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SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 07:41 PM Feb 2022

Can Romney get any respect for being right about Russia in Today's GOP?

He is poised to be the future leader if the Republicans want to re-enter American democracy. If not, he may wind up in a gulag.

"It's time to admit it: Mitt Romney was right about Russia"
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/22/politics/mitt-romney-russia-ukraine/index.html

"Romney: Putin can’t be allowed to rebuild the Soviet Union
“He’s trying to reestablish what he had before,” the Utah senator said."

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/16/romney-russia-ukraine-nato-527207

Romney has at least occasionally stood up to tfg and Lil Tucker. Taking down Carlson seems imperative to defending democracy at home.

"Mitt Romney Slams Tucker Carlson Over Viktor Orbán Trip: 'Hungary, Model for America?'"
https://www.newsweek.com/mitt-romney-slams-tucker-carlson-viktor-orban-hungary-model-america-1630451

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Can Romney get any respect for being right about Russia in Today's GOP? (Original Post) SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 OP
Ha! They won't even let Ronna "NOT Romney" McDaniel use her middle name... Hugin Feb 2022 #1
I'm thinking this disaster could break the fever. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #4
Mittens does have the potential of a substantial bloc, if he could get them together. Hugin Feb 2022 #7
thank you for your take. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #13
Rommey being right about Russia shows... nycbos Feb 2022 #2
He had some unforseen help... lame54 Feb 2022 #5
Russia attacked Ukraine in 2014 before Trump was around. former9thward Feb 2022 #21
'at least occasionally' not enough; elleng Feb 2022 #3
He is apparently trying to save child tax credit . SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #6
That would be 'nice.' elleng Feb 2022 #8
I was wrong RobertMcNamara Feb 2022 #9
Post removed Post removed Feb 2022 #15
WOW inthewind21 Feb 2022 #16
He isn't T F G!! SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #24
Michael McFaul, former ambassador to Russia under Obama FakeNoose Feb 2022 #25
" Russia the number one geopolitical foe." Pantagruel Feb 2022 #10
There's an old saying that even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Mitt Romney abqtommy Feb 2022 #11
NO MOMFUDSKI Feb 2022 #12
Recalling that Romney voted to convict Trump in 1st impeachment SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #14
Romney inthewind21 Feb 2022 #17
He's getting no help from me regarding any rehabilitation. Boomerproud Feb 2022 #18
One could say that about all politicians. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author nini Feb 2022 #19
Romney was right that Russia was a threat, but Obama was right that al Qaeda was a bigger Poiuyt Feb 2022 #22
The immediate threat hardluck Feb 2022 #23
To date, Romney has said and done nothing to threaten the Republikkkan party line Orrex Feb 2022 #26
He is probably too sane for his party. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #27

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
4. I'm thinking this disaster could break the fever.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 07:47 PM
Feb 2022

Carlson is way out there with his 4 million viewers. But he totally exposes himself to be unpatriotic. Romney may yet rise. And I, for one, hope he does.

Hugin

(33,208 posts)
7. Mittens does have the potential of a substantial bloc, if he could get them together.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 07:52 PM
Feb 2022

Far exceeding the Trumpists and other factions.

However, I've seen little indication of a rally.

I'm by no means a barometer of such things, though.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
13. thank you for your take.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:47 PM
Feb 2022

I am trying to project, I know. I crave sanity on the right. The idea that he could be proven right may just tip the scales in the next election.

nycbos

(6,039 posts)
2. Rommey being right about Russia shows...
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 07:44 PM
Feb 2022

... that the saying about broken clocks being right twice a day at 100% accurate.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
21. Russia attacked Ukraine in 2014 before Trump was around.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:55 PM
Feb 2022

He got away with Crimea then and that set the table for the future.

 

RobertMcNamara

(15 posts)
9. I was wrong
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:12 PM
Feb 2022

I remember when Romney got ridiculed in the Obama debate about calling Russia the number one geopolitical foe.

We were wrong.

He was right.

I admit it.

Obama’s Russia policy was wrong as well.

We are paying for that now.

Hopefully Biden remembers the lessons, I think he does.

Response to RobertMcNamara (Reply #9)

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
24. He isn't T F G!!
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:55 PM
Feb 2022

That is a big deal. If he can cause the Repubs to stop following the Donald, and focus on a violent dictator who got away with ending sanctions Obama imposed. That was Michael Flynn's promise. Obama warned the fat ass about Flynn - Putin admirer.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/08/obama-warn-trump-michael-flynn-238116

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
25. Michael McFaul, former ambassador to Russia under Obama
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:02 AM
Feb 2022

... and a frequent pundit on MSNBC, wrote a great book a few years ago about his time as ambassador to Russia. He was there when Obama's Russian policy "reboot" took a nosedive and McFaul tells several interesting stories about run-ins with Putin. McFaul is a genuine expert on Russian history, culture, politics and language, and I've learned a lot from his comments on Rachel and Lawrence.

The title of his book is From Cold War to Hot Peace: An American Ambassador in Putin's Russia (2018).

(link) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_McFaul

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
10. " Russia the number one geopolitical foe."
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:20 PM
Feb 2022

That was NINE years ago, fact sets change and China may indeed be the LT one to fear most. Russia may very well be shooting itself in the foot right in front of us.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
11. There's an old saying that even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Mitt Romney
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:55 PM
Feb 2022

deserves no respect from anyone. He showed me/us who he was a long, long time ago.
Don't buy into the lies that the lying spinners spin.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
20. One could say that about all politicians.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:46 PM
Feb 2022

But he ran for the Senate in 2018 to be a true conservative voice in the crazy party of tfg. He voted to impeach twice!!

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/2/13/22281675/why-mitt-romney-voted-to-convict-trump-in-the-former-presidents-2nd-impeachment-trial

A adamantly believe we need a healthy Rrpublican Party. Romney has been the steadiest voice they have. But because he lost in 2912, he has been vilified by MAGAts. I cheer him on. I think it's vital that his voice be heard today. He's still going to fault Democrats because if he didn't, he'd get no support.

Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Original post)

Poiuyt

(18,130 posts)
22. Romney was right that Russia was a threat, but Obama was right that al Qaeda was a bigger
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:53 PM
Feb 2022

threat at that time.

Orrex

(63,225 posts)
26. To date, Romney has said and done nothing to threaten the Republikkkan party line
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:10 AM
Feb 2022

He dutifully votes contrary to his party only when his vote wouldn't change the outcome of the vote regardless, and he's big on statements that don't actually require him to spend any political capital.

So good for him for stating the obvious about Putin, just like countless others have done. But he gets no props from me until he actually steps up and acts like a representative of the people rather than as an obedient pseudo-maverick pawn of his party.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
27. He is probably too sane for his party.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:45 AM
Feb 2022

Thinking back... W, Papa Bush, Reagan, Nixon. None of them - with the exception of Papa Bush - was actually a seriously, responsible POTUS. And because he responsibly raised taxes, they turned on him.

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