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Rick Wilson's typically measured response to RW 'fucking traitors' (Original Post) speak easy Feb 2022 OP
He's hopping mad, and it's good to see bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #1
When the cudgel fits speak easy Feb 2022 #4
Don't hold yourself back, Rick! Tell us how you really feel -- don't bottle it up! Hekate Feb 2022 #2
Righteous! Drum Feb 2022 #3
Oh fuck Rick Wilson. Glamrock Feb 2022 #5
At least Iraq was built on pro-America sentiment nt Azathoth Feb 2022 #7
Tell that to an Iraqi Glamrock Feb 2022 #9
Wilson made the decision to invade Iraq? speak easy Feb 2022 #11
No he didn't make the decision Glamrock Feb 2022 #17
Defend Warhawk Edwards then speak easy Feb 2022 #19
I can't see how you think im defending Edwards. Glamrock Feb 2022 #21
Oh Give It a Rest. Indykatie Feb 2022 #20
Never gonna happen. Glamrock Feb 2022 #23
dems will not challenge the cheerleaders as long as they ignore rw radio certainot Feb 2022 #40
This is incoherent Azathoth Feb 2022 #34
And Cheney provided the false evidence for us to believe. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #52
The only reason that any Republicans wnylib Feb 2022 #55
Well if I HAD to choose I'd take "establishment" over "insanity" oldsoftie Feb 2022 #56
This is so fucking stupid. GaYellowDawg Feb 2022 #36
Agree..TY! Cha Feb 2022 #43
No, Iraq was not built on "pro-American sentiment." Iraq was built on the deception of the American Martin68 Feb 2022 #14
And Vlad the Invader is following in that luvtheGWN Feb 2022 #25
You missed my point entirely. Where's the "American sentiment" in your calculation? Martin68 Feb 2022 #26
Yes, it was built on pro-America sentiment Azathoth Feb 2022 #32
Iraq was a pack of lies sold to the American public who willingly swallowed it. Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #57
The guy has been bashing/organizing against Trump for six years now. speak easy Feb 2022 #8
Goddamn right Glamrock Feb 2022 #10
So, essentially Wilson and Steve Bannon are on stopdiggin Feb 2022 #22
No, not even close! Glamrock Feb 2022 #30
Ah - so Wilson actually kind of 'bests' Bannon here? stopdiggin Feb 2022 #35
No problem see the post above about what he thought about attacking Max Cleland and then Glamrock Feb 2022 #38
I did. And I still see a significant difference stopdiggin Feb 2022 #41
Listen man, Glamrock Feb 2022 #42
He's one of the founding members of the Lincoln Project. KS Toronado Feb 2022 #54
I realize Glamrock Feb 2022 #59
+1 And what he did to Max Cleland is unforgivable. progressoid Feb 2022 #24
Thank you! Glamrock Feb 2022 #31
Agreed! I think Wilson is crap. He will go back home Baked Potato Feb 2022 #27
Damn right Glamrock Feb 2022 #33
Don't hold back, Rick. 👍 crickets Feb 2022 #6
I disagree. The Unmitigated Gall Feb 2022 #12
Absolutely! Martin68 Feb 2022 #13
Republicans hate the troops because they are loyal to Baked Potato Feb 2022 #15
Every American should be "furious." These are the same individuals who supported the insurrection. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #16
Every public official in America has sworn an oath to defend our Constitution speak easy Feb 2022 #37
don't forget military is for " loser's & sucker's as per trump " ! monkeyman1 Feb 2022 #18
Amen, brother. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #28
Kick dalton99a Feb 2022 #29
Absolutely correct. Trump IS a traitor. Kid Berwyn Feb 2022 #39
But they wave the flag 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 like they're patriotic. live love laugh Feb 2022 #44
And these are the folks who claim teaching accurate American history thucythucy Feb 2022 #45
TuckyoRose. It's perfect. ratchiweenie Feb 2022 #46
KNR niyad Feb 2022 #47
Rick never disappoints. AngryOldDem Feb 2022 #48
Kick ass Rick... BlueJac Feb 2022 #49
And don't EVER claim to be freedom loving patriots Martin Eden Feb 2022 #50
Didn't Ukraine suffer more than Russia during WW2? oldsoftie Feb 2022 #51
Here is what Elise Stefanik's R NY 21 response was mgardener Feb 2022 #53
You were going to drag us "kicking and screaming"" if I remember correctly. czarjak Feb 2022 #58

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
1. He's hopping mad, and it's good to see
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:54 PM
Feb 2022

Too often I find him sly, content to poke fun at Trump to get inside his head. Rick needs to broaden his scatter shot, and this is it.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
5. Oh fuck Rick Wilson.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:39 PM
Feb 2022

