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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,612 posts)
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 09:01 PM Feb 2022

Number of articles Maggie Haberman wrote or contributed to involving Hillary Clinton's emails, ...

Number of articles Maggie Haberman wrote or contributed to involving Hillary Clinton’s emails, between 1/1/2015 and 12/31/2016:

265

Number of articles she wrote about Trump’s post-presidency relationship with Kim Jong-un or his flushing docs down the toilet:

ZERO


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Number of articles Maggie Haberman wrote or contributed to involving Hillary Clinton's emails, ... (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2022 OP
I don't get why Maggie Haberman is on TV so much. madaboutharry Feb 2022 #1
She certainly has a monotone and emotionless delivery. BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #2
Maggie is one of many reasons why agingdem Feb 2022 #3
Yep - while there's a bit of "Hold-Yer-Nose" regarding the Bezos Post . . . . hatrack Feb 2022 #7
They had Jason Miller on for a while. I think Rick Santorum still shows up once in a blue moon too. gldstwmn Feb 2022 #25
With Regard To Santorum... ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #35
When someone will reliably say what they are paid to say, you make the most of it. quakerboy Feb 2022 #10
whoa!!!!!! bluboid Feb 2022 #4
Haberman is Trump's PR agent embedded in the New York Times dalton99a Feb 2022 #5
Good to know that. nt BootinUp Feb 2022 #6
It's especially sad when women are sexist dlk Feb 2022 #8
Had no idea she was THAT lopsided! machoneman Feb 2022 #9
It's not the toilet docs, it's the highly classified ones he took home after leaving office... NullTuples Feb 2022 #11
More Tweets calling out Maggie H... Cha Feb 2022 #12
Grifters will grift Cheezoholic Feb 2022 #13
Those of you bashing Haberman don't know what you're talking about. ificandream Feb 2022 #14
Why are the stories like flushing down papers Hav Feb 2022 #15
A story like that wouldn't have been held for a book ... ificandream Feb 2022 #17
What do you mean? Hav Feb 2022 #18
The book's been common knowledge for a while now. ificandream Feb 2022 #19
It may be saying this is a limited hang out Captain Zero Feb 2022 #24
"You don't know why she didn't do the Hillary stories." Say what? MrsCoffee Feb 2022 #20
Just what I said.... ificandream Feb 2022 #32
Nobody claimed any such thing. MrsCoffee Feb 2022 #34
Take a look at the list of her stories ... ificandream Feb 2022 #38
Reading comprehension is your friend. I strongly suggest that you read the OP niyad Feb 2022 #53
Thanks for the insight. That was probably retweeted by Popehat or Kevin M. Kruse. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2022 #22
Excellent points PJMcK Feb 2022 #27
Thanks. :) ificandream Feb 2022 #33
So how many articles did she write? treestar Feb 2022 #36
Look at the link on the Times site. ificandream Feb 2022 #39
Why is it so hard to understand, indeed. MrsCoffee Feb 2022 #46
Bashing her for no reason is a Fawks thing. She hasn't done anything wrong. She exposed Trump. ificandream Feb 2022 #47
Bashing her for writing two hundred and sixty five articles about Hillary's emails alone MrsCoffee Feb 2022 #52
First of all, it is "rein", not "reeign". Second, as thee OP clearly states, maggie wrote niyad Feb 2022 #55
Gas lighting usually doesn't take this many words, we can see disparities in reporting come on man uponit7771 Feb 2022 #62
I am SOOOOOOOOO glad this is coming out! calimary Feb 2022 #16
Andrea Emails Mitchell and Maggie Haberman two of the biggest Email reporters. sarcasmo Feb 2022 #21
She is an awful Meowmee Feb 2022 #23
She's hardly that. ificandream Feb 2022 #40
On a related side note, is this true? KS Toronado Feb 2022 #26
Nothing more needed to prove she has poor judgement than when she said TFG Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2022 #28
But most people have always found him charming in person -- Hortensis Feb 2022 #59
Ah yes, well, my point urbtjğ1wȘ$"*,,, & *&, ',, &, &, &, &, & ***', *-' Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2022 #61
But most people have always found him charming in person -- Hortensis Feb 2022 #60
That the NYT is considered a "liberal" paper is more evidence Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2022 #29
I cancelled my subscription the NYT a very long ago LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #30
Liberal media my ass! Lunabell Feb 2022 #31
This report does not surprise me, it's good to have thr numbers. If accurate it confirms msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #37
Reporters get criticized all the time for what they write. ificandream Feb 2022 #41
we've seen those standards lacking everyday since forever long before social media became a thing. msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #42
That's Fawks News b.s. ificandream Feb 2022 #43
Fawkes News BS? msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #44
Why is it pointless? ificandream Feb 2022 #45
Or when they realize that their efforts are futile. MrsCoffee Feb 2022 #48
I won't if that's what it is... ificandream Feb 2022 #49
Don't accuse people of being right wingers here. It's bullshit. MrsCoffee Feb 2022 #51
+1 betsuni Feb 2022 #54
Is that right? MrsCoffee Feb 2022 #56
Why the continual focus on Haberman? ificandream Feb 2022 #57
Because that's what this thread is about. That's how we have discussions on DU. MrsCoffee Feb 2022 #58
OPINION: The NY Times owes Hillary Clinton an apology LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #50

