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Nevilledog

(51,163 posts)
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:34 AM Feb 2022

Liz Cheney Pens Op-Ed Warning GOP Trumpers The Truth Is Coming Out



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"Cheney penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed that reads almost as a warning, a promise, and an invitation, to join the right side of history. The truth is about to come out."

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Liz Cheney Pens Op-Ed Warning GOP Trumpers The Truth Is Coming Out
Cheney penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed that reads almost as a warning, a promise, and an invitation, to join the right side of history. The truth is about to come out.
7:26 AM · Feb 11, 2022


https://www.politicususa.com/2022/02/11/liz-cheney-pens-op-ed-warning-gop-trumpers-the-truth-is-coming-out.html

It took a man like Trump to bring the progressive left and the arch-conservative Liz Cheney and family (likely the Bushes, too) together. In a lesson, we would do well to remember, Cheney and Kinzinger (and Romney in other contexts) have proven that a politician can hold solid, even extreme, conservative beliefs, and yet line up alongside us when the country is on the line. Additionally, though there certainly are times when conservative ideology plays to racists, fiscal conservatives (of Cheney’s type) need not be the object of our disdain, merely an opponent.

The above is mentioned because if we are to yank the truth out of the Republicans regarding their role – all of them – in the events after the November 2020 election, it will because a member of one of the country’s most powerful conservative families (backed by former presidential candidate Mitt Romney) dug her heels in and decided to work for Nancy Pelosi rather than against her when the issue was democracy itself. Country over party.

As the Select Committee really picks up momentum and the bombs continue to drop, Cheney penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed that reads almost as a warning, a promise, and an invitation, to join the right side of history. The truth is about to come out.

Cheney begins by shaming the party with what they all know. From the WSJ:

“Republicans used to advocate fidelity to the rule of law and the plain text of the Constitution. In 2020, Mr. Trump convinced many to abandon those principles. He falsely claimed that the election was stolen from him because of widespread fraud. While some degree of fraud occurs in every election, there was no evidence of fraud on a scale that could have changed this one.”


