterol may be democracy's only hope.

[Septua]

4. "It's going to reach the point, where he is going be even more incoherent and...

..really and truly babbling. Or even not able to communicate much at all or even dead."

Hell, he's been incoherent and babbling since he showed up on the debate stage in 2016...

But, if he reaches the point of inability "to communicate at all," he may not run. But I wouldn't bet on that...if he can still think, stand and wants to run, he'll run. And 50 million people will vote for him.

[Pluvious]

39. Shock of shock RNC have already declared future presidential debates will not be happening nt.

[CentralMass]

5. Well in the meantime he us staging another run for the presidency.

[agingdem]

9. Dementia..maybe

demented…absolutely…and that’s why he’ll run again…

[Joinfortmill]

7. That would be a blessing for the world.

[demtenjeep]

8. and when he came down the escalater people said he was a joke and it would be nothing

the only way we are rid of him is if he dies

[bullwinkle428]

10. I'm old enough to recall that it didn't stop Ronald Reagan in 1984. There's no

question the assassination attempt absolutely accelerated the path of cognitive decline. They say Alzheimer's patients have "good days & bad days" early on, and my father was a perfect example. I think that explained that first debate in '84, where he seemed to be in a fog. He then had a much better day on that second debate, and he rode that momentum to the landslide win a couple of weeks later.

[Polybius]

52. One key difference:

Reagan was popular and funny. Trump is neither.

[Thomas Hurt]

11. and the worse he gets the more they say Joe is suffering from it as well.

Trump would do us all a favor if he just died in his sleep.

[niyad]

51. No. He should stroke out at one of his rallies, in plain sight of his cult.

[MLAA]

56. Then his running mate really would be JFK Jr!

And his horrible hordes will wait for the pair to show up somewhere in Texas

[lagomorph777]

58. I'll bet RFK Jr would do it.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

12. Assuming that TFG is not in jail or bankrupted before 2024

TFG has been declining for a while. The banks or the prosecutors are each more likely to take TFG down before 2024

[WarGamer]

16. He's added over a billion dollars to his net worth in the last 6 months via DWAC...

Still think DWAC is magically going to disappear?

[Ford_Prefect]

24. DWAC is a shell game and may come unglued following the SDNY and New York AG investigations.

[WarGamer]

61. It won't

It's run by an experienced SPAC runner...

Trump is nothing more than a majority shareholder, not a CEO...

It will finalize and the ticker will merge.

It's out of Trump's hands... it's all being run by Wall Street lawyers, accountants, investors and the SPAC runner and his team.

[Ford_Prefect]

62. As I read it there were serious questions raised about where the seed money came from, how

much subterfuge was involved in raising it, and just how so much was raised without revealing Trump's name. SEC type questions, maybe even SDNY questions. When the AG of New York signs off on any interest in it I'll believe, otherwise I have doubts. Yes, I have read about the public relations story that they hid Trump's involvement in it from potential investors and that they have lots of previous SPAC building experience.

According to Cohen Trump will NEVER do a straight business deal. He always bends things his way and uses whatever edges he can build into it. I don't pretend to know how this is a bent deal. I don't know how long it may take to show that an important part of it is. Experience in building a SPAC may only mean they weren't caught out the last time they bent the rules, which seems a common enough theme in Wall Street dealing on this level. When the SEC rules out Russian Oligarch money being somehow laundered here, when the US Treasury Dept. and New York State Revenue say they aren't concerned, then I'll listen.

As far as his Net Worth is concerned, recent paperwork reveals have shown how suspect those claims are. He sits atop a financial house of cards of epic proportions. What ever his participation in the "deal" may have been said to be, we have no basis to accept that it is conventionally sound or vetted.

[WarGamer]

66. None of that is true.

I'm a daily trader and follow this kind of news carefully.

There's precisely ONE contentious topic... did Trump discuss a SPAC with the SPAC runner BEFORE the SPAC was established?