madaboutharry

(40,220 posts)
1. I don't get why Maggie Haberman is on TV so much.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 09:10 PM
Feb 2022

She is a staple on the cable news shows. I find her incredibly uninteresting and very dull.

I will give her this: Her book Confidence Man has a great title. I am sure, however, I am not going to be interested in reading it.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
2. She certainly has a monotone and emotionless delivery.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 09:18 PM
Feb 2022

She is publishing the book in Oct so any info in the book can't be used by the Jan 6 Committee until right before the midterms. She is an opportunist and overrated in my opinion.

agingdem

(7,858 posts)
3. Maggie is one of many reasons why
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 10:00 PM
Feb 2022

I canceled my NYT subscription years ago..she's not a journalist, she's Trump's stenographer, apologist, conveyor of "feelings" (angry, anxious/happy blah blah blah)...she's a phony posing as a serious person..I'm not surprised Maggie's a CNN hire...remember Cory Lewandowski?...

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
7. Yep - while there's a bit of "Hold-Yer-Nose" regarding the Bezos Post . . . .
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 10:33 PM
Feb 2022

I was delighted to see the back of our NYT subscription.

"Paper Of Record" my pale white ass . . .

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
25. They had Jason Miller on for a while. I think Rick Santorum still shows up once in a blue moon too.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:50 PM
Feb 2022

ProfessorGAC

(65,170 posts)
35. With Regard To Santorum...
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:37 PM
Feb 2022

...I believe they permanently launched him over the rotten things he said about native Americans, on air.
IIRC, he lasted less than 12 hours after he made those comments.
So, at least you won't be seeing him anymore.
But, what did CNN expect? A small minded big mouth with an ego allowed to bloviate on their time.
He was on there way too much before they showed him the exit. He was a continual embarrassment to them, and they gave him enough rope to hang himself.
Hiring him was a stupid decision in the first place.

bluboid

(561 posts)
4. whoa!!!!!!
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 10:26 PM
Feb 2022

thank you for presenting the above information - it speaks volumes.
negativity is as negativity does - & Maggie H is just about the most negative journalist & media darling there is.

Cheezoholic

(2,033 posts)
13. Grifters will grift
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:34 PM
Feb 2022

Theres been more books come out in the last couple years than one can count, on both sides. I havent seen an onslaught of "insider" books like this since 9/11.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
14. Those of you bashing Haberman don't know what you're talking about.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:41 PM
Feb 2022

Has anyone looked at the list of her stories? She's been all over the problems of Trump. This is the type of crap the Fawks lovers peddle to criticize the media. I've seen articles that Trump is more worried about her book than anyone else's. (And I'll bet some right-wingers are all over this thread licking their chops.)

She's a reporter. She doesn't write to us here at DU. She writes THE STORY in an impartial manner. That's what journalism is. (FYI, I worked at a daily newspaper for over three decades and I edited stories myself.) And I see criticisms in this thread about how people don't trust journalism. That's the exact same stuff I see on right-wing sites. The fact she exposed Trump shoving the papers down the toilet isn't good? C'mon.

You don't know why she didn't do the Hillary stories. They may not have been hers to write. So enough of this social media stuff about her, This is a big story, one that Trump certainly isn't happy about. And you're criticizing her?

