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Tommy Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 05:19 PM Feb 2022

We really do live in a stupid timeline, don't we?

First, we're told that Nancy Pelosi was responsible for the invasion of the US Capitol by violent Trump supporters, disrupting the certification of the election of her fellow Democrat Joe Biden as President and shouting threats of harm against...Nancy Pelosi.

Now, we're being told that Ukraine is attempting to provoke its own invasion by Russia.

Disinformation really is a funny little creature, isn't it? Impervious to all logic.

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We really do live in a stupid timeline, don't we? (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Feb 2022 OP
and propaganda has been skillfully used nefariously for as long as we've been around NewHendoLib Feb 2022 #1
The difference is that the right wing media has taken a 180 on Russia since Trump. Claustrum Feb 2022 #6
Yes, and I'm getting very close to being over the human race. Boomerproud Feb 2022 #2
Already beat you to that destination... Moostache Feb 2022 #9
And I beat you. I had hoped that whatever intelligent forces were out there in the niyad Feb 2022 #19
IT'S SO SAD ! lookyhereyou Feb 2022 #23
Ever Since The Cubs Won The Series, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2022 #3
I was just thinking that myself. Tommy Carcetti Feb 2022 #4
yeah I remain envious of the folks over there in the real timeline where Hillary is President yellowdogintexas Feb 2022 #10
a little less than a year ago, Covid had already mutated over 12,700 times, likely over 20,000 now Celerity Feb 2022 #16
I blame this timeline ymetca Feb 2022 #26
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! !!!! HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #8
Yeah, unfortunately Metaphorical Feb 2022 #5
As another DU thread days ago warned, Hav Feb 2022 #7
In an age with excellent satellite imagery, bluffing means putting everything on the ground too. Pobeka Feb 2022 #11
☝☝☝THIS!!!👍👍👍 ShazzieB Feb 2022 #13
+1, Putin lost the benefit of the doubt when he attacked and annexed Crimea. uponit7771 Feb 2022 #17
"Ukraine" is a Ukranian word meaning "Grand Duchy of Fenwick" JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2022 #12
you nearly owed me a keyboard. niyad Feb 2022 #21
It's Newspeak run amok! BobTheSubgenius Feb 2022 #14
First we had the Silent Majority, then the Moral Majority, now it's the Stupid Majority. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #15
Just today I spoke to a client that believes Roc2020 Feb 2022 #18
they're blaming Ukraine? Skittles Feb 2022 #20
That comes on the Sunday blathersphere. niyad Feb 2022 #22
That's pure stupidity beyond disinfo. Sadly culpable live love laugh Feb 2022 #24
Ukraine is committing genocide... lame54 Feb 2022 #25

NewHendoLib

(60,013 posts)
1. and propaganda has been skillfully used nefariously for as long as we've been around
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 05:26 PM
Feb 2022

What is remarkable is how many fall for it. I think it is a feature, not a bug - a dangerous one.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
6. The difference is that the right wing media has taken a 180 on Russia since Trump.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 06:10 PM
Feb 2022

In the past, both parties would be condemning such invasion. I don't know what timeline or why we live in this timeline. But somehow, one US major political party is approving and egging on Russia to invade Ukraine. It's really mind boggling.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
9. Already beat you to that destination...
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 06:54 PM
Feb 2022

Homo Sapiens was always destined for extinction, its no secret that 99.9% of ALL species ever to live are already extinct, so our ultimate fate was sealed billions of years ago.

I had just hoped we'd hang on long enough for me to avoid having to witness the terrible destruction we are going to cause on the way out.

niyad

(113,141 posts)
19. And I beat you. I had hoped that whatever intelligent forces were out there in the
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 08:22 PM
Feb 2022

multiverse would come in and say, "since you cannot play nice with each other, we are going to take all of your toys away until you do learn." I have since come to the conclusion that the intelligent life out there has decided that we are hopeless, and washed their hands of us.

lookyhereyou

(140 posts)
23. IT'S SO SAD !
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 08:59 PM
Feb 2022

