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(7,342 posts)Floyd R. Turbo
(26,610 posts)Beachnutt
(7,342 posts)and got pulled over for having an air freshener on his mirror...
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,610 posts)lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)some lives matter, some lives don't, apparently
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,610 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)matter at all, even for them? Especially for them?
Is it completely coincidental that what some here "believe" demands more severe vengeance? In nicer times, might people be nicer? If there were fewer extremists given to extreme, angry reactions and taking extreme positions on everything, might notions of what constitutes justice on this thread be very different?
How about if the races were reversed, Floyd? If the black community was insisting that prosecuting her at all was lynching for being a cop while black, would that change the evidence even slightly?
(I hope everyone agrees it wouldn't make any difference at all.)
Could some be seeing this white cop as guilty for all the crimes of the white race and thus that prosecuting her for her own action alone really just 850M white people still getting away with centuries of murder?
What going on here? This is DU, not Tucker Carlson's Twitter feed. We should be passionately committed to the truth and nothing but the truth, whatever it is, messy and incomplete as we can determine it to be.
Here's some truth: The judge who weighed this at length came to believes it was a tragic accident and gave a sentence appropriate to criminal negligence, which comes on top of all the consequences that have already devastated this other life. Case closed, and for the justice system to work requires accepting ethical decisions we don't like, just as elections require accepting those imperfect results.
Beachnutt
(7,342 posts)shoot him with a gun so she got 16 months
Daunte Wright made a mistake by putting an air freshener on his mirror and he got death.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)The air freshener was a bull shit reason for pulling him over, but he tried to run because of the warrant.
mvd
(65,180 posts)I think Chauvin could have gotten even more - live without parole. I believe cops should not be treated more leniently. Here, I would have been fine with the average. The judge just didnt seem like she wasnt taking things seriously.
RobertMcNamara
(15 posts)He was also pulled over for an expired registration tag decal.
They found out about his warrant after the ,pull over and proceeded with the arrest he eventually resisted, and he attempted to flee with force.
lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)the this POS COP "made a mistake" and was going to use a taser instead of a gun.
The COP was very experienced in using taser and gun... I don't believe she made a "mistake". I think she intended to shoot Dante for being "uppity".
16 months (14 with time served) is not enough,
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,610 posts)Beachnutt
(7,342 posts)and I mistaked my gas pedal for my brake and run over someone and then go cry to the judge that I am a responsible citizen and only made a mistake would I get 16 months in jail ?
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,610 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)a tragic mistake, YES.
Yes. And that's as it should be.
One reason we have to have courts is so that mobs can't take charming murderers out for congratulatory drinks and tear accidental killers they don't like to pieces.
mvd
(65,180 posts)The Floyd cops deserved a high sentence and I think this judge made a case for going lower. But probation would have been not realizing the seriousness of the cops error.
lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)is FIVE years... The state asked for SEVEN years.
She got 16 months... 1 year and 4 months, with 2 months off for time served.
mvd
(65,180 posts)any agenda here. The case obviously affected her. So Im giving her some leeway in my reaction.
Beachnutt
(7,342 posts)man didn,'t effect her much though..
mvd
(65,180 posts)Definitely can disagree with the decision, however.
lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)direct quote from the judge...
only in this case, Dante did NOT have a gun, did not threaten anyone, and was pulled over for a minor traffic violation because THIS COP was showing off (aka training) a junior officer. She shot him by pulling her service revolver (kept on a different side than the taser).
The taser weighs much different than the gun. The taser is brightly colored on the barrel (unlike the gun) and the trigger has a different feel than a gun trigger.
She was the training officer.
I think she knew full well that she was using her gun.
She didn't like Dante's lack of "respect" or his attitude about being pulled over for having an air freshener attached to his rear view mirror.
She saw him as an "uppity" n***gr and wasn't going to stand for it...
jimfields33
(15,969 posts)lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Ive been stopped for an expired tag. I didnt run.
I didnt have any warrants on me either.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)Both sides will hate this sentence, I predict.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Guess not?
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,610 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Her lawyer made me sick with his whining.
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,610 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Floyd R. Turbo
(26,610 posts)counter to mine.
mvd
(65,180 posts)There is a case that the recklessness alone could have brought it up to the average sentence.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... was a white women he killed and he was black he got the max sentence and it was taken back later because the prosecution overplayed their hand.
Only for white people
madville
(7,412 posts)She seemed extremely distraught immediately when it happened and her partner got possession of her gun so she wouldnt commit suicide on the spot.
mvd
(65,180 posts)at least she has shown remorse. But the cops handled it badly from the start. If I was the judge, I cant be sure but I think I would hand down the average sentence. The judge did seem thoughtful and reasoned, however.
Vinca
(50,308 posts)roamed the earth, I know how fast things can go to hell in a situation and how mistakes can be made. I think the sentence she got was appropriate. It was negligence and not malice that killed that poor fellow - the polar opposite of Derek Chauvin.
sarisataka
(18,774 posts)But accidents have consequences.
Raine
(30,540 posts)Bettie
(16,126 posts)about what I expected to see. Wonder if "time served" will make it so that she just gets to go free now.
lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)14 months in prison for 16 month sentence... with the possibility of more time off for good behavior.
Followed by 8 months of probation.
sarisataka
(18,774 posts)Former Brooklyn Center officer Kimberly Potter has been sentenced to two years (24 months) in prison in connection to the death of Daunte Wright. She will have to serve two-thirds (16 months) of that in prison before getting supervised release, and she received credit for 58 days already served.
Potter was convicted of first-degree manslaughter in December after fatally shooting Wright during an April 11, 2021 traffic stop.
His life counted, his life mattered, Minnesota Assistant Attorney General Matthew Frank said before Potters sentence was handed down Friday morning. And that life was taken. And the law recognizes the severity of the loss of life when setting criminal penalties.
Prosecutors pushed for the presumptive sentence, which is just over seven years, after initially seeking an upward departure. Potters attorneys, citing her good record, asked for probation.
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,610 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)I watched the video and she was out of her mind after she shot this kid. She knew she made horrible mistake. She really did not know she grabbed her pistol instead of the taser. I don't know how she could make that mistake, but she did. Is sixteen months enough?
I believe she should have gotten a little longer sentence because she was negligent and it cost someone their life. 3 to 7 sentence would have been better.
mvd
(65,180 posts)I see what the judge was saying. But I personally think gross negligence resulting in death could have gotten the average sentence.
dsc
(52,166 posts)Fifth-Degree Possession Crimes
Any amount of a Schedule I, II, III, or IV drug, except 42.5 grams or less of marijuana
Attempt to acquire, possession, or control over a controlled substance through fraud or misrepresentation, using a false name, or falsely representing a physician
Penalties Up to 5 years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines.
the above is the penalty in MN for that.