Hav

(5,969 posts)
15. Why are the stories like flushing down papers
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:08 AM
Feb 2022

only now making the news? Were they saved for a book?
That's the point. She was fine attacking Hillary (again and again) when it mattered but saved unreal stuff like this to keep access to Trump and to profit from it personally later. What a disgusting hack.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
17. A story like that wouldn't have been held for a book ...
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:17 AM
Feb 2022

... and she did leak it out now months ahead of the book's publication. There may very well be more in the book, but the fact we know about this now instead of October when the book comes out says something.

Here &ab_channel=CNN" target="_blank">she talks about the story.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
18. What do you mean?
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:24 AM
Feb 2022

If it wasn't reported when it happened or when she knew about it, then it was held back when it could have influenced the voters. And it's now making the rounds when she's advertising her book.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
19. The book's been common knowledge for a while now.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:46 AM
Feb 2022

Ask her when she learned of the story. You think she learned it from Trump?
She did nothing wrong.

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
24. It may be saying this is a limited hang out
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:37 PM
Feb 2022

As Nixon used to phrase it. She's getting some things out in dribs and drabs then when DOJ goes after Trump his sycophants dismiss it saying Maggie Haldermann had this out there months ago. It's no big deal.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
32. Just what I said....
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 08:59 PM
Feb 2022

Reporters don't get free reign to do anything they want. They're on "beats" ... and they have to write what their focus is. People in the thread are claiming purposely stayed away from Hillary. The fact is she may not have been assigned to write about her. On a newspaper like the Times, reporters get certain things to focus on. I don't know what her "beat" was but it may not have been Hillary. In fact, given all the Trump stories she's done my guess is her focus is Trump.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
34. Nobody claimed any such thing.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:18 PM
Feb 2022

Look at the Original Post you replied to.

It says straight up that Maggie wrote or contributed to TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE articles about Hillary and her email.

In contrast to her reporting on Mr. Trump's shenanigans which has been nearly non-existent in comparison.

niyad

(113,556 posts)
53. Reading comprehension is your friend. I strongly suggest that you read the OP
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:51 AM
Feb 2022

because it clearly does not correspond to what you are posting. The ZERO was about NOT covering kimmy and the F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**, and their continued relationship post presidency.

Try again.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,612 posts)
22. Thanks for the insight. That was probably retweeted by Popehat or Kevin M. Kruse.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 07:50 AM
Feb 2022

I just posted it here as an FYI. One nit to pick:

You don't know why she didn't do the Hillary stories. They may not have been hers to write. So enough of this social media stuff about her, This is a big story, one that Trump certainly isn't happy about. And you're criticizing her?

I think what you meant to say is that we don't know why she didn't do the Trump stories. I don't subscribe to the NYT, so I don't know if Maggie Haberman is still their main White House reporter. Perhaps she has been reassigned, and someone else has that beat now.

Thanks again.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
27. Excellent points
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 07:04 PM
Feb 2022

I was thinking of how to respond to the OP when I read your post. You've stated the facts more clearly than I could.

The comparison of Mrs. Clinton's emails stories to Trumps stories is a bit of a straw man argument as there's no similarity to the disparate issues.

If Ms. Haberman is trying to make a buck on her obviously hard work, so what? Who said it was her job to fight against Trump? That's really not what Journalism is all about. Besides, her reporting over the course of her career has been professional.

Great post, ificandream.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
36. So how many articles did she write?
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:45 PM
Feb 2022

You are challenging the idea that she wrote ZERO as in the OP - show us the articles.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
39. Look at the link on the Times site.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 12:23 PM
Feb 2022

[link:https://www.nytimes.com/by/maggie-haberman|]

And I'll say it again ... reporters don't have free reign to write whatever they want. They work under editors. She may not have been assigned to write about Hillary at the time. Why is that so hard to understand? Is this just Bash Maggie? I think it is.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
46. Why is it so hard to understand, indeed.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 05:34 PM
Feb 2022

I'll say it again. Habberman wrote or contributed to 265 articles about Hillary's emails. If she wasn't assigned to write about Hillary at the time, then all the more heinous.

But this has obviously all gone over your head, because you keep repeating the same silly thing.

