Pull the car parts plants out of Canada...

[orangecrush]

If they don't take action to move those right wing assholes out of the way of the supply chain.

And while we're at it, throw up military checkpoints and cordon off D.C. at the first hint of those fools approaching.

After January 6th, America should know better.

Gee, what could possibly go wrong with a bunch of right wing terrorists driving tractor TRAILERS into the Capitol?

[mahatmakanejeeves]

1. Sure. That couldn't take more than a day or two. NT

Stamping Out a New Generation of Automobile Parts

{snip}



This compact crossbar transfer press uses seven programmable axes to stamp large panels for auto bodies, as well as mid-sized engine hoods and doors for automobiles and trucks. The overall system measures 30 ft above floor, 18 ft under floor, is 197 ft long and weighs 3,000 tons. Die changes are completed with one die set in and one die set out in 10 to 15 minutes.

{snip}

[orangecrush]

6. If I were management

Of a U.S. auto manufacturer losing money because of a government tolerating this crap, it's sure as hell what I would tell them.

I didn't think bananas could grow in a republic like Canada.

[orangecrush]

22. OK

If our plants that use the parts this thing makes stops production because it isn't getting those parts, what happens to the plant making the parts?

[Omnipresent]

2. They would rather antagonize the left into pulling the trigger first.

That is why no shots were fired from the Jan 6th. Insurectionists.

[padfun]

3. I agree with you %100

And if we have to, put snipers on the rooftops to stop any truck that drives toward any gov building.

[Effete Snob]

4. Who is it you are suggesting "pull the car parts plants out of Canada"?

[Auggie]

5. Canada has been a parts manufacturer for decades. That would never -- could never -- happen.

Take action -- YES!

[orangecrush]

8. ???

Just heard on the news that parts for American car manufacturers are being stopped at crossing points from Canada, causing some American car plants to halt production.

This leads me to believe parts for U.S. automakers are made in and shipped from Canada.

I know Ford had body plants there, but no longer

Don't know what they make there now, but it ain't getting here, and it's causing major problems in a market already short of new car inventory.

[Auggie]

13. Yes, lots of car parts are made in Canada. Some GM cars are assembled there too.

No way GM could pull out of Canada -- too much is invested there. I don't understand your ???

[orangecrush]

19. II hope it doesn't come to that

But I think when a small group of useful idiots has a major negative impact on an already struggling economy still in shock from a pandemic, it's time for a government to act.

[Effete Snob]

21. The other automakers need to go after Elon Musk for funding it

Musk has been supporting the fascist uprising in Canada, because it hurts his competitors.

[orangecrush]

29. Thanks

.for the info.

[Auggie]

23. I agree. Take action. Ball is in Canada's court though. Blockade is on their soil.

[ProfessorGAC]

59. Our '95 Buick Regal SSP Was....

....assembled in Oakville, Ontario. So, you're absolutely right.
27 years ago Buicks were being assembled in Canada. Probably longer.
It's not just parts. They build finished vehicles.
BTW: I've driven through that area around Oakville & Hamilton a few times.
There's a LOT of auto manufacturing business around there!

[OneBlueDotS-Carolina]

26. Ford builds ....

Lincoln nautilus & ford edge @ the Oakville plant....

[orangecrush]

30. Thanks.

[Karma13612]

7. Yes, I agree with you on both counts.

I am getting really sick of ‘good guys’ obeying rules and laws and these nut-case right wing nutjob terrorists dictating my ability to sleep at night.

There are times where the authorities really need to take action. We saw peaceful protests being met with teargas, rubber bullets and billy-clubs because home-grown militia started to cause trouble. When are the authorities going to stop the true terrorists? We can’t WAIT until things get out of control like they did on January 6th, and then spend millions on investigations and trials that go on forever.

[orangecrush]

12. Stopping trucks

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From entering DC under these circumstances would hardly be "breaking the rules".

It's a national security threat.

As far as shooting goes, as long as someone stops for the nice soldiers at the checkpoint, and turns their dumb trumphumper
ass around when told to, they miss this years Darwin award.

