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Duncanpup

(12,860 posts)
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:37 AM Feb 2022

As a 35 year teamster truck driver to all those owner ops planning on protesting in dc

🖕off you stupid bastards you’ll strike over non existing vaccine mandates , yet you never strike for better hours service or higher wages dummies slaves on the plantation of trucking yesum boss trump.

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As a 35 year teamster truck driver to all those owner ops planning on protesting in dc (Original Post) Duncanpup Feb 2022 OP
Republicans have perfected the art of deflecting the anger of their uneducated constituents Walleye Feb 2022 #1
If they didn't have cognitive dissonance, they'd have no cognitive abilities at all. Probatim Feb 2022 #21
Damn that's true Walleye Feb 2022 #22
I read it out loud to my wife last night and couldn't stop laughing. Probatim Feb 2022 #25
Ex truck driver, I had the same thought Pompoy Feb 2022 #2
But wait! If they struck for better working conditions and wages, wouldn't that be Socialism? Chainfire Feb 2022 #3
"the power of big money to influence small minds." !! FailureToCommunicate Feb 2022 #14
Yes,I like that phrase Walleye Feb 2022 #23
Make that at least 3 of us like that phrase. KPN Feb 2022 #32
Thank you, thank you very much. Chainfire Feb 2022 #49
What's really holding them back TheFarseer Feb 2022 #20
..."so they can make us gay..." BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #33
It's a mock right wing rant TheFarseer Feb 2022 #34
True that. Beartracks Feb 2022 #46
I just ran the numbers, and have determined that in every trucker's shift, Rabrrrrrr Feb 2022 #39
LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #42
That just might need to be my tag line now! Karma13612 Feb 2022 #35
That is the power of effective messaging. CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #47
It'd be great to find out who is funding these guys. panader0 Feb 2022 #4
Exactly! 2naSalit Feb 2022 #9
This may answer some of those questions... Pachamama Feb 2022 #11
And this is also another little tid-bit Karma13612 Feb 2022 #37
K & R . . . Lovie777 Feb 2022 #5
Not a trucker but a former USWA member EYESORE 9001 Feb 2022 #6
An Excellent Point! And well stated in your way. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #7
Why aren't they hauling goods to help with the supply chain problems ? rickford66 Feb 2022 #8
Because they see themselves... 2naSalit Feb 2022 #10
The people behind this don't care about vaccine mandates, they only want to create chaos. sop Feb 2022 #12
Yes, part of a growing dangerous anti-establishment populist movement. Hortensis Feb 2022 #27
Paying people in Bitcoin is a tell. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #13
Don't most owner-operators have huge loans Voltaire2 Feb 2022 #15
Not all owner operators are steering wheel holders, but many are. The Emile Feb 2022 #16
DC should take measures to prevent trucks from being used as weapons against their city. Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2022 #17
The beginning gathering point was moved from Barstow to Adelanto Hortensis Feb 2022 #28
Yea, make them all stop at the weight-stations. Karma13612 Feb 2022 #40
The vast majority of weigh stations don't even have us stop on the scales anymore, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #44
THANK YOU! Karma13612 Feb 2022 #51
And thank you for asking these important questions, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #52
Oh, now THAT is a bee-utiful looking rig!!!!!!! Eom Karma13612 Feb 2022 #53
Also there are a lot of immigrant folks Beachnutt Feb 2022 #18
Hit on the big thing, there, Beachnutt. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #24
KICK orangecrush Feb 2022 #19
The blue states should open the scale houses Beachnutt Feb 2022 #26
I bet They are getting paid to do this relayerbob Feb 2022 #29
Why would an owner operator strike for better hours or higher wages? FBaggins Feb 2022 #30
We all work for someone. Emile Feb 2022 #31
... MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #36
Certainly you become to some extent their employee FBaggins Feb 2022 #43
And while you're fucking around he'll steal all your loads... Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #38
+100. MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #41
I hate driving the DC beltway with a passion. halfulglas Feb 2022 #45
Kick and Bloody R! Cha Feb 2022 #48
They are a mass movement in their own small minds Warpy Feb 2022 #50

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
1. Republicans have perfected the art of deflecting the anger of their uneducated constituents
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:40 AM
Feb 2022

The one thing these people have in common is ignorance

Probatim

(2,529 posts)
21. If they didn't have cognitive dissonance, they'd have no cognitive abilities at all.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:27 AM
Feb 2022

I stole that from Reddit - and it sums up these bumblef*cks in one sentence.