Good luck to anyone trying to explain it to you any further.



ificandream

(9,387 posts)
47. Bashing her for no reason is a Fawks thing. She hasn't done anything wrong. She exposed Trump.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:20 PM
Feb 2022

Turning this around is a right-wing thing. And it wouldn't surprise me if there's some right-wing dirt behind this thread.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
52. Bashing her for writing two hundred and sixty five articles about Hillary's emails alone
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:48 AM
Feb 2022

and VERY FEW articles about Trump's actual crimes is the EXACT OPPOSITE of right wing.


But please proceed....

niyad

(113,556 posts)
55. First of all, it is "rein", not "reeign". Second, as thee OP clearly states, maggie wrote
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:56 AM
Feb 2022

or contributed to, 265 articles about Hillary. Again, reading comprehension is your friend.

calimary

(81,470 posts)
16. I am SOOOOOOOOO glad this is coming out!
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:12 AM
Feb 2022

Last edited Sat Feb 12, 2022, 03:20 PM - Edit history (2)

Bias, anyone?

Frankly, I sometimes wonder if the motivation here boils down to jealousy.

If any woman was the ”Alpha” of the group, nobody aimed higher than Hillary. I’ve experienced this in a much smaller and more minor realm. Some of the worst potshots and sneakiest sabotage I experienced while I was still working came from other women. You’d think there’d be some sort of sisterhood of mutual support. WRONG! I had one department head warn me about a female colleague who viewed me as “someone she had to knock off.”

I think there was a shit-ton of jealousy and resentment of Hillary Clinton. But nobody can take away from her the FACT that she’ll go down in history in several really remarkable and positive ways. She's a giant of a role model for women and girls everywhere. But her biggest achievement will always be as the first viable major-party presidential candidate who was also FEMALE. The candidate who also got the most votes- let’s NEVER forget that one!

Honestly, the nerve of that woman!

KS Toronado

(17,324 posts)
26. On a related side note, is this true?
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 04:20 PM
Feb 2022

Some DUer mentioned today that FQX has never reported on the 15 boxes of documents retrieved from Mar-Large-Ass.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
28. Nothing more needed to prove she has poor judgement than when she said TFG
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 07:06 PM
Feb 2022

was "charming" in person. Knowing what she and we have long known about him, nothing would cause me to be charmed by him, in person or otherwise.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. But most people have always found him charming in person --
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 12:36 PM
Feb 2022

when he wants to be charming. The truth is what it is. He also reportedly appears intelligent and sensible when he chooses for one audience, while playing a very different character for "my people."

This is something readers need to understand about him in order to understand how he moves in the world.

Hitler was also very charming when he wanted to be; old pictures of him spewing spittle as he ranted at crowds give a very incomplete notion of him.

Notably, it turns out above average percentages of psychopaths are notably charming and charismatic, not all by a long shot but enough that it's a characteristic to look for. For instance in seemingly depraved people who rise to great power.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
61. Ah yes, well, my point urbtjğ1wȘ$"*,,, & *&, ',, &, &, &, &, & ***', *-'
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 09:37 AM
Feb 2022

Darn, I fell asleep while replying to you. I have insomnia & hadn't seen your reply until after I'd finally taken something and began nodding off while proofreading my reply to you. I woke up the next day to find my carefully composed reply gone and the reply title garbled, as seen above.

Anyway, my point was that while charm is a characteristic generally ascribed to people with certain anti-social personality disorders* not everyone is charmed by them.

Some people, either naturally or by experience or training, recognize the "charming" behavior as deceptive and manipulative, and are not charmed by it.

Knowing what I know about "the Donald," nothing he says or does is going to charm me.


*I'm not sure, but I suspect TFG is a malignant narcisstic sociopath (if that's a thing) rather than a psychopath https://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
60. But most people have always found him charming in person --
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 12:36 PM
Feb 2022

when he wants to be charming. The truth is what it is. He also reportedly appears intelligent and sensible when he chooses for one audience, while playing a very different character for "my people."

This is something readers need to understand about him in order to understand how he moves in the world.

Hitler was also very charming when he wanted to be; old pictures of him spewing spittle as he ranted at crowds give a very incomplete notion of him.

