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Nevilledog

(51,219 posts)
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 07:23 PM Feb 2022

WTF?! San Francisco police linked a woman to a crime using DNA from her rape exam



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Demian Bulwa
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BREAKING:

San Francisco police linked a woman to a crime using DNA collected from her past rape exam, according to DA Chesa Boudin

sfchronicle.com
San Francisco police linked a woman to a crime using DNA from her rape exam, D.A. Boudin says
The San Francisco police crime lab has been entering sexual assault victims’ DNA in a...
4:09 PM · Feb 14, 2022


https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/San-Francisco-police-linked-a-woman-to-a-crime-16918673.php

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The San Francisco police crime lab has been entering sexual assault victims’ DNA profiles in a database used to identify suspects in crimes, District Attorney Chesa Boudin said Monday, an allegation that raises legal and ethical questions regarding the privacy rights of victims.

Boudin said his office was made aware of the practice last week, after a woman’s DNA collected years ago as part of a rape exam was used to link her to a recent property crime.

If DNA from a rape kit was used without consent for purposes other than investigating the underlying rape case, it may be a violation of constitutional protections against unreasonable searches and seizures as well as California’s Victims’ Bill of Rights, Boudin said.

Such a practice could also create another deterrent to sexual assault victims coming forward with allegations that are already notoriously under-reported to law enforcement.

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WTF?! San Francisco police linked a woman to a crime using DNA from her rape exam (Original Post) Nevilledog Feb 2022 OP
This seems abusive of the technology????🤔 Deuce Feb 2022 #1
The cruelty is breathtaking. K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #2
I want to know if it was *all* rape victims, or if they selected whose DNA to enter. Nevilledog Feb 2022 #4
Either way it's shit and I can't see how it's not a violation of rights. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #8
I agree with you. Nevilledog Feb 2022 #9
Why would they think that was a good idea? treestar Feb 2022 #3
Just another way to keep women mercuryblues Feb 2022 #5
That was my immediate thought Bettie Feb 2022 #7
Yep nt berniesandersmittens Feb 2022 #15
Yep MustLoveBeagles Feb 2022 #20
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2022 #6
We need names Sympthsical Feb 2022 #10
Jesus obamanut2012 Feb 2022 #11
California state law requires that DNA from rape kits be entered into the system. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #12
Not the victims DNA. boston bean Feb 2022 #13
I'm not sure that's true, based on the text of the law. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #14
CA needs to clarify that only DNA from the RAPIST can be entered, not the victim. Liberty Belle Feb 2022 #17
No disagreement here. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #21
Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, I'm going to address the elephant Karma13612 Feb 2022 #16
That was my thought as well. Hell, we have a nationwide backlog of untested rape kits niyad Feb 2022 #18
Not sure what you mean by, "yet this is what is done." Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #22
Thank you for the clarification. niyad Feb 2022 #24
I was wondering that, too Leith Feb 2022 #19
Whoever authorized this needs to be fired right now. Stinky The Clown Feb 2022 #23
They enter everyone's DNA in a database. Doesn't matter how they collect it. Jacson6 Feb 2022 #25
Hmmm. You understand why putting a rape victim's ... Whiskeytide Feb 2022 #26
Because we live in a misogynist society while every pretends otherwise and explains to us LizBeth Feb 2022 #27
that is fucked up beyond belief Kali Feb 2022 #28

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. Why would they think that was a good idea?
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 07:38 PM
Feb 2022

Uploading the DNA into the database? That should be prohibited if that's how they collected the DNA.

Bettie

(16,132 posts)
7. That was my immediate thought
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 07:55 PM
Feb 2022

they want women to just shut up about being raped and certainly never report it. Ever.

Sympthsical

(9,132 posts)
10. We need names
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:12 PM
Feb 2022

Actual names of people who concocted, proposed, and enacted the policy. This is breathtaking in its violation of rights.

I do not want this fobbed off onto some vague, amorphous bureaucratic entity, where no one is held responsible for some poor decision they just didn't think through. No no. I do not want some, "Gee willicker, we were just trying to be helpful," excuse, and no one sees consequences.

Names. These people, if they are still present, need to be removed from government. If they think this is what government power is and what it is entitled to, they need to be gone.

This isn't a mistake. This is a mindset. If they think this horror is a good idea, they won't stop there.