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Liz Cheney Pens Op-Ed Warning GOP Trumpers The Truth Is Coming Out (Original Post) Nevilledog Feb 2022 OP
Excellent! Unlike most republicans, she has the guts and interest in the US to try to do what is RKP5637 Feb 2022 #1
I would say this... Dan Feb 2022 #3
absolutely, especially WhiteTara Feb 2022 #9
"sometimes without question" KS Toronado Feb 2022 #33
And get rid of the other I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #52
Not guts Traildogbob Feb 2022 #12
I'm not quite that generous. She's just doing the right thing. BComplex Feb 2022 #45
Yep, "... just doing the right thing." The GOP needs more like that! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2022 #47
Romney has blown an opportunity to show that he more than NCjack Feb 2022 #2
Fortunate indeed, the fact that he is Mormon was big. Nothing against Mormon's walkingman Feb 2022 #4
do mormons believe in jesus? getagrip_already Feb 2022 #15
Religion was originally created in the Paleolithic as a way to wield power. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #23
Well we managed to ally ourselves with Stalin long enough to get rid of Hitler localroger Feb 2022 #5
Well said. BComplex Feb 2022 #46
Please Proceed... BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #6
Her op-ed: dalton99a Feb 2022 #7
Liz is a terrific ally empedocles Feb 2022 #8
except that she didn't support the WhiteTara Feb 2022 #10
'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' - 4 B.C. empedocles Feb 2022 #21
!!!!!!!!THIS!!!!!!! CatWoman Feb 2022 #27
This. orangecrush Feb 2022 #36
Some people hold to "the enemy of my enemy is my ally"... forgotmylogin Feb 2022 #30
I have no illusions about Liz WhiteTara Feb 2022 #34
I dont trust I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #53
I can't say that I am aware of all of her agenda, but Dan Feb 2022 #44
Nicely said. cilla4progress Feb 2022 #31
I gotta say she's having an awesome moment. Thank you for this post. ancianita Feb 2022 #11
Mr. Trump leftieNanner Feb 2022 #13
Noted 3auld6phart Feb 2022 #38
Thank You- dalton99a... for posting the entire op ed.... We appreciate the work that you do. Stuart G Feb 2022 #18
the committee will prove election was not stolen Hamlette Feb 2022 #42
Thank you for additional text. Can't wait for these open hearings. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #56
Here is a paywall-free link to the op-ed she wrote: Gore1FL Feb 2022 #14
And the comment section. Some nasty pieces of work and extreme fantasies... thenelm1 Feb 2022 #25
You are right about the comments. yonder Feb 2022 #37
Yes, but it seems mostly to be republiQans eating their own. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #58
thank you so much for this CatWoman Feb 2022 #28
Oh, excellent! Thank you. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #57
They don't care for the truth. OneCrazyDiamond Feb 2022 #16
Yep. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #48
Trump's cult will just claim the revelations as lies. sakabatou Feb 2022 #17
This has a lot to do with ego, but in a good way nuxvomica Feb 2022 #19
I actually think I could vote for this woman. lindysalsagal Feb 2022 #20
Hey, if you're in her district, go for it - IN THE PRIMARY. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #24
No, of course I always vote dem. But I'm surprised at the courage lindysalsagal Feb 2022 #51
Her stance regarding the insurrection is admirable. Harker Feb 2022 #40
Although some fraud occurred, Biden overcame it and won resoundingly in spite of it. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #22
Why Do i Have The Feeling That The Truth That Comes Out will Be Even...... global1 Feb 2022 #26
They're dribbling pieces of it that make me think it was huge and much more Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #61
Does she have a secret? moondust Feb 2022 #29
She probably knows most of it. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #49
This makes me think she is preparing the way to becoming an Independent and signalling to other CTyankee Feb 2022 #32
I applaud Liz Chaney, but not her father. I believe Dick did a lot of wrong to the country, he and Escurumbele Feb 2022 #35
Exactly what you said wryter2000 Feb 2022 #41
When, oh when, are we going to have hearings? wryter2000 Feb 2022 #39
That's what I want to know, too! WTF are we waiting for? calimary Feb 2022 #43
Last I heard, they're "hoping" to have them in April. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #60
This Op Ed made me smile LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #50
Tell Donny the Roto Rooter man is coming Blue Owl Feb 2022 #54
Does anyone else remember the amazing powers her dad gave himself as vice president? PurgedVoter Feb 2022 #55
She certainly is our strange bedfellow right now. I'll take it. Too much at stake Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #59

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. Excellent! Unlike most republicans, she has the guts and interest in the US to try to do what is
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:38 AM
Feb 2022

right. The majority of the republicans are sniveling cowards.

Dan

(3,576 posts)
3. I would say this...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:45 AM
Feb 2022

The vast majority of people are followers. They follow the leader(s) of their circle and what their leaders believe they accept, sometimes without question. If you combine that trait of ‘following’ with low education, limited sources of information, and need to be part of the group - then you get what we have now.

Some of the followers will fight to the death in their zeal to be part of the group. Some have an amazing ability to not see what is before them. And some, some are just immoral, evil and nuts.

Get rid of FAUX news - and maybe, just maybe we can start the healing of a nation.

KS Toronado

(17,290 posts)
33. "sometimes without question"
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 01:52 PM
Feb 2022

That's most R's biggest problem, they lack critical thinking skills. Can't remember who said it but something
I've always remembered..."To be a real seeker of truth, question everything"

BComplex

(8,059 posts)
45. I'm not quite that generous. She's just doing the right thing.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 04:17 PM
Feb 2022

She's no hero or savior. She's just doing the right thing from the party of wrong.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
2. Romney has blown an opportunity to show that he more than
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:40 AM
Feb 2022

a vulture capitalist. USA is very fortunate that President Obama defeated Romney.

walkingman

(7,643 posts)
4. Fortunate indeed, the fact that he is Mormon was big. Nothing against Mormon's
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:59 AM
Feb 2022

but the religiosity crowd scares me. "Jesusland" is a very real threat to our Democracy.

getagrip_already

(14,812 posts)
15. do mormons believe in jesus?
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:37 PM
Feb 2022

But I get your drift. Religion has become nothing more than a way to wield power to many.