I get it the enemy of my enemy and all that. But fuck him. He was a cheerleader for Iraq and he helped build the machine Trump rolled in on. Fuck him.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
9. Tell that to an Iraqi
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:52 PM
Feb 2022

Personally I give two shits about wether it was pro American sentiment when a million people were killed. It was a fucking disaster that we caused and he sold. Period. I still love my country and I hear what you’re saying, for the record. These people are absolutely traitors. But let’s not forget the vitriol he carried for those of us that opposed that blunder. Him calling these people traitors for siding with Russia Carrie’s no weight when he was calling Americans traitors for not siding with one of America’s biggest mistakes. This fucker can go pound sand. I’m not going to sing his praises when he hasn’t accepted his responsibility or because he’s seen what is politically expedient or financially good for him in the future. Fuck this asshole.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
17. No he didn't make the decision
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:04 PM
Feb 2022

Or Hillary…

He was a cheerleader for it. And called those who disagreed traitors.

Jesus Christ I can’t believe this motherfucker is being defended here. He called us all traitors. We are now the same in his mind as those that are defending Putin.

Yeah, fuck this guy.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
23. Never gonna happen.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:41 PM
Feb 2022

He nor his conservative views are welcome in our tent. Just because he’s saying things we like to hear is not changing opinion fucking one. Do you really think he’s having any affect on todays Republicans? He’s a traitor in their eyes because he won’t support Trump. What? He says things I like to hear so all is forgiven for his role in building this nightmare? Sorry. Can’t do it. If you want to Cheerlead a man who has brutally insulted everything we stand for because he suddenly felt the winds of change and tells you what you want to hear? It’s on you. E ain’t changing a single fucking Republicans view so his words mean nothing.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
40. dems will not challenge the cheerleaders as long as they ignore rw radio
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:37 AM
Feb 2022
winds of change
- that's 1500 radio stations that, unlike fox, are locally coordinated and totally ignored by democrats, endorsed by 87+ universities and many pro teams, to lie constantly and in coordination, and have been used by putin since at least 2008/palin

that's what the con cheerleaders, including manchin, support, and because liberals have no fucking clue what's on 1500 radio stations there's no way to call them out. what they are cheerleading is invisible and ignored by them but heard by 50 mil a week with many secondary recipients of the lies and alternate reality, building on week after week for 30 ignored years, the biggest political mistake in history

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
34. This is incoherent
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:23 AM
Feb 2022

There is a difference between being deceived by lies and propaganda to believe you are supporting your country, and knowingly, consciously siding with an enemy of your country.

In 2003, Bush Republicans still thought they were doing something to "protect" America.

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
52. And Cheney provided the false evidence for us to believe.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 03:28 PM
Feb 2022

When people point out who voted for the war, I always remind them WHY many of them voted yes.
Its like if I'm told my house is on fire while I'm at work, I'll call the fire dept. Maybe its NOT on fire. I made my decision based on what I believed to be true

wnylib

(21,484 posts)
55. The only reason that any Republicans
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 05:14 PM
Feb 2022

oppose Trump is that they want the establishment Rs to rule in his place, with most of these same policies in a more presentable dressing.

GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts)
36. This is so fucking stupid.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:25 AM
Feb 2022

He was wrong in the past. He’s right now. People are allowed to evolve, and he’s a powerful voice that has turned to our side. To repudiate that voice because it was once in opposition to ours is just flat dumb. If you want purity, go distill some water.

Martin68

(22,813 posts)
14. No, Iraq was not built on "pro-American sentiment." Iraq was built on the deception of the American
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:02 PM
Feb 2022

people by a right wing administration bent on garnering more power. They fucked up.

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
32. Yes, it was built on pro-America sentiment
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:19 AM
Feb 2022

The fact much of it was based on lies doesn't change that.

The vast majority of Iraq war supporters, including Republicans, thought they were doing something that would protect and/or avenge America.

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
8. The guy has been bashing/organizing against Trump for six years now.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:49 PM
Feb 2022

His stated aim is to exterminate the GOP.

Yeah, I get it, some ppl will never forgive. I get it.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
10. Goddamn right
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:54 PM
Feb 2022

He’s a political pundit that makes a living bloviating. I trust him as far as I can throw him.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
22. So, essentially Wilson and Steve Bannon are on
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:34 PM
Feb 2022

equal footing here - as far as you're concerned? That's - - interesting.
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Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
30. No, not even close!
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:07 AM
Feb 2022

Steve Bannon, as evil as he is hasn’t been building this disaster for nearly as long as Rick Wilson…

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
38. No problem see the post above about what he thought about attacking Max Cleland and then
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:28 AM
Feb 2022

tell me how much you admire him.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
41. I did. And I still see a significant difference
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 01:02 AM
Feb 2022

between a political opponent (even one with a dirty tricks 'hatchet man' history) - and a Putin ally / enemy of the state. The fact that you put them on the same level (or even account Wilson a greater threat) I find fairly inexplicable.

