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Did Biden avert a war? (Original Post) edhopper Feb 2022 OP
Mastermind - cilla4progress Feb 2022 #1
So that is a no edhopper Feb 2022 #4
If in fact it's averted, he darn sure deserves credit. Hoyt Feb 2022 #2
+1 Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #15
#1 - probably yes relayerbob Feb 2022 #3
Don't count any chickens yet. The White House said the threat is still there Tetrachloride Feb 2022 #5
Why I posed it edhopper Feb 2022 #7
Of course they did...but I do think and really hope that they fixed Putin's ass. Biden has years Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #21
👍 Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #6
Biden deserves a lot of credit.. Deuxcents Feb 2022 #8
Last I read looks like cyber attacks have begun and troops getting into battle positions. Brainfodder Feb 2022 #9
Bob Woodward BGBD Feb 2022 #10
whether averted or not - Biden played the best hand he could stopdiggin Feb 2022 #11
No one knows yet qazplm135 Feb 2022 #12
More like delayed it as Putin is unlikely to give up on the money he stands to earn cstanleytech Feb 2022 #13
Too soon to say IMO. Raine Feb 2022 #14
I told someone yesterday, Biden's a pro at this ms liberty Feb 2022 #16
Did something happen while I slept? Emile Feb 2022 #17
Russia annonced edhopper Feb 2022 #19
There was a discussion of this on MSNBC Deminpenn Feb 2022 #18
Still depends on Putin. It's still his choice to go in or back off...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #20

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
1. Mastermind -
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 11:54 PM
Feb 2022

I'm betting on him.

And credit? Only for those with an ounce of intelligence, awareness, and conscience.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
3. #1 - probably yes
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 11:54 PM
Feb 2022

#2 - Likely not, but only a little, since they'll want to do it again
#3 - Of course not

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
21. Of course they did...but I do think and really hope that they fixed Putin's ass. Biden has years
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 11:17 AM
Feb 2022

of experience. And we all know the FMG would have let Putin have Ukraine.

Deuxcents

(16,248 posts)
8. Biden deserves a lot of credit..
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:12 AM
Feb 2022

He was instrumental in getting NATO to trust us after tfg damn near destroyed our reputation. He helped to form a strong n United alliance against an evil foe. This was on his terms n I hope Putin goes home n realizes tfg is no longer relevant.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
9. Last I read looks like cyber attacks have begun and troops getting into battle positions.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:17 AM
Feb 2022

Biden gets to look good once Putin is a pile of hard to recognize mush?



 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
10. Bob Woodward
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:18 AM
Feb 2022

will probably write a book about it that'll come out in like a year and a half or something.

Whatever happened, it'll eventually come out.

stopdiggin

(11,317 posts)
11. whether averted or not - Biden played the best hand he could
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:38 AM
Feb 2022

with a fire hose of sustained alarms, warning and media attention - insisting on very blunt terms and assessments (as opposed to soft pedaling diplomacy favored elsewhere) - releasing intelligence with strategic intent - and stoking a fire underneath both allies and the global community.

I'm not sure what else was available, beyond direct actions against Russia.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
12. No one knows yet
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 02:43 AM
Feb 2022

ultimately Putin could back down, or attack, or keep the pressure on and then back down or attack a week, month or year from now.

Biden has done all he can, which is all he can do. Unfortunately, the gun is in Putin's hands, he gets to decide whether to shoot or not.

What Biden has done is make sure that if he does shoot, it's going to hurt him as much as possible.

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
13. More like delayed it as Putin is unlikely to give up on the money he stands to earn
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 02:44 AM
Feb 2022

for himself by running oil and gas pipelines through the Ukraine.

ms liberty

(8,580 posts)
16. I told someone yesterday, Biden's a pro at this
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 07:01 AM
Feb 2022

He was on the Foreign Relations committee, and was a Senator forever and VP for 8. He's not going to panic or freak out at Putin maneuvering, he's been watching Soviets play games for 50 years. Remember that this is the guy who at one time wanted to be Sec State.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
19. Russia annonced
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 11:12 AM
Feb 2022

it was withdrawing some troops. Hopeful signal they will not invade. Still a tense situation,

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
18. There was a discussion of this on MSNBC
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 07:27 AM
Feb 2022

yesterday. One of the guests noted how well Biden's played a bad hand. The guest thought that the decision to declassify and announce everything Putin was going to do ahead of time really threw Putin off-guard and "took control of the narrative" away from Russia. When you think about it, it's quite a clever strategy.

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