It has long been so I guess. The sheep are herded by wolves.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. Religion was originally created in the Paleolithic as a way to wield power.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 01:01 PM
Feb 2022

It has never been anything else.

localroger

(3,629 posts)
5. Well we managed to ally ourselves with Stalin long enough to get rid of Hitler
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:00 PM
Feb 2022

Didn't mean either of us liked the other very much, or that we didn't have our own massive differences. But in that moment we understood that working together to get rid of the Nazis was more important than going after each other. Once Hitler was gone, of course, the fact that we had nothing in common and hated one another came to the fore. So yeah, it's good to have the Cheneys and the Lincoln Project working with us at this critical point, but we also need to watch our backs in the future because in the long run they are not our friends, just temporary allies of convenience in the more immediate conflict.

dalton99a

(81,559 posts)
7. Her op-ed:
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:06 PM
Feb 2022
...

Republicans used to advocate fidelity to the rule of law and the plain text of the Constitution. In 2020, Mr. Trump convinced many to abandon those principles. He falsely claimed that the election was stolen from him because of widespread fraud. While some degree of fraud occurs in every election, there was no evidence of fraud on a scale that could have changed this one. As the Select Committee will demonstrate in hearings later this year, no foreign power corrupted America’s voting machines, and no massive secret fraud changed the election outcome.

Almost all members of Congress know this—although many lack the courage to say it out loud. Mr. Trump knew it too, from his own campaign officials, from his own appointees at the Justice Department, and from the dozens of lawsuits he lost. Yet, Mr. Trump ignored the rulings of the courts and launched a massive campaign to mislead the public. Our hearings will show that these falsehoods provoked the violence on Jan. 6. Mr. Trump’s lawyers have begun to pay the price for spreading these lies. For example, Rudy Giuliani’s license to practice law has been suspended because he “communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump, ” in the words of a New York appellate court.

The Jan. 6 investigation isn’t only about the inexcusable violence of that day: It is also about fidelity to the Constitution and the rule of law, and whether elected representatives believe in those things or not. One member of the House Freedom Caucus warned the White House in the days before Jan. 6 that the president’s plans would drive “a stake in the heart of the federal republic.” That was exactly right.

Those who do not wish the truth of Jan. 6 to come out have predictably resorted to attacking the process—claiming it is tainted and political. Our hearings will show this charge to be wrong. We are focused on facts, not rhetoric, and we will present those facts without exaggeration, no matter what criticism we face. My friend the late Charles Krauthammer once said: “The lesson of our history is that the task of merely maintaining strong and sturdy the structures of a constitutional order is unending, the continuing and ceaseless work of every generation.” Every generation of Americans has fulfilled its duty to support and defend the Constitution. That responsibility now falls to us.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/january-6-committee-electoral-votes-college-mike-pence-certify-2020-presidential-election-trump-liz-cheney-riot-protest-insurrection-11644510638

WhiteTara

(29,719 posts)
10. except that she didn't support the
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:30 PM
Feb 2022

voting rights act. She has her own agenda and is just using the Committee to further it.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
21. 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' - 4 B.C.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:55 PM
Feb 2022

'The enemy of my enemy is my friend - …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_enemy_of_my...
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is an ancient proverb which suggests that two parties can or should work together against a common enemy. A phrase that some people consider to be similar is found in a Sanskrit treatise on statecraft, the Arthashastra, which dates to around the 4th ...See more'

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
30. Some people hold to "the enemy of my enemy is my ally"...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 01:23 PM
Feb 2022

It's valid to respect someone's convictions but still be opposed to what they represent. We can't expect Liz Cheney to suddenly endorse other liberal agendas just because she's on our side in this case in the Jan 6 Commission.

