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Do we know what's going on with the Navy ? (Original Post) rsweets Feb 2022 OP
Wut EYESORE 9001 Feb 2022 #1
What exactly is the Navy? milestogo Feb 2022 #2
Russia deploys three missile vessels to face allies' navies: Drum Feb 2022 #3
Okay. NATO Navy is probably ready for them. haele Feb 2022 #7
Thank's Drum .. that's the goods rsweets Feb 2022 #8
As someone who spent 28 years in the Navy playing circle jerk with the Russian Navy maxrandb Feb 2022 #13
Just curious... with your knowledge... WarGamer Feb 2022 #15
I retired back in 2013 maxrandb Feb 2022 #19
I hear ya... WarGamer Feb 2022 #21
Maybe explain what you're talking about USALiberal Feb 2022 #4
Maybe this will help... PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #5
Lol. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #10
In the Navy, you can sail the seven seas, maxrandb Feb 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Sneederbunk Feb 2022 #6
Not sure how accurate this is Best_man23 Feb 2022 #9
Curious. I thought our biggest worry is the Chinese navy. TreasonousBastard Feb 2022 #11
No, not the Chinese Navy, not the Russian Navy, not even other NATO countries maxrandb Feb 2022 #17
So many have no idea Lurker Deluxe Feb 2022 #22
the biggest worry may be the hypersonic ASM's that MAY be unstoppable. WarGamer Feb 2022 #16
71% of the Earth is Ocean maxrandb Feb 2022 #20
Rest assured they're as ready as they can be. pecosbob Feb 2022 #12
Semper Fortis denbot Feb 2022 #18

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
2. What exactly is the Navy?
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:33 PM
Feb 2022

Today's Navy handles operations on and under the sea, in the air and on the ground. It spans 100 international ports and the open ocean. Elite groups within the Navy, such as the SEALs and Navy Divers, receive specialized training for advanced warfare situations.

haele

(12,660 posts)
7. Okay. NATO Navy is probably ready for them.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:39 PM
Feb 2022

They practice for this sort of thing regularly.
And NATO has more than three missile ships that aren't being held together with 40 layers of paint as most Russian ships I've seen over the years.
Subs, now...that the worry.

Haele

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
13. As someone who spent 28 years in the Navy playing circle jerk with the Russian Navy
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:37 PM
Feb 2022

If the shooting starts, they wouldn't last a week. We know that, and they know that.

I guarantee you that there is a US Fast Attack submarine that has a firing solution on every single sub they currently have deployed.

Could they inflict some damage? Sure, but one Carrier Strike Group contains more firepower than the entire Russian Navy, and the US has 11 if those alone.

WarGamer

(12,452 posts)
15. Just curious... with your knowledge...
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:44 PM
Feb 2022

Has a hypersonic ASM ever been fired at a carrier group?

Id like to NEVER find out.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
19. I retired back in 2013
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:13 PM
Feb 2022

There has been rumblings of hypersonic missiles back then. Even now, from what I understand, there may be some that have been tested, or even shown to reach Mach-5. The issue has always been targeting. Doesn't matter how fast a weapon can travel if you don't have the intel, technology or ability to have it hit what you want it to hit, it's just a fast, expensive piece of crap.

The United States is also developing hypersonic weapons, but more importantly, laser, pulse and drone counter measures and missile defense systems.

They develop a missile that they say can't be defeated, we developed CIWS and Rolling Air-Frame missile defense systems to defeat them.

And no, I don't think a hypersonic missiles would ever be fired at any Aircraft Carrier, because of they did, we'd destroy them.

I was not joking. There is not one single Russian submarine underway today that does not have a fast attack on its tail.

I am not saying that they couldn't do some damage, but if you put me in a ring with Mike Tyson, I might hit him one time, but I think I would regret it.

WarGamer

(12,452 posts)
21. I hear ya...
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:25 PM
Feb 2022

My grandfather was on a cruiser in the Pacific in 1943-1945 involved in almost all the hot spots, the USS Cleveland was all over the place including the Battle of the Philippine Sea.

He rarely talked about it... but after a few too many Hamms... he once talked about using firehoses after a Kamikaze attack to rinse off the metal and human remains back into the sea.

Response to rsweets (Original post)

Best_man23

(4,898 posts)
9. Not sure how accurate this is
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:48 PM
Feb 2022

But Wikipedia does has a list of active Russian Navy ships.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Russian_Navy_ships

As a previous post mentioned, while most of the Russian ships are 30-40 years old (with question as to how well they've been maintained), the biggest worry is submarines.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
17. No, not the Chinese Navy, not the Russian Navy, not even other NATO countries
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:50 PM
Feb 2022

could match the firepower, technology, logistics, survivability or lethality of the United States Navy.

One thing we have done very well is build, fund and equip a Navy that can control the sea lanes and project power across the globe. There is simply no other Navy that comes close.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,036 posts)
22. So many have no idea
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:51 PM
Feb 2022

The modern US Navy is a projection of absolute dominant power.

Truthfully there is nothing that anyone can do to counter a modern US carrier strike group ... nothing.

Someone could possibly catch them by surprise and do some damage but the retaliation would be hell on earth, and it would be fast.

Many think that they are just sitting there bobbing in the water, floating along with the tides, a virtual sitting duck. Not even close to accurate. They are always moving, and they are not slow by any standard and their sphere of control is absolute and very big ... hundreds of miles and there is nothing in that area that they do not know about and can destroy in moments.

WarGamer

(12,452 posts)
16. the biggest worry may be the hypersonic ASM's that MAY be unstoppable.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:47 PM
Feb 2022

Naval forces are fast becoming obsolete. The Russians and Chinese both have HS ASM's

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
20. 71% of the Earth is Ocean
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:22 PM
Feb 2022

So Naval forces will never become obsolete.

Hypersonic ASMs don't have reliable targeting capability yet. They may go fast, but they can't hit the broadside of a barn, yet...

The US is also developing defense systems to counter them.

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