Probatim

(2,529 posts)
25. I read it out loud to my wife last night and couldn't stop laughing.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:37 AM
Feb 2022

Might have to put it on a t-shirt.

Pompoy

(123 posts)
2. Ex truck driver, I had the same thought
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:41 AM
Feb 2022

I remember all the complaining and talk about how they could stop the country if they acted together, but they never acted for better wages, unionizing, better conditions and respect.
But a vaccine? What tools.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
3. But wait! If they struck for better working conditions and wages, wouldn't that be Socialism?
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:46 AM
Feb 2022

That is the power of big money to influence small minds.

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
20. What's really holding them back
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:25 AM
Feb 2022

is those regulations about how much they can drive. If they could drive twice as much, they could make twice as much money and then they wouldn't be poor anymore. Why can't truckers drive 20 hours a day? Nanny state Bull S#!t and it's these damn Lie-berals that want to keep truckers poor so they can make us gay. Also - tax gouging and abortion!

Rabrrrrrr

(58,349 posts)
39. I just ran the numbers, and have determined that in every trucker's shift,
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:36 AM
Feb 2022

the taxes they pay on their wages for an 8-hour shift provides Planned Parenthood with enough money to perform over 120 abortions - and not only is every trucker paying for 120 abortions per shift, that money isn't even going to middle or upper class women! They're killing babies AND having their money stolen to give it to the unworthy poor!

I have no citations because I work at FOX. Trust me. I've done a lot of research and math in the last 3 minutes. This is easily as verifiable as all the democrats eating babies in their sex trafficking pizzerias, and Hillary's emails!

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
42. LOL.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:46 AM
Feb 2022

Spoken just like a true Faux reporter.

Careful now, someone at Faux may see your post and offer you a job thinking your Faux material, you know, a serial liar.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
4. It'd be great to find out who is funding these guys.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:48 AM
Feb 2022

A good friend has a trucker brother and he had to hustle to make money, rarely getting time off.
How do they take weeks off to protest? Are they all independent? Who do they drive for? The
financial backing needs to be exposed. Is some of it coming from overseas?

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
9. Exactly!
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:55 AM
Feb 2022

An empty trailer costs you money whether it's rolling or sitting still. If there's no trailer attached, the tractor is very expensive. There probably will be rely runs where some drivers will participate for portions of the route. What's really going to mess with a lot of them is the weather. Big arctic air mass descending from the north will be putting middle US in the deep freeze for a few days during their run, That could eliminate a lot of participation. Now if there was a big blizzard too, could really dash their plans.

EYESORE 9001

(25,942 posts)
6. Not a trucker but a former USWA member
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:50 AM
Feb 2022

Back in the day, I told my brothers and sisters that union members voting for Reagan was like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders. I see that nothing has changed where it comes to some people acting against their own interests.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
10. Because they see themselves...
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:56 AM
Feb 2022

As serving their interests by messing up the supply chain to make the president look bad.

sop

(10,193 posts)
12. The people behind this don't care about vaccine mandates, they only want to create chaos.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:58 AM
Feb 2022

Tools indeed.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Yes, part of a growing dangerous anti-establishment populist movement.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:42 AM
Feb 2022

Not to blame Putin for it all, because many huge factors go into growing aggressive populist antagonisms into movements and then combining them into a nation-destroying monster, but:

In 2016 American populist movements, LW class warfare and RW white nationalist, were both used by Russia and domestic plotters to help elect tRump and devastate Democratic Party resistance.

After that great success, our intelligence services warned that Putin himself said his next step would be to unite and grow U.S. populists into one big movement of the kind that destroys nations. We're seeing that anti-establishment/anti-institutionalist/anti-democratic movement form.

Crucial to understanding populism, though leaders always wave ideological flags, the aggressive types who rally to them characteristically far less motivated by ideology than by a range of high-fuel negative emotions that blame "the establishment" for excuses to attack and destroy. Covid disruptions of course.

It also explains the lack of decency and morality, how they can demand freedom while spreading disease into a national holocaust. This is populism.

Btw, tRump's new social media platform is supposed to launch TODAY, in time for this populist exercise. The app has been available for download over the weekend.

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)
15. Don't most owner-operators have huge loans
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:25 AM
Feb 2022

to finance their rigs?

I’m going to go way out on a limb here and predict a giant nothing burger of a protest, along with expansive 24/7 hysteria from the media.