Biden has said he's friends with Mitch McConnell and Mitch is gonna do what Mitch does, kind of implying that Biden understands Mitch's modus operandi but doesn't take it personally. In this case I think it's akin to trial lawyers who've known each other for years fighting tooth and nail in the courtroom but going out for drinks afterwards. There's nothing wrong with keeping a work relationship separate from a personal relationship.

WhiteTara

(29,719 posts)
34. I have no illusions about Liz
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 02:01 PM
Feb 2022

Of course she is useful, but never think she is your friend. She has her own agenda and I don't want President L Cheney.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
53. I dont trust
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:47 AM
Feb 2022

Any conservative or republican because of what they believe.

There is no hierarchical natural order of human beings.

Hierarchy is not natural.

A lot of animals dont tolerate it.

Dan

(3,576 posts)
44. I can't say that I am aware of all of her agenda, but
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 04:06 PM
Feb 2022

I do suspect that she is definitely trying to save her party. Not only from Trump, but the stain that will tarnish the party as a result of their leadership. The stain that a whole political party and it’s leadership fell victim (victim is the wrong word) to a charlatan. Once it’s established - how will they recover the decent, respectful and moral people that were not a part of the con?

3auld6phart

(1,049 posts)
38. Noted
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 02:26 PM
Feb 2022

For sure that orange piece of excreta doesn’t and
never did deserve the title “President “. It boggles
my mind that people place that piece of shit on
pedestal and want to kiss his ass.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
42. the committee will prove election was not stolen
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 03:10 PM
Feb 2022

That is what surprised me by this column. I hadn't known the committee intended to put on evidence to prove Trump wrong.

It won't work for the cult, but it might work for enough.

thenelm1

(854 posts)
25. And the comment section. Some nasty pieces of work and extreme fantasies...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 01:04 PM
Feb 2022

going on in the comments. Whoa.

Scrivener7

(50,987 posts)
58. Yes, but it seems mostly to be republiQans eating their own.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:50 AM
Feb 2022


Where are all the "Republicans in disarrrrraaaaayyyyyyy" articles? Maybe they could stage some rumbles between bowling teams sponsored by midwest diners? It'd make for great copy!

nuxvomica

(12,436 posts)
19. This has a lot to do with ego, but in a good way
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:42 PM
Feb 2022

She cannot stomach being a lackey to such a loser. What I find most odd about his acolytes is despite their bluster they are willing to be TFG's puppets and rag dolls. If everything goes as I hope, this period is how history will remember her.

Harker

(14,030 posts)
40. Her stance regarding the insurrection is admirable.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 02:30 PM
Feb 2022

I'm not sure there's much we'd agree upon outside of that, though.

She's very much a republican't.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
22. Although some fraud occurred, Biden overcame it and won resoundingly in spite of it.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:59 PM
Feb 2022

All of the fraud, or at least 99.9% of it, was committed by pro-Trump forces.

global1

(25,263 posts)
26. Why Do i Have The Feeling That The Truth That Comes Out will Be Even......
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 01:07 PM
Feb 2022

more shocking than anything we've learned so far about this 'coup attempt by Tr**p and his lackey's'.

Scrivener7

(50,987 posts)
61. They're dribbling pieces of it that make me think it was huge and much more
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:58 AM
Feb 2022

organized than we ever dreamed.

