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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmelia Earhart's letter to George Putnam, setting out terms for marriage, 1931
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Fascinating
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)PCIntern
(25,556 posts)Lotsa reading between the lines. Glad I wasnt her (or his) therapist.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,357 posts)PCIntern
(25,556 posts)calimary
(81,321 posts)meadowlander
(4,397 posts)At least she's being honest about what she needs.
PCIntern
(25,556 posts)Thats why she needs a therapist: to deal with the unhealthy.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)strayed nor would I stray. However, she is quite remarkable for her time.
brush
(53,787 posts)PatSeg
(47,501 posts)He was like her manager. A combination of love and expediency.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)WarGamer
(12,449 posts)chia
(2,244 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 16, 2022, 05:10 PM - Edit history (1)
much courage when trueness colors outside the lines society draws. If her beloved was agreeable to her terms, whose business was it but theirs?
LoveMyCali
(2,015 posts)why even bother getting married?
calimary
(81,321 posts)For example, what kind of marriage? The traditional kind or a more personal version.
Not everything is one-size-fits-all.
chia
(2,244 posts)against fornication and adultery. So historically, it was either marriage or spinsterhood for women, and it seems, from that letter, that she was weighing her odds and options.
Chainfire
(17,549 posts)You would think that an informal relationship would have suited her needs better.
Ms. Toad
(34,075 posts)4 decades later, I was still not entitled to a credit card unless a man sponsored it.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)After filing for divorce, a department store declined my card and explained that my husband had canceled it. The thing is, he never had anything at all to do with that card. I worked, it was in my name, and paid by me. BUT the department store guy expected ME to pay off the balance, $50 or so. I refused. I told him that if it's not my card, he can go to the owner for payment.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)wherever you may be.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Im not sure what she means by that statement.
mathematic
(1,439 posts)She's saying that she doesn't care if he sleeps around because, hey, she's gonna do it.
These days we say she'll marry him if he agrees to an open marriage.
TheRickles
(2,065 posts)FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)I agree that this is a private transaction between two people. George Putnam may have responded verbally but we'll never know.
Silent3
(15,230 posts)...than some people apparently do?
SYFROYH
(34,172 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)original copy of the Declaration of Independence for 4.4 million. Its what called a broadside it isnt a signed one but a copy of the original that went out to the colonies and were nailed to say tavern walls for people to read. I think maybe 12 or so exist, Im not sure. I didnt realize that the signed DOI in Philadelphia is a commemorative copy that the delegates signed as the original would have been sent to the king. They are a very rich and philanthropic family and will display it for the public. Pretty cool.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Her marriage to Putnam was a business relationship between friends and associates. They both knew what was what.
Farmer-Rick
(10,185 posts)She was gay and it sounds like she wants an open marriage.
Very cool letter. What an interesting person.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Submariner
(12,504 posts)She was ahead of her time, and If only she was born later they could have been a heck of a dating pair.
bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)because the faithfulness, it ain't there for a lotta peoples.
heckles65
(549 posts)I agree - but both parties are long gone, so that any harm is minimal. This just confirms what I always thought of the woman - she might have played up to contemporary expectations but she was definitely her own person.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)She was, apparently, a woman who demanded to be herself. She would agree to marry, but only under conditions she could live with. Good for her. Why not?
She made no false presentations, nor did she shy away from some decidedly unconventional things in that time.
He was her own person, and would not brook being anything else for anybody.
Such agreements are certainly more common now than then, but even now most people leave much unsaid and unagreed when they marry. More's the pity.
I would have liked to know her. She would have had my complete respect.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)However, in my house, I do the laundry. My wife and I have agreed on that. My office is on the lower level, at our current home and was at our previous home. The laundry equipment is also on that level. So, it makes sense that I do that mundane task. It's more convenient for me to do it, since I'm near the equipment.
I also fold the clothes and put them where they belong. However my wife has a very particular system for hanging her clothing in the closet, so she does that herself.
We have agreements about most household chores. I do the cooking and cleanup and handle all household repairs and outdoor tasks. She does the vacuuming and other cleaning. Unless there is a reasonable need for one of us to handle the other person's chores, we stick to those agreements.
We have agreements about things. We are reasonable people.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)are all over this. Neither of them concerned themselves with domestic chores beyond hiring others to do them.
The laundry part must be nice. I wouldn't know.
IzzaNuDay
(362 posts)She knew the pressures of being a traditional married woman of that day. She wanted marriage on her own terms. Good for her!
soldierant
(6,890 posts)said (and I paraphraseanything not in quotes) that marriage was a very individual thing, and no one who was not a partner in any given marriage had any right to judge, "not even a child of that marriage."
No children here, but that was such a strong opinion that it stuck in my mind I think but won't guarantee the statement was in "Five Little Pigs" (which had more than one title.)