If the SPAC runner solicited Trump before starting the SPAC, it's an SEC fine, a slap on the wrist for the SPAC runner.

But that accusation won't fly.

The SPAC runner actually had SEVERAL SPACS already up and running when he met with Trump. So there's literally no evidence that DWAC was created "for" Trump.

Just trust me on this...

Wall Street pros are running the show, Trump has no power and no way of changing ANYTHING with the SPAC.

He's the majority shareholder and the future pitch man for TMTG, nothing more.

Right now, DWAC has its own CEO and Board... and it ain't Trump.

[Ford_Prefect]

68. What happens to TMTG when Trump cannot act as front man due perhaps to incarceration?

What happens when the judge says he must surrender his investments in part payment for fraud?

How does TMGT get beyond that when the principle stockholder loses his day in court, over and over? Would they have a separation clause or some other technical exit should DJT lose his credibility as spokesmodel and figurehead? What happens to the other investors at that point? Who will the name the new entity after then, assuming a valid, functioning and legitimate media entity is built in the first place?

Who have they reported hiring to direct, populate and operate this entity? A pile of money can do many things. However it cannot run a media enterprise without capable and qualified people doing the work and making good the presumed contracts.

I was working in IT when the internet was the hot new investment area that no-one really understood. In some very real and tangible ways this project sounds like the kind of thing the money guys were flogging back then. Some people who thought they were serious investors got hosed badly when it turned out the prospectus was mostly hot air and jargon, and some of those people worked in the heart of Wall Street.

[WarGamer]

69. Let's look at this bit by bit.

Incarceration?

You haven't even got to criminal charges... then good luck convincing 6 Trumpist Jurors of guilt. Didn't think the Judge would allow 12 anti-Trumpers on the Jury, did ya?

DWAC right now is all about Truth Social, Trump's Twitter clone.

Like it or not... when the app launches, as soon as this month, it's likely to set records for Day One sign-ups.

This is about money. Wall Street investors who couldn't care less about Trump are investors. The shares were around $10, now they're $85. Fortunes have already been made, the market cap is over $3B now...

Trump is NOT running the show. He's the majority shareholder of a soon to be company with it's own CEO and Board. Add in the experienced Wall St. SPAC runners, bankers and lawyers...



To finish up... let's play unicorns and rainbow fantasy scenario...

IF Trump was charged with crimes, found guilty and actually sentenced to prison...

You think his credibility and popularity with the same people who would use Truth Social would go up or down?

Hmmmm?

[dwayneb]

13. I seriously doubt it

Trump has always been incoherent, that's part of his shtick. It's a pleasant dream, but I can't imagine Trump backing down just because of dementia. As someone else pointed out it can take a long time from the early onset to final stages. He's only 75, in this day and age he could have another 20 on the planet.

Better than even chance he will run in 2024 - I'd give it 75%. If he doesn't win outright, the Fascist scum in Congress will try to install him via coup. And then shit will really and truly hit the fan here in this country.

[dawn5651]

33. usually 10 years from diagnosis to death..although many don't last 10 years.

[Poiuyt]

42. Trump wasn't always incoherent

10-15 years ago, he could speak in lucid and articulate sentences. It wasn't until he ran for president that he started to lose it.

BTW, he was always a narcissistic conman, but at least he could speak.

[WarGamer]

14. He may or may not run but the article is silly.

I give him 50/50 odds of running, but 100% odds that he's ABLE to run.

If it looks like he'll LOSE, he won't run.

If polling is supportive of his run, he'll run.

[dwayneb]

35. But Trump believes he CAN'T lose

Any election he loses MUST be fraudulent, in his thinking. This was his plan in 2020, the Big Lie, and he will double down in 2024.

Except that the next time around his cronies in Congress and those who he has bought off in the States will be ready willing and ready to install him as autocrat.

[hamsterjill]

15. Well that didn't stop him in 2016.

He was already unfit.

