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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 07:47 PM Feb 2022

The new Manhattan DA needs to be removed from office. Something is rotten.

We don't know all the facts yet but it looks like he pulled the plug on the investigation before the investigation was done. He did that a month ago. That is not normal. The prosecutors who resigned are very experienced and have been working this case a long time. They don't resign unless something really rotten had happened.

We all just watched Trumps accounting firm bail on Trump about a week ago. Trumps accountant is about to go on trial. The grand jury term does not end until April. Why would you end it now?

The new DA has been on the job for 6 weeks and in the most important case of his life shuts down the investigation with no explanation? He is going to have a short career as Manhattan DA.

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The new Manhattan DA needs to be removed from office. Something is rotten. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Feb 2022 OP
Maybe he has a good future in the GOP. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #1
Sounds like he's being extorted. blm Feb 2022 #2
At best he is incompetent. At worst he is corrupt coward. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #9
In protest? krkaufman Feb 2022 #34
A horse's head in his bed? Ocelot II Feb 2022 #3
maybe he wants to be mayor of nyc nt msongs Feb 2022 #4
Fat Chance Of That Now smb Feb 2022 #17
I don't think anyone really knows what the deal is yet. tenderfoot Feb 2022 #5
Maybe he decided it just wasn't worth it considering the evidence. Hoyt Feb 2022 #6
Trumps accounting firm just bailed on him because of the evidence. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #11
Suspect a judge would throw the case out if that's all they have. Hoyt Feb 2022 #15
You have no idea why Trump and the accounting firm separated. former9thward Feb 2022 #20
They said they could no longer trust the information Trump was giving them. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #23
Then they'd have to prove... SergeStorms Feb 2022 #40
Let's jump to conclusions. That's always the way. Srkdqltr Feb 2022 #7
+1. On Nicole's show, a commentator said it's hard to prove because Trump didn't email or text. femmedem Feb 2022 #16
Sounds reasonable. Srkdqltr Feb 2022 #19
The people of New York City are going to hate the rookie Manhattan DA. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #21
Smells fishy. 2naSalit Feb 2022 #8
It does smell fishy. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #14
My suspicion leans toward a threat wnylib Feb 2022 #27
Just a continuation of the Vance Shuffle. Sneederbunk Feb 2022 #10
They didn't have any Tickle Feb 2022 #12
If He's Unwilling To Do His Job WHITT Feb 2022 #13
He doesn't work for Biden. former9thward Feb 2022 #22
My Bad WHITT Feb 2022 #24
Who will remove him? On what grounds? Beastly Boy Feb 2022 #18
Public pressure to force him to resign. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #25
Good luck with that. Beastly Boy Feb 2022 #48
If it's an elected position, it would be two-to-four years depending on state laws rpannier Feb 2022 #36
" We don't know all the facts yet" Ohio Joe Feb 2022 #26
I doubt we'll ever know Diraven Feb 2022 #37
This was quite a big case for the Manhattan DA to abandon so early in his tenure dlk Feb 2022 #28
Did this guy replace Cyrus Vance Jr. ? Captain Zero Feb 2022 #31
Given the many decades the Trump crime family flourished dlk Feb 2022 #35
Timing krkaufman Feb 2022 #38
Thank you, this looks really bad. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #32
Bet we'll see this guy with a job on the Fake station soon. ificandream Feb 2022 #29
NYC Fear City Mob related shenanigans aeromanKC Feb 2022 #30
The Italian mob replaced by the Russian mob Captain Zero Feb 2022 #33
Stinky Wild blueberry Feb 2022 #39
"We don't know all the facts yet" brooklynite Feb 2022 #41
These resignations were discussed on Nicole Wallace's show this afternoon. Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #42
"Something is rotten." blue-wave Feb 2022 #43
I have always felt that the orange person MOMFUDSKI Feb 2022 #45
Every damn time Omen78 Feb 2022 #44
The 2 prosecutors have a lot more experience than Mr. Bragg. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #46
Oh fuck no! Can't have anyone discuss any case involving #Traitor or his family Arazi Feb 2022 #49
It's corruption pure and simple. BlueLucy Feb 2022 #47
 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
9. At best he is incompetent. At worst he is corrupt coward.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 07:55 PM
Feb 2022

The whole dam country is watching this case and after 6 weeks on the job two very well respected prosecutors resign in protest. It happens out of no where?

krkaufman

(13,438 posts)
34. In protest?
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:23 PM
Feb 2022

“two very well respected prosecutors resign in protest.”

