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CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 06:49 PM Feb 2022

Moscow orders Russian troops into Ukraine

From Task and Purpose:

Moscow orders Russian troops into Ukraine

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday ordered his forces to deploy to two separatist areas of Ukraine as a “peacekeeping” measure following a weekslong effort to mass hundreds of thousands of soldiers along Ukraine’s borders.

According to The Washington Post, Russian troops are now moving into both the “Donetsk People’s Republic” and the “Luhansk People’s Republic” after Moscow recognized their independence. Despite the Kremlin’s insistence that its forces were on a “peacekeeping” mission, the troop movements into Ukraine’s borders come after weeks of speculation and concern over a pending invasion.

“Russia is invading Ukraine right now,” tweeted Michael McFaul, a former U.S. ambassador to Russia.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/russia-ukraine-invasion/

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Moscow orders Russian troops into Ukraine (Original Post) CaptainTruth Feb 2022 OP
Time to bring out all of the sanctions. roamer65 Feb 2022 #1
Sadly, we don't plan to sanction them for this. Lancero Feb 2022 #9
He's borrowing from Hitler. roamer65 Feb 2022 #12
You think so? BGBD Feb 2022 #15
Nope. We're planning to sanction the two breakaway regions... Lancero Feb 2022 #19
That's from before BGBD Feb 2022 #24
I wish we wouldn't use Russian propaganda gab13by13 Feb 2022 #2
It was in quotes kacekwl Feb 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author kacekwl Feb 2022 #5
So much for a summit meeting. Sogo Feb 2022 #4
This sounds like the way Germany invaded Poland in 1939 Poiuyt Feb 2022 #6
I just read your same statement elsewhere. Its a similar comparison by many today. Budi Feb 2022 #10
Do you have a link on the Syria news? FrankChurchDem Feb 2022 #21
I'm backtracking to find it. Will post it asap. Budi Feb 2022 #25
Thanks FrankChurchDem Feb 2022 #31
It is more like Czechoslovakia sarisataka Feb 2022 #14
Yes, exactly. BlueCheeseAgain Feb 2022 #17
Yes. And blame NATO for responding when he takes that piece he claims is his anyway. Budi Feb 2022 #26
More like the Sudetenland. BlueCheeseAgain Feb 2022 #16
Bingo! Elwood P Dowd Feb 2022 #23
It's good to have reminders from history. calimary Feb 2022 #33
Donetsk & Luhansk today, Ukraine tomorrow. Putin ain't stopping there... Budi Feb 2022 #7
TY Rt.. Cha Feb 2022 #28
Ukraine is being invaded TODAY. Donetsk are Luhansk ARE Ukraine. Silent3 Feb 2022 #29
Of course. Speaking of the 2 areas he claims are his to take. Before he mows thru the rest. Budi Feb 2022 #30
Lighting a candle alittlelark Feb 2022 #8
Yup. They must be terrified. Budi Feb 2022 #22
Hitler used the same tactics Sympthsical Feb 2022 #11
But... The Ukrainian President was accusing Biden of exaggerating amaico Feb 2022 #13
Remember when Trump literally threw our Intel under the bus? Budi Feb 2022 #18
Yep. calimary Feb 2022 #32
This is an invasion of Ukraine. BlueCheeseAgain Feb 2022 #20
Just last week, Ukrainians on TV saying, "Oh, he'll never attack.".. lindysalsagal Feb 2022 #27

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
9. Sadly, we don't plan to sanction them for this.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:07 PM
Feb 2022

It's pretty blatant what Russia is planning to do, but well... It has enough of a veneer to deter a response.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
19. Nope. We're planning to sanction the two breakaway regions...
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:19 PM
Feb 2022

But sanctions against Russia are a separate thing, and will only be enforced if they 'further invade'.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16379076

Jen Psaki: "To be clear: these measures are separate from and would be in addition to the swift and severe economic measures we have been preparing in coordination with Allies and partners should Russia further invade Ukraine."


"should Russia further invade"

Hilarious, really. Russia launched their invasion, and our response is to... Sanction the territories they invaded. We claimed that we could sanction Russia if they invaded Ukraine, and now that they have... Well, by technicality, the only nation getting sanctioned is Ukraine.
 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
24. That's from before
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:25 PM
Feb 2022

Russia moved into Ukraine. I wouldn't read that as the US dating they aren't going to sanction Russia for this.

Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
10. I just read your same statement elsewhere. Its a similar comparison by many today.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:07 PM
Feb 2022

Putin's not stopping at Donetsk & Luhansk.
That was just the lie to justify his move inward.

He has to be stopped now

I read also just now that Syria is aligning with Putin.

WT Fukidy fuck.
😕

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
25. I'm backtracking to find it. Will post it asap.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:26 PM
Feb 2022

Although syria wouldn't surprise any of us.
Didn't say what support Assad was offering.
He better stay tf away.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
14. It is more like Czechoslovakia
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:15 PM
Feb 2022

Walk in and take a piece Then a bit later take the rest.

With Poland there was no illusion of peace, they came in guns firing and Stuka's diving

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
26. Yes. And blame NATO for responding when he takes that piece he claims is his anyway.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:30 PM
Feb 2022

That playbook opens the door to his siezing Kyiv.
Because NATO are meanies. They gave him no choice.
GDSoab. 🤬

calimary

(81,304 posts)
33. It's good to have reminders from history.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 10:14 PM
Feb 2022

My question is: haven't we imposed sanctions on Putin before, for his bad, and threatening and invasive behavior? How'd that work out so far?

Silent3

(15,219 posts)
29. Ukraine is being invaded TODAY. Donetsk are Luhansk ARE Ukraine.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:54 PM
Feb 2022

Let's not fall into Russia's desired framing of events so quickly.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
30. Of course. Speaking of the 2 areas he claims are his to take. Before he mows thru the rest.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:05 PM
Feb 2022

They are his teaser reasons. Teasing that a NATO response would be illegitimate & give him an opening to react.

The whole thing makes me ill.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
22. Yup. They must be terrified.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:23 PM
Feb 2022
One week ago, Ukraine protestors hold up flags to thank countries for their support




Sympthsical

(9,074 posts)
11. Hitler used the same tactics
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:09 PM
Feb 2022

"Oh, I just want this little bit. And a bite from this."

Then he'd swallow the rest after a little bit of time, because nations acquiesced to the first parts.

Fairly common approach in Europe over the centuries.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
18. Remember when Trump literally threw our Intel under the bus?
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:18 PM
Feb 2022

Last edited Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:20 PM - Edit history (2)

The stage was set.





And of course, towards the end of his reply, he again talks about Hillary's emails!

What did Hillary's emails have to do with the purpose of his meeting with Putin??

His dishonesty & ignorance is undeniable. A total embarrassment for our country and our people.

The fact that he even speaks her name in this speech before Putin, says everything about Putin's hands in Election 2016.
She was his only threat to where we are today. And she was the one he needed Trump to ruin in the public eye.

"Russia if you're listening" was the early tell. Sec Clinton knew what was about to be laid at her feet. She was running her campaign against Vladimer Putin from that point on.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
20. This is an invasion of Ukraine.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 07:19 PM
Feb 2022

It's time for the US, the EU, and all other countries to respond with vigor-- all levels of sanctions should be implemented immediately.

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