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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe new Manhattan DA needs to be removed from office. Something is rotten.
We don't know all the facts yet but it looks like he pulled the plug on the investigation before the investigation was done. He did that a month ago. That is not normal. The prosecutors who resigned are very experienced and have been working this case a long time. They don't resign unless something really rotten had happened.
We all just watched Trumps accounting firm bail on Trump about a week ago. Trumps accountant is about to go on trial. The grand jury term does not end until April. Why would you end it now?
The new DA has been on the job for 6 weeks and in the most important case of his life shuts down the investigation with no explanation? He is going to have a short career as Manhattan DA.
Irish_Dem
(47,456 posts)blm
(113,101 posts)We need a thorough background check on him.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)The whole dam country is watching this case and after 6 weeks on the job two very well respected prosecutors resign in protest. It happens out of no where?
krkaufman
(13,438 posts)two very well respected prosecutors resign in protest.
Wheres the reporting that the prosecutors resigned in protest? (not speculation but statements from the prosecutors)
Ocelot II
(115,869 posts)msongs
(67,453 posts)smb
(3,475 posts)The population of NYC mostly despises Grifty McGriftface; helping him get away with his swindles is a political kiss of death there.
tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)trump remains a POS and loser.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Its clear the prosecutors who resigned believed there was enough evidence.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)former9thward
(32,082 posts)Total speculation without any facts.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)It was pretty clear why they bailed.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)that the bogus information came directly from Trump, not his accountant etc., and that his intent was to defraud.
That's the trouble with criminal cases like this. Proving intent.
I'm certainly not sticking up for Trump or the Manhattan DA. Just providing facts.
Srkdqltr
(6,326 posts)femmedem
(8,208 posts)So the prosecutor would need a witness willing to testify that Trump knew the figures were inflated, and likely couldn't get one. He said Michael Cohen was probably the only one who would have been willing to testify and that he would have been easy to discredit under cross-examination.
So most likely this was a difference of opinion: the two prosecutors who resigned in tandem thought the case was strong enough to go to trial and the DA didn't.
Srkdqltr
(6,326 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Saying I didn't believe there was enough evidence to move forward, will not go over well to say the least.
2naSalit
(86,804 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)It looks like he is pulling a Bill Barr. No evidence here. Forget everything you have seen and heard.
wnylib
(21,621 posts)to the DA or his family.
Or something in his past that was dug up about him to use as leverage to make him drop the case.
Might be a job for Letitia James' office to look into.
Sneederbunk
(14,308 posts)Tickle
(2,541 posts)new evidence nor did they use the grand jury in a month. Something like that. The new prosecutor said he didnt think he could move forward because of the do nothing month I dont understand what is going on
WHITT
(2,868 posts)he needs to resign and let Biden appoint someone who will.
former9thward
(32,082 posts)He was elected by the voters of the Manhattan borough of NYC.
WHITT
(2,868 posts)I thought it was the NY U.S. Attorney.
Beastly Boy
(9,461 posts)"Mr. Bragg, you are hereby being removed from your office because something is fishy, we don't know a lot of the facts and two of your prosecutors resigned for reasons unknown. Have a nice day."
I hope no one on DU is considering taking you up on this.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)We are talking NYC.
Beastly Boy
(9,461 posts)How much public pressure do you think can be generated, and how much more than that can the Manhattan DA, elected by a 84% of the NY voters, withstand?
And then, there is the second question: on what grounds?
rpannier
(24,339 posts)Unless recall is an option.
I don't think there is anything anyone can do to force him out unless he resigns
No judgement on the situation. But I think that's pretty much where it lays (or lies)
Ohio Joe
(21,763 posts)But
Lets call for someones head?
Sheesh
Ill wait for some more facts.
Diraven
(533 posts)None of it will ever go public if there's no trial
dlk
(11,578 posts)Given the resources dedicated to this case, something smalls funny.
Captain Zero
(6,827 posts)We had suspicions about him. (Vance)Then he announced he was leaving before case completed.
Replaced by this guy who almost immediately says, oh not enough to go forward.
Somethings fishy about all that timing.
And the case is over?
How convenient for the Teflon sack of shit.
dlk
(11,578 posts)There had to have been many enablers along the way. No doubt Trump is threatening to name names. Thats still no excuse, though.
krkaufman
(13,438 posts)Yeah, it seemed odd that Vance chose to leave with this major case pending, a chance to clear his reputation as regards letting the Trumps off the hook previously. But then how would it have looked for Vance to decline prosecution a second time; easier and cleaner to have a new face spike the second investigation.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)As far as I know the DA hasn't said a word yet. Why not? He has everyone confused and pissed off.
ificandream
(9,387 posts)aeromanKC
(3,328 posts)Definitely some NYC shenanigans going on. Reminds me of what happened in the 1980's with the Mob takedown depicted in this Netflix series. Especially in this final episode 3 listed in the link below link.
https://www.netflix.com/watch/81053938
Captain Zero
(6,827 posts)While Rudy on Duty back then.
Then Trump's "rise".
Coincidence?
Wild blueberry
(6,664 posts)brooklynite
(94,745 posts)Wouldn't have guessed that from all the accusations flying around here.
Just to refresh. We have a story about two prosecutors resigning over disagreements with the DA. We have no statement from the former prosecutors. We have no statement from the DA. But apparently we know enough to accuse him of either corruption or blackmail and to demand he be removed (hint: he can't be)
Lonestarblue
(10,085 posts)Ive forgotten which guest said that these prosecutors were ready to file indictments. Theyre experienced prosecutorsseems they would know whether they had enough evidence for a likely conviction. Something very odd going on with this case, especially since AG James has been sharing her investigation with the DA. I remember reports that some of the financials had Trumps Sharpie notes on them, which would definitely show that he knew what was in them.
These resignations are especially strange coming after Mazers announced last week that they were shedding Trump as a client and that none of Trump Orgs financial statements could be relied on. That would seem to have bolstered the case against Trump, not make it not worth prosecuting,
blue-wave
(4,365 posts)And it's stinken pretty bad.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,676 posts)gets, right up front, dirt on whomever he is dealing with. Easy to do when you are dealing with LOTS of scumballs. That has been his MO his entire life. It is a surefire plan of operation. Then, when the going gets tough, the leverage is there and you know the rest of the story.
Omen78
(81 posts)This happens it gives credence to that criminal bastards claims that everything brought against him nothing more than deep state shit. I get so emotionally invested in seeming him pay for what hes done Only to see our hopes dashed. Im so over this.
gab13by13
(21,408 posts)There is only 1 reason why both would abruptly resign, they disagreed with the DA. Why? The DA owes an explanation to the people of NY or they will not have confidence in him.
For all of you who claim that there wasn't a case, you don't know that. If the 2 excellent prosecutors felt there was a case, that's enough for me.
Alvin Bragg needs to hold a press conference to clear his name.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)They must remain silent!
No press conferences!
You obviously havent listened to the experts who insist prosecutors are ON IT when it comes to the #TrumpCrimeFamily and we need to shutupaboutit
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)People need to listen to Hillary. She is never wrong. Hillary endorsed Tali Farhadian Weinstein.