[NightWatcher]

17. I see you and raise you a Ronald Reagan

[BadgerKid]

18. To run again is admission of having lost before.

Ego won’t allow that.

[tblue37]

19. As president he had a few episodes that sure looked like sundowning.

[BluesRunTheGame]

20. I don't think that his supporters could tell the difference.

As long as he’s breathing and can make noises they’ll continue to support him.

[Rhiannon12866]

21. +100. That's become obvious.

[Martin Eden]

22. Also, the bars of a prison cell wouldn't let him.

Earliest onset, please!

[L. Coyote]

23. Do they have dementia wards in federal prison?

[Ford_Prefect]

26. Not bloody likely. They may have special treatment arranged for those in lower security facilities.

Trump probably won't be in one of those. IMO He's too likely to escape, or arrange an "Epstien", or some of his rabid followers may try to liberate him from anything but a higher security institution.

I believe they still maintain institutional confinement for criminally insane individuals...A danger to themselves and the public is the phrase which comes to mind.

[Martin Eden]

28. If not, now is a good time to start

Of course, TFG would also qualify for Sociopath and Malignant Narcissist wards.

[Evolve Dammit]

25. One can only hope he explodes is some fashion. I don't care which, just make it so. n/t

[Traildogbob]

27. I would be pulling

For flesh eating bacteria. But that would take way too long and a whole lot of bacteria. Whatever takes him out, I hope it’s very painful, makes his appearance much more grotesque, with so many scabs on his head it hurts to wear the wig thing. Or the damn red hats. At least with his time off ow he is spending quality time with his and Melania's son. Like family value Christian’s require.

[dchill]

29. "...incapable of even speaking in front of a group."

I hope that doesn't stop him, though.

[maxsolomon]

30. Delusional. He wanted to declare before 1/20/20.

Everything he's done since he left the WH fits with another run.

His ego demands validation.

I'd imagine the only reason he hasn't declared is that the Party has asked him to wait until after the midterms.

[DeeDeeNY]

31. Person woman man camera TV

[dawn5651]

32. if he does have alzheimers eventually the ability to feed himself will be gone...we saw flashes of

his difficulty using his hands when he had to hold his glass with 2 hands like a small child will hold their cup .

[Kablooie]

34. Won't that just endear him even more to his base.

I mean it makes him even more like them.

[mkell33]

36. Let's face it.

They try to say Sleepy Joe...but really they are just trying to divert from saying Dementia Don. What could be more accurate?

[Nevilledog]

60. Always projection with those traitors.

[drray23]

37. Somehow I do not think his base would notice

He already is completely unhinged and was during running for reelection. He cannot string a sentence together. If you manage to listen to a few minutes of his rally rants, it sounds like a direct data dump of his brain with no filter whatsoever and no coherent thoughts. Just the same nonsense, often switching mid-sentence to another remark completely disconnected from the start of the sentence.

[C Moon]

38. Wasn't the same said about Reagan in his second term? I guess the GOP got their new "Reagan"

(nix that: I didn't read the 2nd box).

[IbogaProject]

40. Only if the R party has a limit to how demented they'll support

I'm not sure how far this can go, but I'd bet it will be further than we'd think is reasonable. As long as he can land some soundbites they aren't going to drop him. It will take an actual stroke debilitating him or actual death to turn to the GOP to supporting another hopeful.

[Kingofalldems]

41. Kick and rec for Trump's secret pals.

[Poiuyt]

43. I don't believe his dementia will hold him back from running

His ego is too big, and he desperately wants a chance to defeat Biden.

[ecstatic]

44. Didn't Reagan have obvious alzheimer's as well?

He was granted 2 terms. We're going to have to be proactive to keep him out. That means indictments and prison time. Wishing and hoping is not enough.

[Ahpook]

45. I don't see dementia at the moment with him

We are care takers for my mom that has dementia, and it seems VERY different from what I see that POS dealing with. I suppose all cases are different, though?

