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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy didn't Putin do this when his puppet, TFG, was president?
Just asking.
Seems to me that Trump would have backed him all the way and even tried to find ways to help him.
Seriously, why did Putin wait 'til now, when he previously owned an American president?
Answers? Anyone?
cilla4progress
(24,776 posts)Loser was handing him everything he wanted with no cost or exposure!
relayerbob
(6,558 posts)LakeArenal
(28,847 posts)blm
(113,100 posts)that was giving Putin what he wanted AND further dividing the US at the same time.
tavernier
(12,406 posts)He probably thought the fix was in with the election and then it would be smooth sailing for him to take them all back.
Thats why Trump was desperate to overturn the election results. We spoiled their plans.
Cyrano
(15,063 posts)My question stands. Why did he wait until now?
relayerbob
(6,558 posts)They expected Trump to take the White House, one way or another, and use Hunter Biden's "corruption" as a pretext to overthrow Ukraine. That didn't work out so well, so now, it's on to Plan B.
Add to that, the Jan 6 and other investigations may well be preparing to out the links between the GQP and Putin, so he needs a distraction
underpants
(182,904 posts)possibly effectively end it. Trump wouldnt have done much and he certainly wouldnt have engaged our allies. He was a the midst of a fit over them (gee wonder why).
Plus its Putins long term goal.
allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)underpants
(182,904 posts)Gee wonder who benefited from the turmoil.
allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)was around and no notes were taken. Not a conspiracy, exactly, just a meeting of the authoritarian minds.
Mr.Bill
(24,330 posts)is Plan B.
For one thing, Trump was destroying NATO and thus doing Putin a great service, so of course Putin stayed quiet because had he made moves against Ukraine, NATO would react by becoming more unified, and that is the opposite of what Putin wanted. In short, dont interfere when your enemy (NATO) is being destroyed by Trump.
Jim__
(14,083 posts)It would have been easier for Putin to divide any opposition to his seizure of territory after NATO was broken up. Putin wanted to begin any seizure of territory after the anticipated break-up of NATO.
kskiska
(27,047 posts)all systems are GO for Putin to invade the U.S. The Repubublican Commie Party is paving the way and no one there is complaining. No more "Evil Empire." Putin will probably put his designated puppet in place as Premier.
LakeArenal
(28,847 posts)Doodley
(9,132 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,452 posts)He had to capture the GOP and half of the US population.
Which is now the case.
Irish_Dem
(47,452 posts)He wasn't ready for some reason.
allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)two scorpions circling each other in a bottle.
FrankTC
(210 posts)NATO would have been weakened by Trump's love affair with Putin. Meaningful sanctions and forceful responses would have been less likely. Maybe Putin didn't think that Trump would ever leave office?
pecosbob
(7,544 posts)ostensibly as an alternate route for Russian gas shipments. Nuclear tech for the Sunnis was the quid pro quo. The Syrian civil war and ISIS and Trump's egotism screwed that all up. This is the fall back plan.
Beyond the issue of oil and gas, Putin and his cronies' greatest vulnerability and fear is losing control of the populace. In the 1970s the unauthorized use of a photocopier would get you sent to the Gulag...these days it's texting.