[Karma13612]

58. Haha! Good one!!

[Sympthsical]

9. So, check "pro-labor" on the list of things

That can and will be jettisoned for disliked speech.

Is it the internet that does this? Just being in the bubble? Where responses authoritarian and extreme are just acceptable if the other side does something?

You know authoritarianism is rarely a controlled beast. When you erode norms to allow for it, that fist will swing back our way.

I suspect it would be disliked at first contact and the cries would be cacophonous.

So maybe don't advocate for these things? Let's try reason and liberal values on for size. Just for a change of social media pace. See if our old clothes still fit.

[orangecrush]

14. Perhaps the Teamsters

And FASH and other non trumpster unions can be persuaded to have a friendly chat with these poor misguided freedumb fighters.

[Sympthsical]

27. So, adding slurs of the disabled to the list

I really wish people could see how they sound.

I'm not sure what it will take for awareness to come. The Right is near to drowning, and now I'm just kind of watching how many of us it can successfully drag down with it.

More than I was hoping for at this point.

[orangecrush]

32. The red herring

Are spawning in Canada this time of year!

[Sympthsical]

36. You used an ableist slur

We can use adult words.

[orangecrush]

41. I concede that point

And am editing the unintentional slur out.

Just an FYI, I am disabled.

And mocking my lack of access to higher education due to economic inequality puts you on the same level.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

39. Pull yourself together. Get rid of the ableist slur.

[Effete Snob]

25. Pro-labor?

Are you suggesting this is an organic "labor" protest of some kind?

https://teamsters.ca/en/blog/2022/02/07/the-real-enemy-for-truckers-is-covid-19/

Teamsters Canada is proud to represent over 55,000 professional drivers from diverse industries across the country, approximately 15,000 of which are long haul truck drivers, 90% of whom are vaccinated.


The so-called “freedom convoy” and the despicable display of hate lead by the political Right and shamefully encouraged by elected conservative politicians does not reflect the values of Teamsters Canada, nor the vast majority of our members, and in fact has served to delegitimize the real concerns of most truck drivers today.

[Sympthsical]

28. Pulling auto plants?

You know autoworkers are the heart of many labor movements. Advocating for punishing them - and those workers when most of them aren't involved - because you don't like this protest is . . . what? Pro-labor? The right thing to do? A completely reasonable reaction?

Really think about the mindset required for some of these arguments.

What are you fighting for, if the solution is to burn villages?

[orangecrush]

33. More union jobs

In the USA?

Hmmmm ..

[Sympthsical]

35. The claim of that motive is long past the horizon

When you lead with retribution and vengeance, trying to frame it in good terms usually fails. Usually you want to put the good thing first as a cover for the bad motive. Bringing it second is just corrosive to the effect.

I admire the attempt though.

[MineralMan]

10. How would that make any sense?

This trucker thing is a temporary mess. It would take months or years to physically move those parts facilities out of Canada and into the US.

Nobody will even consider what you suggest. It is literally impossible to do in any sort of sane time frame. The trucker thing will be over soon, and parts will once again flow.

[orangecrush]

15. Should we let

Them bring trailers into D.C.?

[MineralMan]

18. That has nothing to do with your suggestion.

I suspect that no such thing will occur, actually. However, planning is no doubt underway to deal with it if it did happen. Same with the Super Bowl. There might be some truckers thinking about causing a ruckus there. I suspect such a thing will not be allowed in any way.

But, the blockages in Canada are something very different, and your suggestion that factories be moved over it is completely out of the question.

[orangecrush]

34. I would imagine

American management is not very happy right now.


I hope it gets sorted out peacefully, as I k ow you do.

[OneBlueDotS-Carolina]

17. GM Oshawa...

Is the only producer of GMC Sierra & Chevy Silverado pickup trucks.

Other SUVs are manufactured at the GM Ingersoll plant.

St. Catherines produces V6 & V8 vortec engines.

[MineralMan]

20. Yes. The original poster apparently did not know any of that

before making his bizarre suggestion. The truckers' protest will soon be over and things will return to normal. However, there will still be a shortage of those trucks, due to the chip shortage. Bigger fish to fry, for sure.