Where’s the reporting that the prosecutors resigned in protest? (not speculation but statements from the prosecutors)

smb

(3,475 posts)
17. Fat Chance Of That Now
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:07 PM
Feb 2022

The population of NYC mostly despises Grifty McGriftface; helping him get away with his swindles is a political kiss of death there.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
11. Trumps accounting firm just bailed on him because of the evidence.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 07:59 PM
Feb 2022

Its clear the prosecutors who resigned believed there was enough evidence.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
23. They said they could no longer trust the information Trump was giving them.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:19 PM
Feb 2022

It was pretty clear why they bailed.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
40. Then they'd have to prove...
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:01 PM
Feb 2022

that the bogus information came directly from Trump, not his accountant etc., and that his intent was to defraud.

That's the trouble with criminal cases like this. Proving intent.

I'm certainly not sticking up for Trump or the Manhattan DA. Just providing facts.

femmedem

(8,208 posts)
16. +1. On Nicole's show, a commentator said it's hard to prove because Trump didn't email or text.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:03 PM
Feb 2022

So the prosecutor would need a witness willing to testify that Trump knew the figures were inflated, and likely couldn't get one. He said Michael Cohen was probably the only one who would have been willing to testify and that he would have been easy to discredit under cross-examination.

So most likely this was a difference of opinion: the two prosecutors who resigned in tandem thought the case was strong enough to go to trial and the DA didn't.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
21. The people of New York City are going to hate the rookie Manhattan DA.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:15 PM
Feb 2022

Saying I didn't believe there was enough evidence to move forward, will not go over well to say the least.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
14. It does smell fishy.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:01 PM
Feb 2022

It looks like he is pulling a Bill Barr. No evidence here. Forget everything you have seen and heard.

wnylib

(21,621 posts)
27. My suspicion leans toward a threat
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:09 PM
Feb 2022

to the DA or his family.

Or something in his past that was dug up about him to use as leverage to make him drop the case.

Might be a job for Letitia James' office to look into.

Tickle

(2,541 posts)
12. They didn't have any
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 07:59 PM
Feb 2022

new evidence nor did they use the grand jury in a month. Something like that. The new prosecutor said he didn’t think he could move forward because of the “do nothing month “ I don’t understand what is going on

Beastly Boy

(9,461 posts)
18. Who will remove him? On what grounds?
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:09 PM
Feb 2022

"Mr. Bragg, you are hereby being removed from your office because something is fishy, we don't know a lot of the facts and two of your prosecutors resigned for reasons unknown. Have a nice day."

I hope no one on DU is considering taking you up on this.

Beastly Boy

(9,461 posts)
48. Good luck with that.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:04 PM
Feb 2022

How much public pressure do you think can be generated, and how much more than that can the Manhattan DA, elected by a 84% of the NY voters, withstand?

And then, there is the second question: on what grounds?

rpannier

(24,339 posts)
36. If it's an elected position, it would be two-to-four years depending on state laws
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:25 PM
Feb 2022

Unless recall is an option.
I don't think there is anything anyone can do to force him out unless he resigns

No judgement on the situation. But I think that's pretty much where it lays (or lies)

Ohio Joe

(21,763 posts)
26. " We don't know all the facts yet"
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:26 PM
Feb 2022

But… Let’s call for someone’s head?

Sheesh… I’ll wait for some more facts.

dlk

(11,578 posts)
28. This was quite a big case for the Manhattan DA to abandon so early in his tenure
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:11 PM
Feb 2022

Given the resources dedicated to this case, something smalls funny.

Captain Zero

(6,827 posts)
31. Did this guy replace Cyrus Vance Jr. ?
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:20 PM
Feb 2022

We had suspicions about him. (Vance)Then he announced he was leaving before case completed.