Steve Bannon has no legitimate place - even as opponent - in the political landscape, or even the political dialog of this country. Wilson might be a scum-bag - but he is not Steve Bannon. I think the OP was worth posting. You apparently disagree.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
42. Listen man,
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 01:33 AM
Feb 2022

I’m sincerely not trying to pick a fight with you….or anyone else that disagrees. Cool. Alls I’m saying is:

1) This guy called all of us traitors when we disagreed with his war (Iraq)
2) This guy built the machinery on the GOP side that gave us Trump

And most importantly,
3) He isn’t influencing anyone on the GOP side. The lines have been drawn. All he’s doing is giving us a a “own the cons” feeling of gratification. He’s not contributing fuck all to changing anything. He will bash the Democratic Party the first chance he gets. If he was contributing to change? I’d have not posted fuck Rock Wilson. But he isn’t. He simply isn’t. The GOP base views him as a traitor to the “conservative” (whatever the fuck that means anymore) cause. All he’s good for is making liberals feel good. And coming from the likes of him? Yeah, I’m good. Please keep moving down the street asshole.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
59. I realize
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:00 PM
Feb 2022

And they ain’t changing fuck all with the conservative base. Which means, once again, they’re only contributing to good feelings of liberals.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
24. +1 And what he did to Max Cleland is unforgivable.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:46 PM
Feb 2022

"The Cleland ad was powerful because it went to his strengths," Wilson explains. "Everyone assumed Cleland was immune to critiques on national security issues ... we found a lot of votes where he'd voted the wrong way ... we tested those messages and discovered those messages were very effective against Cleland ..." There was an outcry against the ad by some Republican veterans, like John McCain, and it was eventually pulled. But Cleland, who'd started the campaign 22 points ahead, lost to Chambliss. No one on his campaign ever figured out how to counter the ad. Considering Cleland had lost an arm and both his legs to a grenade in Vietnam ... they assumed no one would dare to hit him on defense. Rick Wilson dared: "... they didn't calculate that I have no moral center when it comes to political ads, and I will destroy the innocent and the guilty ...

https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2397-the-nasty-realities-political-attack-ad-industry.html

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
31. Thank you!
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:18 AM
Feb 2022

Can’t believe people here are defending this fucking asshole. It’s fucking embarrassing.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
27. Agreed! I think Wilson is crap. He will go back home
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:02 AM
Feb 2022

to his R people when the old guard rises back to the top.

Martin68

(22,813 posts)
13. Absolutely!
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:00 PM
Feb 2022

Rub their noses in it, never let them forget. If they fuck with our democracy, we will do whatever it takes to restore it. Anything.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
15. Republicans hate the troops because they are loyal to
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:03 PM
Feb 2022

the Constitution and each other.

They can’t control the troops with money like they control everything else, so they have given up on them.

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
37. Every public official in America has sworn an oath to defend our Constitution
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:27 AM
Feb 2022

“against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

This is not an IQ test, people.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
39. Absolutely correct. Trump IS a traitor.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:30 AM
Feb 2022
Trump sides with Putin as Biden tries to stop a war

Stephen Collinson Profile
Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN

Excerpt…

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine, of Ukraine, Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump said in an interview on "The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show."

The ex-President added: "So Putin is now saying, 'It's independent,' a large section of Ukraine. I said, 'How smart is that?' And he's going to go in and be a peacekeeper. That's the strongest peace force," Trump said. "We could use that on our southern border. That's the strongest peace force I've ever seen. ... Here's a guy who's very savvy. ... I know him very well. Very, very well."

Trump was referring to Putin's declaration on Monday that he would regard two rebel regions of eastern Ukraine, where he has been fostering separatism, as independent and his order for Russian troops, which Putin misleadingly called "peacekeeping" forces, to reinforce the enclaves. The move was a flagrant violation of international law, was resonant of the tyrannical territorial aggrandizement of the 1930s that led to World War II and was, as Biden said on Tuesday, tantamount to "the beginning of a Russian invasion."

In effect, the ex-President is trying to undermine US foreign policy as the current President tries to stop a war that could kill thousands of people and threaten the post-Cold War peace.

Continues…

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-joe-biden/index.html

thucythucy

(8,069 posts)
45. And these are the folks who claim teaching accurate American history
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:19 AM
Feb 2022

is somehow denigrating and unpatriotic.

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
50. And don't EVER claim to be freedom loving patriots
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 02:37 PM
Feb 2022

You DESECRATE the flag when you wave it for your cause, which is the same cause of Vladimir Putin in the current global struggle between violent autocracy and free democracy.

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