Notably, it turns out above average percentages of psychopaths are notably charming and charismatic, not all by a long shot but enough that it's a characteristic to look for. For instance in seemingly depraved people who rise to great power.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
29. That the NYT is considered a "liberal" paper is more evidence
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 07:09 PM
Feb 2022

that belies the "liberal media" bias BS claim by RW hypocrites.

Lunabell

(6,105 posts)
31. Liberal media my ass!
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 08:22 PM
Feb 2022

We only get the information the rich and powerful wsnt us to hear when it comes to corporate owned media.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
37. This report does not surprise me, it's good to have thr numbers. If accurate it confirms
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:50 PM
Feb 2022

observations/speculations as to what she's all about.

She may well be considered and referred to as "professional journalist" by some here, but I reckon there are a fairly large number of people, in the nation, who would strongly disagree.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
41. Reporters get criticized all the time for what they write.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 12:25 PM
Feb 2022

They have professional standards they write to. You won't find them on social media. LOL.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
43. That's Fawks News b.s.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 01:34 PM
Feb 2022

I worked at a daily newspaper for three decades and before social media. Newspapers have strict standards. They are also very quick to criticize themselves. Yes, even today.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
45. Why is it pointless?
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 04:41 PM
Feb 2022

Last edited Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:23 PM - Edit history (1)

I've had experience "debating" lamebrain Fawks news fans and that's the kind of crap they say. And then they back out when their argument turns to mush.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
48. Or when they realize that their efforts are futile.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:15 PM
Feb 2022

Seems I'm not the only one.

And spare us that right wing Fawkes crap.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
51. Don't accuse people of being right wingers here. It's bullshit.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:43 AM
Feb 2022

You keep repeating the same ridiculous thing that Habberman didn't write stories about Hillary because maybe she wasn't assigned to Hillary.

SHE FUCKING WROTE TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE ARTICLES ABOUT HILLARY'S EMAILS ALONE. And Hilary did nothing wrong.

Show me the two hundred and sixty five articles she has written about Trump's actual crimes.


I'll wait right here while you call me a right winger.


MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
56. Is that right?
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 12:00 PM
Feb 2022












Do I really need to go on? Reporters are all over social media.

I have no idea what you are on about in this thread, but I suggest taking a time out to re-read everything.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
57. Why the continual focus on Haberman?
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 12:25 PM
Feb 2022

She wasn't the sole cause of the coverage. The press as a whole let themselves overreact to what Trump was saying rather than forging the coverage for themselves, which is what should have happened. And the image I saw about people believing the worst rumors about Hillary and ignoring (more like bypassing) the facts about Trump is very true.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
58. Because that's what this thread is about. That's how we have discussions on DU.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 12:32 PM
Feb 2022

Why are you so up in arms over people taking her to task?

Go look around DU and you will see plenty of people disappointed in the mainstream media.

In this thread, we are discussing Haberman's bias. And the New York Time's bias.

You can be upset that we are criticizing people in the media, but you don't get to call us right wingers and repeat nonsense and expect us to just ignore that.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,560 posts)
50. OPINION: The NY Times owes Hillary Clinton an apology
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 12:54 AM
Feb 2022

I cancelled my subscription to the NYT due to the unfair coverage of Hillary Clinton. The NYT and Haberman helped elect TFG




“The 2-year frenzy over the emails was a political Rorschach test where everyone saw something different in what was ultimately nothing. Call it sexism, Republican depravity, ratings-hungry media, it’s time we acknowledge it was bullshit, and write that into the history books.” – Hillary Clinton

Back in 2016, their reporter Maggie Haberman amplified the Hillary Clinton conspiracy which Trump campaigned on. I and many other conservatives who supported Trump (including others like me who learned this was a mistake) did our best to get this to the masses to say ‘Hillary Clinton was an irresponsible leader and unfit to be President.’ At the time I was spreading this lie, I didn’t know it was a lie, and the fact that the Times writer amplified it, even more, made us believe we were right and this possibly persuaded undecided electoral voters to pick Trump. Little did I know that I would eventually learn that Hillary Clinton was exonerated of any wrongdoing, and I apologized for my part in spreading this lie.,,,,,

Maggy Haberman and the not-so-liberal media the NY Times owe Hillary Clinton a public apology.

We all owe a thank you to Nick Merill for informing all of us about a disservice to the public emanating from the Old Gray Lady when it suddenly began to betray its motto of publishing “all the news that’s fit to print.”


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