Anyway, what I see is a wretched human being that lies incessantly and is having trouble keeping all the bullshit straight. Fuck, man, he lies when he doesn't have a need for it. It's ingrained in him to be dishonest. He doesn't know how to be honest.

His core is being consumed from such a shit eating, petty, trashy life.

Fuck that piece of filth!

[homegirl]

46. It was obvious

that Reagan was displaying symptoms of Alzheimer's during the final debate of the second election. He rambled on and on about driving the beautiful Pacific Coast Highway for over two minutes. The moderator finally stopped him.

[Polybius]

50. The media ignored it

Instead they focused on his lighthearted "youth and inexperience" comeback non-stop.

[gab13by13]

47. I can't believe this thread, OMG,

I was just about to Google the symptoms of Alzheimers because I was going to do a thread asking if people thought that Trump had it.

I guess I wasn't the only one who wondered.

[WestMichRad]

48. Being a blithering idiot...

…didn’t stop him from being elected in 2016.

[Martin68]

49. You make some very relevant points about Trump's dementia, but your Looney Tunes graphic is

disrespectful of all those who sure dementia in old age. Both my parents suffered from dementia in their 90s. Not every person with dementia is a psychopathic millionaire with delusions of grandeur and mobster friends.

[Hekate]

54. Wishful thinking. As long as humanly possible, as long as someone can gain more power or...

… make a dirty buck off him, there will be a group surrounding him to prop him up in public.

Just as there has been ample evidence of his crimes, there has been ample evidence of his mental state — for years and years and years.

[Baitball Blogger]

55. Maybe this is the reason the GOP is afraid of debates.

To hide the fact that Trump has dementia, they are forcing all prospective Republican candidates from debating. That way Trump isn't single out.

[AnnetteChaffee]

57. I've been saying this all along

This is ALL just a grift. He (unbelievingly) convinced the GOP to pay for his legal fees. I would not doubt that there is some kind of a deal in there that he continues to do rallies so that he can continue to grift his sheep into donating, so he has to hint that he is running to keep them donating. Of course there is also the addiction to adulation, the need for manipulation and above all, the need to try to control anything he can while his world spins out of his control.

The walls are closing in - he is fighting battles from every side and the truth is being revealed. This has to be horrific for someone who has literally created an alternate reality that he not only lives in, but who he has convinced a good number of people, is real.
Can you only imagine how miserable a human must be if they have to create a completely separate reality to support the lies that are their life?

I look at his life and i look at what is happening to us as a spiritual species, and there are similarities. There is a "dark reality" and a "light reality". Is this a spiritual ascension where we are being given the chance to choose?

The world is becoming 50/50 - light and dark. I choose to live in the light. To do that, I must focus on the light so that it will shine out the darkness. We must all get ready to make that choice in order for the world and it's inhabitants to spiritually, and even physically evolve. The time is now and each voice matters. I don't care about gerrymandering, court stacking, whatever they have done - they have set it up and they are now ready to roll out their plan to pull us into their darkness. All we can do is support the light. Vote - take someone with you, volunteer, make calls, donate.

Each of us has a voice and each of us holds a candle for our future. I plan to light mine - will you light yours?

Namaste,
Annette

[Blue Owl]

59. Donny's got diarrhea in his head

[Scrivener7]

63. Wishful thinking. As long as he can drool and make noises, his followers will think he is their

savior.

Drooling and noises will not be a far cry from what made them think he was their savior in the first place.

[dwayneb]

67. Exactly!

In fact his cult may adore him even more. There is no bottom to this cesspool.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

64. His worshipers will say that his senseless, demented babbling is speaking in tongues.

An indisputable sign from God that he is a prophet, or messiah.

[Irish_Dem]

65. His followers don't seem to care about the cognitive slippage.

As long as he sticks with his message of hatred and racism they are fine with him.