Emile

(22,789 posts)
16. Not all owner operators are steering wheel holders, but many are. The
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:35 AM
Feb 2022

majority of them have to keep their rigs moving in order to make truck payments, insurance costs, road taxes, fuel, etc etc. Most are working under contracts to an employer and have scheduled loads to deliver. So I look for this so called threat as a big nothing burger!

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
17. DC should take measures to prevent trucks from being used as weapons against their city.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 09:51 AM
Feb 2022

Set up road blocks where trucks are required to pull over at all entrances to the city, and prevent any truck driver who does not have legitimate business involving his truck from entering the city.

DC needs to pass emergency legislation making the use of trucks for the purpose of committing acts of economic and social domestic terrorism a felony ASAP.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. The beginning gathering point was moved from Barstow to Adelanto
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:45 AM
Feb 2022

(desert towns north of Los Angeles) without explanation. May be Barstow had something to do with it.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
40. Yea, make them all stop at the weight-stations.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:42 AM
Feb 2022

Make sure every weigh-station is open and operational and stop every darn truck.

Do trucks operate on schedules that include the potential of having to stop at weigh-stations? Or would my suggestion actually cause more chaos and slow down delivery of needed goods and services?

Anyway, just spit-balling here. I feel safe at DU to just throw the idea out there….

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
44. The vast majority of weigh stations don't even have us stop on the scales anymore,
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:36 PM
Feb 2022

we do a slow roll across the scales which will weigh us, hell, I have a device in my trucks that will allow me to bypass the scales because they do a pre weigh before I even get to the scales.

To answer your question, yes it would slow us down somewhat, but that is factored into my delivery schedule.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
52. And thank you for asking these important questions,
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 10:59 AM
Feb 2022

I'm always happy to answer any questions about truck driving.

Beachnutt

(7,324 posts)
18. Also there are a lot of immigrant folks
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:15 AM
Feb 2022

driving cross country now and you can bet these folks will keep rolling, so the magaloon faux fed steering wheel holders are only giving their work to somebody who wants to work while they're trying to create havoc for the orange con.

jaxexpat

(6,833 posts)
24. Hit on the big thing, there, Beachnutt.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:37 AM
Feb 2022

The single greatest driving force behind all these low-info yahoos acting out is their witless stance to decry the passage of time, with its rising and falling tides, migrations of people seeking resources and, you know, change. They'll NEVER understand that to stop the sun's setting is to deny the sunrise. Shallow, silly cannon fodder people, following the flags of their betrayers.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
30. Why would an owner operator strike for better hours or higher wages?
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:49 AM
Feb 2022

Aren't they their own bosses and decide which loads to take and when?

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
36. ...
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:23 AM
Feb 2022
Aren't they their own bosses and decide which loads to take and when?


Yes, but when I accept a load, then I'm now under contract with the company to deliver the load on time, so at that point, I am, in a sense, a temporary employee of the company.

I'm fortunate to have a very good agent that gets me and my other driver good paying loads, and I'm on WalMart's favored list of owner/operators to haul their trailers, and they pay good mileage rates for owner/operators.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
43. Certainly you become to some extent their employee
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:23 PM
Feb 2022

But the question is why you would need to strike for better hours/pay. If you have a religious objection to working on Saturdays, you don't accept loads that require Saturday work. If Walmart ceases to offer good mileage rates, you don't have them on your own favored list any longer.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
41. +100.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:43 AM
Feb 2022

Ayup, more loads for those of us that want to haul rather than participate in this renegade "convoy".

The elephant in the room that most of us are forgetting is that Teamsters Union President, James Hoffa, condemned the Canadian truckers for their blockade, gotta wonder how the Teamsters drivers will react?
You really don't want to fuck with the Teamsters Union and their ability to make a living, bad things tend to happen.

Not that I want anything to happen to these renegade truckers.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
45. I hate driving the DC beltway with a passion.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 02:25 PM
Feb 2022

But considering the length of time between the gridlock and mayhem caused in Canada and the State of the Union address, I wouldn't be surprised if DC, MD, VA and feds have been gaming this possibility with contingencies of main roads to and off the Beltway and other main roads (MD 50, etc) into DC to close off some of the access points. I wouldn't be surprised to have some discrete snipers posted near the overpasses.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
50. They are a mass movement in their own small minds
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:01 PM
Feb 2022

I know some indie truckers out there and I know how much work they need to put in just to stay even. Damned few of them will join this nonsense, they are running businesses and need to keep that business running.

I can't imagine who's going to join these soreheads. Most of them are only angry because Canadians had the idea first.

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