Replaced by this guy who almost immediately says, oh not enough to go forward.

Somethings fishy about all that timing.
And the case is over?
How convenient for the Teflon sack of shit.

dlk

(11,578 posts)
35. Given the many decades the Trump crime family flourished
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:24 PM
Feb 2022

There had to have been many enablers along the way. No doubt Trump is threatening to name names. That’s still no excuse, though.

krkaufman

(13,438 posts)
38. Timing
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:31 PM
Feb 2022

Yeah, it seemed odd that Vance chose to leave with this major case pending, a chance to clear his reputation as regards letting the Trumps off the hook previously. But then how would it have looked for Vance to decline prosecution a second time; easier and cleaner to have a new face spike the second investigation.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
32. Thank you, this looks really bad.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:20 PM
Feb 2022

As far as I know the DA hasn't said a word yet. Why not? He has everyone confused and pissed off.

aeromanKC

(3,328 posts)
30. NYC Fear City Mob related shenanigans
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:15 PM
Feb 2022

Definitely some NYC shenanigans going on. Reminds me of what happened in the 1980's with the Mob takedown depicted in this Netflix series. Especially in this final episode 3 listed in the link below link.

https://www.netflix.com/watch/81053938

Captain Zero

(6,827 posts)
33. The Italian mob replaced by the Russian mob
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:22 PM
Feb 2022

While Rudy on Duty back then.
Then Trump's "rise".

Coincidence?

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
41. "We don't know all the facts yet"
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:08 PM
Feb 2022

Wouldn't have guessed that from all the accusations flying around here.

Just to refresh. We have a story about two prosecutors resigning over disagreements with the DA. We have no statement from the former prosecutors. We have no statement from the DA. But apparently we know enough to accuse him of either corruption or blackmail and to demand he be removed (hint: he can't be)

Lonestarblue

(10,085 posts)
42. These resignations were discussed on Nicole Wallace's show this afternoon.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:10 PM
Feb 2022

I’ve forgotten which guest said that these prosecutors were ready to file indictments. They’re experienced prosecutors—seems they would know whether they had enough evidence for a likely conviction. Something very odd going on with this case, especially since AG James has been sharing her investigation with the DA. I remember reports that some of the financials had Trump’s Sharpie notes on them, which would definitely show that he knew what was in them.

These resignations are especially strange coming after Mazers announced last week that they were shedding Trump as a client and that none of Trump Org’s financial statements could be relied on. That would seem to have bolstered the case against Trump, not make it not worth prosecuting,

MOMFUDSKI

(5,676 posts)
45. I have always felt that the orange person
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:34 PM
Feb 2022

gets, right up front, dirt on whomever he is dealing with. Easy to do when you are dealing with LOTS of scumballs. That has been his MO his entire life. It is a surefire plan of operation. Then, when the going gets tough, the leverage is there and you know the rest of the story.

 

Omen78

(81 posts)
44. Every damn time
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:29 PM
Feb 2022

This happens it gives credence to that criminal bastard’s claims that everything brought against him nothing more than deep state shit. I get so emotionally invested in seeming him pay for what he’s done… Only to see our hopes dashed. I’m so over this.

gab13by13

(21,408 posts)
46. The 2 prosecutors have a lot more experience than Mr. Bragg.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:37 PM
Feb 2022

There is only 1 reason why both would abruptly resign, they disagreed with the DA. Why? The DA owes an explanation to the people of NY or they will not have confidence in him.

For all of you who claim that there wasn't a case, you don't know that. If the 2 excellent prosecutors felt there was a case, that's enough for me.

Alvin Bragg needs to hold a press conference to clear his name.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
49. Oh fuck no! Can't have anyone discuss any case involving #Traitor or his family
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:55 PM
Feb 2022

They must remain silent!

No press conferences!

You obviously haven’t listened to the experts who insist prosecutors are ON IT when it comes to the #TrumpCrimeFamily and we need to shutupaboutit…

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
47. It's corruption pure and simple.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:49 PM
Feb 2022

People need to listen to Hillary. She is never wrong. Hillary endorsed Tali Farhadian Weinstein.

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