AND BEYOND WORDS THAT WE GREEDY UNSUSTAINABLE SELFISH FOR PROFIT IDIOTS WILL TAKE DOWN SO MANY OTHER BEAUTIFUL NON GUILTY SPECIES IN OUR MINDLESS RUSH TO BURN ALL
THE OIL / COAL ETC. FOR SHORT SIGHTED "GAIN / PROGRESS "??????? WITH NO THOUGHT OF EVEN OUR OWN FUTURE GENERATIONS . BUT IT'S THE DIVERSITY OF CREATURES AND MICRO / MACRO ENDOWMENTS THAT WE ARE DESTROYING THAT DEPRESSES / DISTRESSES ME THE MOST WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET I ONLY WISH IT WOULD BE SOONER FOR THE SAKE OF ALL THE OTHER PRECIOUS UNIQUE WONDROUS ELEMENTS OF THIS GARDEN OF EDEN. WE DON'T SEEM TO BE TO BE TURNING THIS SHIP AT A MEANINGFUL RATE. rant off

Tommy Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
4. I was just thinking that myself.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 05:47 PM
Feb 2022

A portal to a terrible alternate timeline was opened around November 2016.

yellowdogintexas

(22,235 posts)
10. yeah I remain envious of the folks over there in the real timeline where Hillary is President
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 06:59 PM
Feb 2022

and Covid has not mutated 4 times.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
26. I blame this timeline
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 11:05 PM
Feb 2022

on Emperor Constantine.

Or possibly Akhenaten?

It all went off the rails somewhere about then.

Metaphorical

(1,602 posts)
5. Yeah, unfortunately
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 06:08 PM
Feb 2022

The timeline that saw the future of humanity making its way out to the stars branched off about October 27th, 2016. In that timeline, FBI Director Comey decided that he didn't feel he had enough evidence to report to Congress about Clinton's emails, and shut the investigation down. In that timeline, the slight dip in Clinton's numbers never happened, and she squeaked by in an electoral college win a week later. Despite intense opposition from the GOP and even some in her own party, Clinton proved a remarkably able President, winning a much stronger second term even after dealing with the fallout from Covid-19, even as the far right all but went extinct.

Sadly, that was the other leg of the trousers.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
7. As another DU thread days ago warned,
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 06:14 PM
Feb 2022

there'll be much disinformation from both sides.
But whatever anyone may claim about the West or Ukraine being hawkish, no one is making Russia amass all those troops around Ukraine. Russia is the obvious aggressor, no one forces them to invade another country...again and again.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
11. In an age with excellent satellite imagery, bluffing means putting everything on the ground too.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 07:21 PM
Feb 2022

If you are bluffing, but don't put enough forces, and support for those forces on the ground, the satellite will show it, and your bluff is useless.

I'm not saying Putin is bluffing or not, just that the "show" is going to look the same now whether it's a bluff or intended action.

Putin does have an objective, and I suspect part of it is to continue driving division in the USA after his lackey, TFG. made serious headway on that front.

ShazzieB

(16,321 posts)
13. ☝☝☝THIS!!!👍👍👍
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 07:29 PM
Feb 2022

In fact, I'll repeat this part, with added emphasis:

But whatever anyone may claim about the West or Ukraine being hawkish, no one is making Russia amass all those troops around Ukraine. Russia is the obvious aggressor, no one forces them to invade another country...again and again.


This cannot be said too many times, especially as some still do not seem to get it:

RUSSIA. IS. THE. OBVIOUS. AGGRESSOR.

Nothing... I repeat, NOTHING... the U.S. may have done in the past makes what Putin is doing now even almost okay.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
15. First we had the Silent Majority, then the Moral Majority, now it's the Stupid Majority.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 07:33 PM
Feb 2022

And none of them were ever near a majority.

Roc2020

(1,613 posts)
18. Just today I spoke to a client that believes
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 08:00 PM
Feb 2022

Pelosi is responsible for jan.6th. if Biden can stop mexican avocados he can stop humans crossing the border. And Biden wants Russia to invade. I tried to gently steer the convo back to business. Trump FOX and the GOP has deceived millions.

lame54

(35,273 posts)
25. Ukraine is committing genocide...
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 10:46 PM
Feb 2022

But they waited till Putin surrounded them with 190,000 troops

Yeah, that makes sense

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