And if we don't come down on it with a big hammer pretty soon, all that will be a blueprint for the next, smarter, bunch of traitors.

moondust

(20,002 posts)
29. Does she have a secret?
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 01:22 PM
Feb 2022

When I heard about Navarro saying “We spent a lot of time lining up over 100 congressmen" for the coup attempt I wondered if Cheney had heard about the plot circulating among her caucus. Maybe that's why as they were evacuating on January 6 she said to Gymboy Jordan: "Get away from me. You fucking did this." How much did she know in advance that she may now be ready to disclose? Time to name names?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
32. This makes me think she is preparing the way to becoming an Independent and signalling to other
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 01:33 PM
Feb 2022

Republicans who might feel queasy about their party that it's OK to depart.

But I dunno. Maybe that is wishful thinking on my part...and maybe she would just be a pain in the butt in our party.

Escurumbele

(3,401 posts)
35. I applaud Liz Chaney, but not her father. I believe Dick did a lot of wrong to the country, he and
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 02:06 PM
Feb 2022

idiot George (not curious George) helped bring trump, they broke so many rules which opened the eyes of the worst from the republican party. They taught republicans that yes, you can really get away with murder, and they took that lesson to heart, reason why we are where we are.

Dick and George should have been cell mates, but the so called "rule of law" failed us, the "no one is above the law" failed us, and now republicans know they can get away with almost anything.

If trump and gang are not made accountable for their crimes it will only get worst. There is Josh Hawley, drooling in excitement because he has learned all the lessons from past republicans, and he knows he is smarter than they are, he can't wait to make the USA his private mansion and walk arm-in-arm with Putin and others, because that is exactly what they do, they end up believing the country is theirs, that they own it and can do anything they want.

wryter2000

(46,075 posts)
41. Exactly what you said
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 02:34 PM
Feb 2022

They've learned they can get away with a baseless war. Torture. Spying on Americans. Impoverishing everyone so the rich can be disgustingly rich. Ruining the environment to the point we have droughts, fires, floods, hurricanes. They can lie and steal. They can deny brown and black people the vote. Attempt a para-military take-over of the government. Ally with Putin. And there are no consequences. There must, finally, be consequences.

wryter2000

(46,075 posts)
39. When, oh when, are we going to have hearings?
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 02:29 PM
Feb 2022

I was patient waiting for impeachment. There were reasons for it immediately after he took office (emoluments), but we had to wait for something big enough that we couldn't simply be "picking on" him. When those times came, we impeached. People who insisted all along that Republicans would do the right thing were proven wrong.

But, holy cow, do we have the goods on him and his type now. Why do we have to wait?

I guess it'll be a better time when we're building to the elections. We can't have the hearings be no more than a memory by November. But it sure is hard as hell to wait. I feel as if I've been waiting since W invaded Iraq.

calimary

(81,389 posts)
43. That's what I want to know, too! WTF are we waiting for?
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 03:41 PM
Feb 2022

Besides, the clock is ticking on our time to DO SOMETHING. We could lose the advantage in November and our Dems would predictably too dispirited to be se the time between the election and the next Congress in January to flex any waning muscle.

Do something NOW!!!!!

PurgedVoter

(2,218 posts)
55. Does anyone else remember the amazing powers her dad gave himself as vice president?
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:00 AM
Feb 2022

I am not saying his daughter would do the same, but there was not a single peep out of the Republican party as Dick granted himself extraordinary powers and oversaw unbelievable twisting of the Constitution.

Well before then, Trump extracted money in ways never before done by a president and hired his family in direct opposition to laws put into place by Republicans.

I would argue that the Republicans have managed for years to get away with saying they were for law and order without ever showing a willingness to bend to the laws and orders they set.

Cheney may actually be one of those few conservative leaders who believe that there are things worth making sacrifices to maintain. It is an amazing thing to see someone who worships at the alter of selfishness that conservatism is, who realizes that the alter will burn if the selfish fires of destruction are not contained within it.

Scrivener7

(50,987 posts)
59. She certainly is our strange bedfellow right now. I'll take it. Too much at stake
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:54 AM
Feb 2022

not to, and she is one of the people pushing for answers and results right now.

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