The automobile industry is truly global. I own a Chevy Trax, a subcompact AWD SUV. It was manufactured in South Korea by GM's subsidiary there. It used to be Daewoo, I think. I also own a KIA Soul, also made in South Korea. Both are imported cars. They just have different logos, really.

[OneBlueDotS-Carolina]

11. Sam McLaughlin

A Canadian dude, one of the founders of GM, along with Bill Durant of Buick.

General Motors of Canada, don't think it's going to be shut down.

[orangecrush]

16. My oldest brother

Was a general supervisor at a GM plant.

I understand what you are saying.

I feel sorry for whoever has to explain to the stockholders.

[OneBlueDotS-Carolina]

24. You might find a few Canadian GM stockholders...n/t

[orangecrush]

45. No doubt.

[OneBlueDotS-Carolina]

50. It's a mess...

Ontario Premier & trump lover Doug Ford is about to speak on the matter. Honda, Toyota have plants in Canada as well. Honda has shut down a shift, due to parts shortage. It's complicated, suggesting shutting Canadian plants is not going to happen. Canadian governments have billions invested in these plants. Much of the new investment deals with the design, software, batteries for EVs.

The major problem may seem to be a Canadian problem, soon I think the facts will bear out that this is funded by radical fascist Americans, they don't care about masks, vaccines, vaccine passports, they care about dismantling democracy.

One simple truth, this started, or so they claim, due to Canadian truckers having to be vaccinated or quarantine when they returned to Canada from the US. There is the first clue, to get into the US, they have to be vaccinated. In other words, they're lying.

[orangecrush]

55. Truth

.and I'll bet if you dig dweo enough, Russian not farms are spreading it to other countries.

[orangecrush]

47. Canada is a friend and alky...

Er, ally, and always has been.

I love Trudeau.

I just wish he/they would nip this in the bud. (Not the legal kind.. )

The first U.S. Special Forces were a joint U.S. - Canadian outfit in WW2.

[OneBlueDotS-Carolina]

51. Of course...

Camp X

[orangecrush]

52. Canadian

Badasses.

[orangecrush]

54. Magnificent

[ForgedCrank]

31. Military checkpoints?

What could possibly go wrong with that idea?

You know, the more attention those idiots get, the more they will push.
I don't like what they are doing, and I specially don't like why they are doing it, but we need to keep our wits about us.
If we start crossing the lines suggested, it is a turning point in the wrong direction for all Americans.
Besides, pulling billion dollar businesses out of Canada is something that Canadians might have an opinion about.

[orangecrush]

42. Try flying

A small aircraft into restricted airspace over D.C. and see what happens.

[FSogol]

37. Translation: Someone should do something about the problem! That's what I would do!

[orangecrush]

44. Not "something"

1._Stop the trucks from entering D.C. They are a national security threat.

2. Ratchet up pressure on the. Canadian government to keep the supply chain open.

[FSogol]

48. Our natural DC traffic will prevent the trucks from entering. n/t

[orangecrush]

53. I've been on the beltway

You speak truth.

[kcr]

56. Truth n/t

[sarisataka]

38. That would solve the problem of getting parts

In 5-10 years.

And weren't were afraid of the military taking over DC, wondering how many Trump loyalists were hidden in command? So, have the military control all access to DC.

[orangecrush]

43. Trump's military appointments

Shortly before January 6th STOPPED the military from deploying to deal the insurrection.

[sarisataka]

46. Depending on which

Of the seventeen "unnamed inside sources" you believe.

Long after Jan. 6, like last week, I have seen posts asking if we can trust the military because of all the RWs who have joined.

[orangecrush]

49. Your comment is well spoken

And I honor your opinion

[WhiskeyGrinder]

40. Scratch a liberal...

[Jedi Guy]

57. No thanks.

I live near the Oakville plant. The effects on the local economy would be pretty catastrophic, to say the least. So I think I'd just as soon not wreck said economy and punish thousands and thousands of innocent people to satisfy your desire for revenge, all things considered.

[orangecrush]

60. You do have a point there

Perhaps instead, we can get a few Greyhound busses full of the union auto workers who have been idled by these trump loving scabs to go up there and have a nice kumbaya discussion with them.