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Russia should be expelled from the UN. (Original Post) icymist Feb 2022 OP
Hard yes on the first. As much as I like the idea Phoenix61 Feb 2022 #1
Love to see a couple Russians KS Toronado Feb 2022 #33
Umm, that would be WW III. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #2
I think we're pretty close to WW3 already Dave says Feb 2022 #5
They should do it. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2022 #3
A rogue nation shouldn't be given a place at the UN. Boomerproud Feb 2022 #7
How? They have a permanent ability to veto anything on the security council. Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #4
It's absurd. EndlessWire Feb 2022 #12
Reality often is. Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #16
Ukraine called for an immediate second meeting EndlessWire Feb 2022 #19
Oh look, Ukraine came back and asked EndlessWire Feb 2022 #22
Do you anticipate his request being granted? Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #23
I dunno EndlessWire Feb 2022 #24
Russia can simply veto any attempt by the UN to intervene militarily. Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #26
Ukraine explained it in his first speech EndlessWire Feb 2022 #29
The same way that Russia attacked Ukraine. wnylib Feb 2022 #31
Drive Russia to starvation. Dawson Leery Feb 2022 #6
Won't happen. They are a permanent member of the security council. JohnSJ Feb 2022 #8
Look how fast they can be booted to the curb! EndlessWire Feb 2022 #14
The Ukraine ambassador to the UN is asking for that, but I doubt it will happen JohnSJ Feb 2022 #17
Maybe EndlessWire Feb 2022 #20
Wishing for something, no matter how fervently, will not make it happen. Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #18
Gee, thanks, I didn't know that...n/t EndlessWire Feb 2022 #21
By what mechanism do you propose that Russia be booted from the UN? Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #27
How about Putin style doublespeak? wnylib Feb 2022 #34
Absolutely. AngryOldDem Feb 2022 #9
Close the Russian embassies around the world wnylib Feb 2022 #35
That's What I Was Thinking DanieRains Feb 2022 #38
Spread it on social media until it is trending wnylib Feb 2022 #39
Unplug Russia from the civilized world dalton99a Feb 2022 #10
from the Security Council. elleng Feb 2022 #11
Yes, I agree with the UN expulsion Sunsky Feb 2022 #13
They can't be expelled DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2022 #15
The Russian Federation wnylib Feb 2022 #36
Kicked off the Security Council iemanja Feb 2022 #25
The Soviet Union was, but this is not wnylib Feb 2022 #40
Good point iemanja Feb 2022 #41
Not if his country is not a member. wnylib Feb 2022 #44
Hey, look at this iemanja Feb 2022 #43
Yeah, I noticed that after posting wnylib Feb 2022 #45
And Russians living abroad should be expelled including in the US. Samrob Feb 2022 #28
Some are dissidents iemanja Feb 2022 #42
Powerful nations dividing up the world to exploit the resources of weaker nations. jalan48 Feb 2022 #30
Which "they"? quakerboy Feb 2022 #32
I concur. blue-wave Feb 2022 #37

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
12. It's absurd.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:44 PM
Feb 2022

If they can't vote out a rogue state who is destabilizing Europe by actively bombing another country and stealing another country's territory, then they don't exist. They have nothing to lose.

Just tell the "President" to not bother coming back. Next country up, please.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
19. Ukraine called for an immediate second meeting
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:56 PM
Feb 2022

and asked for Russia to step away from the UN presidency. Boy, is he pissed!

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
22. Oh look, Ukraine came back and asked
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:09 AM
Feb 2022

for the "President" to step down a second time. I guess he also has wishful thinking.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
24. I dunno
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:27 AM
Feb 2022

I think it was a big mistake for Putin to start bombing during the peace meeting. Those countries are all pissed. They absolutely could make him step aside. Maybe they can't get rid of them yet, but...

They seem to be bombing Kiev...that would mean that they plan to take the entire country. They appear to be trying for all the airports. That's what you do, you know, take out the airports so NO HELP can fly in...

So, in view of this, do you anticipate that they will NOT boot Russia? If the UN has to come in with troops, Russia will not participate. So, maybe they will be considered to be a former member of the UN.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
26. Russia can simply veto any attempt by the UN to intervene militarily.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:31 AM
Feb 2022

Likewise, any attempt to boot Russia from the UN would be similarly vetoed by them.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
29. Ukraine explained it in his first speech
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:58 AM
Feb 2022

In the first few paragraphs. He gave the Council a lot to consider. For legal purposes, A. something about them not joining in a regular manner, and B. they are not acting in accordance with the purpose and charter of the UN. So, they can be kicked out. It just takes the will to do it.

Perhaps tomorrow morning, some country will hand in the notice that Russia is no longer a member. Hand it right to their Ambassador, and ask for his keys to the diplomat washroom.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
20. Maybe
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:03 AM
Feb 2022

Gonna be kind of awkward if the UN decides to send troops, and Russia is a member...maybe they'll quit? Just kick them out, they know they'll have to...

Everyone is planning to put forth declarations...in three days it will be over.

I need rum cake. Rum cake.

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
34. How about Putin style doublespeak?
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 02:24 AM
Feb 2022

Modern Russia is not the nation that signed onto the UN charter. That nation was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Therefore, the Russian Federation is not a member.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
9. Absolutely.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:43 PM
Feb 2022

Russian ambassador now regurgitating Putin’s bullshit that Ukraine is the aggressor in the Dombas.

What a sad, fucking joke.

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
35. Close the Russian embassies around the world
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 02:27 AM
Feb 2022

and order them out.

Or, if the embassies stay open, have massive world wide demonstrations in front of every Russian embassy everywhere.

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
39. Spread it on social media until it is trending
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 02:39 AM
Feb 2022

and the world starts organizing against Adolf Putin and his Donald Goebbels sidekick.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
13. Yes, I agree with the UN expulsion
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:45 PM
Feb 2022

And I wish the media would stop feeding us the Russian propaganda. I just had to change the channel. I'm okay with snippets and soundbites.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
15. They can't be expelled
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:47 PM
Feb 2022

If I remember correctly, any expulsion has to go through the Security Council, which Russia is a permanent member and has veto power.

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
36. The Russian Federation
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 02:29 AM
Feb 2022

did not sign onto the UN Charter. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics did. Therefore, Russia is not a legitimate member.

iemanja

(53,035 posts)
25. Kicked off the Security Council
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:28 AM
Feb 2022

Or have their veto revoked, if that's possible. I believe, however, that Russia's veto is written into the UN charter from its very foundation.

iemanja

(53,035 posts)
41. Good point
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 03:59 AM
Feb 2022

But someone pointed out that the Security Council would have to vote on it, and Putin could veto.

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
45. Yeah, I noticed that after posting
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 04:56 AM
Feb 2022

My own thoughts about it.

What can I say? Great minds work alike.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
28. And Russians living abroad should be expelled including in the US.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:35 AM
Feb 2022

Nationalize any properties Russian's own in use and seize them. Expel Russian citizens and send all pregnant Russian women back to Russia to give birth.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
30. Powerful nations dividing up the world to exploit the resources of weaker nations.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 01:58 AM
Feb 2022

The UN is powerless to do anything.

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