Jedi Guy

(3,260 posts)
12. California state law requires that DNA from rape kits be entered into the system.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:20 PM
Feb 2022

SB 22 (2019-2020 session) went into effect on January 1, 2020, and requires that all SAE (sexual assault evidence) kits have associated DNA uploaded to CODIS (Combined DNA Index System) in a timely manner. Once it's in there, any search for any reason that matches will return a hit, regardless of why the DNA was originally entered.

Seems like an unintended consequence of SB 22.

Jedi Guy

(3,260 posts)
14. I'm not sure that's true, based on the text of the law.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:37 PM
Feb 2022
(2) The crime lab shall do one of the following for any sexual assault forensic evidence received by the crime lab on or after January 1, 2016.
(A) Process sexual assault forensic evidence, create DNA profiles when able, and upload qualifying DNA profiles into CODIS as soon as practically possible, but no later than 120 days after initially receiving the evidence.

That seems to be the relevant bit of the law, and as you can see, it just says "create DNA profiles when able, and upload qualifying DNA profiles into CODIS." Nor does it say the victim's DNA isn't to be uploaded into CODIS.

So like I said, this seems to be an unintended consequence of the way the law is written.

Liberty Belle

(9,538 posts)
17. CA needs to clarify that only DNA from the RAPIST can be entered, not the victim.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 10:13 PM
Feb 2022

That would solve this problem.

Jedi Guy

(3,260 posts)
21. No disagreement here.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 10:32 PM
Feb 2022

Just saying, that's not how the law is currently worded, and now here we are. I'm guessing the legislature probably didn't foresee this happening.

Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
16. Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, I'm going to address the elephant
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 09:56 PM
Feb 2022

In the room:

Has there been a prosecution of the rapist? Did they even bother to pursue the original reason for collecting the rape kit?

Jesus.

There are so many things broken in this country, I can’t even fathom it all.

On a happy note, hubby and I had lunch outside at a local seafood restaurant, right on the beach in Emerald Isle North Carolina. We were the only diners who braved the lower 50’s chilly sunny day with a brisk breeze forcing us to keep our jackets on. Delicious and fun. Our ‘surfer dude’ waiter was delightful as was the little black-n-white cat who quickly made friends with us.

Happy Valentines Day everyone! And thanks for the hearts I have accumulated over the course of this week! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

niyad

(113,602 posts)
18. That was my thought as well. Hell, we have a nationwide backlog of untested rape kits
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 10:13 PM
Feb 2022

yet this is what is done.

Happy Valentine's Day.

Jedi Guy

(3,260 posts)
22. Not sure what you mean by, "yet this is what is done."
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 10:57 PM
Feb 2022

This is the consequence of a law that was created because of the nationwide backlog of rape kits. It was created specifically to ensure that information garnered via those kits was processed and entered in a timely fashion. All the data goes into a database so if a match is found later, it'll result in a hit.

That's all that happened here. This wasn't and isn't some sort of conspiracy against this woman in particular or women in general on the part of law enforcement or the state of California. The law is written in such a way that it doesn't specify that only the rapist's DNA goes in. So the lab dutifully entered the data, and then this woman's DNA was gathered from the scene of a different crime, processed, and resulted in a hit.

In just about any major police department, property crimes and sex crimes are handled by different units staffed by different officers. So the officers dealing with the property crime case had absolutely no way of knowing that they'd get a hit on DNA from a rape kit.

This is an example of the law of unintended consequences rather than evidence of malice on the part of any of the actors involved.

Stinky The Clown

(67,828 posts)
23. Whoever authorized this needs to be fired right now.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:06 PM
Feb 2022

Whoever thought it up needs to be reprimanded in some way.

Jacson6

(354 posts)
25. They enter everyone's DNA in a database. Doesn't matter how they collect it.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:15 PM
Feb 2022

She is entitled to a fair trial just like everyone else.

Whiskeytide

(4,463 posts)
26. Hmmm. You understand why putting a rape victim's ...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:32 PM
Feb 2022

… DNA in CODIS is likely to silence women, right? The convenience for LE is not worth that. This is a very bad idea.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
27. Because we live in a misogynist society while every pretends otherwise and explains to us
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:41 PM
Feb 2022

how this is not the case. This sickens me.

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