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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCalifornia liberals seethe after Democratic legislature kills single-payer
PoliticoInstead of serving as a liberal model for national Democrats, Sacramento ended up this week in the same place as Washington: with a single-payer bill that galvanized the party's left flank but gained little traction as moderates balked and powerful opponents closed ranks.
The result has demoralized progressives and demonstrated the boundaries of their influence, even in a state like California, where Democrats control more than two-thirds of the Legislature.
The bills failure illustrates what an uphill battle we have ahead of us, said David Campos, a California Democratic Party official and single-payer advocate who is running for state Assembly. I think we need to figure out where we go from here as a progressive movement, he added.
Didnt work in Vermont. Didnt work in Colorado. Wasnt going to work in California.
XanaDUer2
(10,728 posts)Ever
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Doremus
(7,261 posts)How have we moved toward universal healthcare incrementally or otherwise in the last 150 years?
The ACA? Sure, there was some incrementalism there. Only one problem: the incrementalism went in the wrong direction. ACA started with a semi-robust public option but over the years has been whittled down to near extinction.
Of course it must be my flawed perception. Please enlighten me.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)...and 12 years of ACA in existence set a new baseline. Now we can work to add a public option, assuming Democrats can hold the House and expand the Senate. Sorry if your impatience can't wait.
questionseverything
(9,658 posts)Insurance companies
Many people cant afford the actual healthcare part
SalviaBlue
(2,918 posts)questionseverything
(9,658 posts)It has to be a national program, like medicare or the va
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)questionseverything
(9,658 posts)Why would single payer be the exception?
roody
(10,849 posts)This Californian knows who our legislators serve, and it is not the people.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)leftstreet
(36,112 posts)People melt down when I say this, but it seems obvious to me
It'll have private pay supplements just like Medicare, but it won't be means tested like Obamacare. Both parties will be fine with it
JonAndKatePlusABird
(314 posts)And well spend/waste our time addressing any and and all bad-faith arguments, because WeEd iZ a GatEWeIGH drUg and RUleZ R rULeS!!!!
underpants
(182,877 posts)Thy dont want it so its not going to happen. They might possibly make slightly less money plus it sets a precedent.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)from Kaiser here in CA than anyone else. Have never used them but they wont give up. They are relentless with several promotional mailings/month.
In It to Win It
(8,283 posts)way to go
Zeitghost
(3,868 posts)without ways to deficit spend or control immigration.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)itself to get very far any time soon. Might require tax increases, keeping copays to start, etc.
In any event, there are too many skeptics to get single payer without giving them a chance to try it through a Public Option. If its as good as we think, people will flock to it in 5-10 years.
Ron Green
(9,823 posts)We have enough investment schemes in this country; we need a health care system.