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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs rogue truckers threaten to blockade major cities with their rigs, I'm wondering if there is such
an offense as "willful endangerment of public health" or something similar.
These blockades will stop firemen, police, ambulances and moms-to-be on their way to the hospital.
FalloutShelter
(11,875 posts)There are plenty of folks here who remember that.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)The ropes didnt hold and the rig fell into a lake..
No big loss.
applegrove
(118,734 posts)right behind the Parliament buildings...... I'm just saying...you could dump the trucks into the river one by one, after making sure there are no people in them, to make an example of the truckers. Bet they clear the streets in an hour.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)2naSalit
(86,710 posts)If they put those wheel locks on the front and back rigs, they way they're lined up in most places, go through and arrest them all one area at a time, then confiscate their rigs and set parameters (fines) for retrieving them.
applegrove
(118,734 posts)2naSalit
(86,710 posts)But the idea of piling them up like a Jenga set is appealing.
applegrove
(118,734 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)Just haul the trucks up a few stories and drop them.
applegrove
(118,734 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,232 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)All it takes is a hammer, a screwdriver, and a driver
Beachnutt
(7,332 posts)lots of folks will lose paychecks and get behind on bills due to plant shutdowns.
When this happens the pitchforks come out and the so called truckers feel the wrath of the blue collar worker.
2naSalit
(86,710 posts)Oligarchs to stay out there so I'd imagine they get some kind of funds for paying their bills.
I have owned semis and it costs money to own them whether they sit or roll down the highway. The only way to keep them is to work them in such a way that you make money, otherwise, they're very costly.
Beachnutt
(7,332 posts)auto factories that are shutting down due to supply shortage
2naSalit
(86,710 posts)On that point I agree with you completely.
pwb
(11,281 posts)If we decide they are against us we have alternatives of our own as citizens on the road.
Beachnutt
(7,332 posts)many truckstops will have a booming tire business....
2naSalit
(86,710 posts)Sabotaging trucks.
I survived two national truck strikes back in the last century and it was very scary with people dropping rocks from overpasses and doing other stupid stuff.
Why be like the people you despise? People who willfully take actions to slow the supply chain are aiding the magats and their intent to shut it all down and starve us into submission.
Beachnutt
(7,332 posts)career trucking, last 21 of it as a Union Teamster, There were no national truck strikes that I recall.Back in the late 80's lotsa cb talk of it but it never happened.
I did catch an egg or two off over passes a cpl times and heard tell of folks dropping pumpkins off overpasses around halloween.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Then impound the vehicles and sell them at auction.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)brooklynite
(94,665 posts)When they break the law they WILL be arrested. They will also likely be blockaded from entering major cities en masse.
Gore1FL
(21,141 posts)It's not legal to block highways and bridges. Ask BLM. Ask Chris Christie. They are keenly aware of the consequences of their civil disobedience. Disturbance of the peace isn't legal. Harassment isn't legal.
How do you stop them from arriving en masse and blocking traffic? By putting up road blocks and doing their work for them?
The need to be fined and ticketed. They need to be reported to their insurance carriers.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)that sort of treatment is reserved for the left.
brooklynite
(94,665 posts)Last time I checked, Democrats run the Federal Government and the DC Government.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)Last I checked Democrats had the white house, the senate, the house, my governor, my state senate, my state house, my mayor, my city council, my metro council, and even the local school board.
And yet the police here who happily shoot lots of teargas at liberal protestors and provided a fair number of beatings along the way, has failed to do anything about repeated armed and violent RW invasions
brooklynite
(94,665 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)Its been on just about every form of news and information including here on DU.
I was specifically thinking of proud boys, 3%, oathkeepers, including literal insurrectionists, who came back home and kept going out for continued violent demonstrations.
After that i then recall the various groups of anti mask anti vaccine pro covid types who have been coming after school boards and schools and state houses. Last I heard in my (blue supermajority) state they won that battle and were allowed into the capital unmasked.
cadoman
(792 posts)...they have a lot of leverage. There's not enough jail space to arrest them all, and the exact kinds of people and equipment you need to move trucks, well, you'd get them from trucking companies. Compounding the matter, there was already a shortage of qualified drivers before the protest and the industry is thoroughly regulated, so there aren't any scabs to hire.
The earlier reports about this being a fringe group--while they were certainly the most accurate numbers possible for accredited journalists to obtain--with hindsight we can see just weren't very accurate.
I'm thankful the average journalist isn't in charge of game-planning the response because their ideas have been idiotic. The truckers are coordinating at a level that indicates either they're fucking brilliant, or they have some form of military backing. They've avoided being baited to violence several times already and have smart counter-operations to the police. Last night the cops went in to begin arrests and the crowd simply started singing the national anthem and took all the momentum out of it. Prior to that they had the jerry can congo line to counter the gas confiscation policies. They're winning hearts on the ground by cleaning the streets and public facilities, and the judge stopping the honking pretty much gave the city an own-goal because it was the thing most bothering residents.
The best strategy at this point is to pivot and give in. The sooner it's done the more effective it would be. But we won't do that. We'll continue to push the mandates in lunk-headed ways, harrass the truckers, and cause their numbers to grow. I have no clue why, but it's obviously what the government has mentally committed to.
Sneederbunk
(14,297 posts)Hotler
(11,437 posts)License, registration, proof of insurance and logs, check for guns. Start inspecting rigs safety violations, etc.
Traildogbob
(8,786 posts)Bring in fire trucks and bury them under a foot of solid ice. Dont let em get in those comfortable sleep areas to get out of the cold. Hell spray them, let em freeze.
scipan
(2,352 posts)As long as its safe.
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Yanicosco
(76 posts)it would be over already, badly.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)they wont like it now either. No matter the cause, blocking the way home and to work makes people angry.
moondust
(20,001 posts)Maximum punishment: 6 months jail or $5,000 fine
There may be other charges available.
AmBlue
(3,112 posts)It should be used for arresting and charging maskless anti-vaxxers!!
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)There are also laws on civil asset forfeiture. I doubt the truckers have given much thought to just what police can do with personal property used in the commission of a crime.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)Start payments with taking their trucks...and the guns inside them.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Not condoning. Just pointing it out.
tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)Yes they will and they did in Michigan when the lockdowns started.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/operation-gridlock-lansing-michigan-protest-ambulance-gretchen-whitmer-social-distancing-coronavirus-a9468756.html
The right likes to accuse the left of the same thing when they protest against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, OWS and BLM, without evidence. But it's okay when they actually do do it.