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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:05 AM Feb 2022

You Guys Can't Imagine How Stupid Rick Scott Actually Is

https://crooksandliars.com/2022/02/you-guys-cant-imagine-how-stupid-rick

You Guys Can't Imagine How Stupid Rick Scott Actually Is
Rick Scott thinks he's proposing a new "contract with America," but his "plan" raises taxes on middle-class retirees. REALLY.
By Frances Langum — February 23, 2022


Rick Scott is so stupid he doesn't even know when he has committed political suicide.

It's a little late for Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) to pretend he *didn't* propose tax increases on tens of millions of lower-income Americans. He literally put it in writing. https://t.co/uz99i2TE2E

— Steve Benen (@stevebenen) February 23, 2022


Rick Scott's "plan," which insists that everyone should have "skin in the game" of federal spending by paying federal income tax.

Thing is, many Americans, including retirees and students, don't make enough money to pay federal INCOME tax, but they do pay payroll taxes, sales taxes, and property taxes.

Whatever happened to the Tea (Taxed Enough Already) Party?

Lawrence O'Donnell explained on Tuesday night's Last Word: "One of the problems of putting really rich guys in charge of public policy is that generally they don't know anything about it and this is proof of it. Rick Scott has never seen a paycheck, and so he doesn't understand that the people he thinks are not paying federal taxes are paying withholding: payroll taxes every week in their paychecks. And in fact, two-thirds, two-thirds of American taxpayers pay more in payroll taxes than they do in federal income taxes, and Rick Scott wants to push up their federal income taxes!"

Jennifer Rubin was flabbergasted. "You know, as a former Republican, I'm sort of appalled at the political stupidity of this. My gosh," she said.

JENNIFER RUBIN: There is nothing in there that speaks to any kind of cost control, drugs, health care. There is nothing in there about educating children, pre-k, universal pre-k, about any kind of education plan. There is nothing in there that actually helps Americans. And this is very telling. Because the Republican Party is no longer in the business of helping Americans, or even trying to. It is a grievance club. It is a machine that creates content for Fox News. And that's what this thing is. It's sort of throws every buzzword, every phrase up against the wall and sees it sticks. Whether it's "CRT", whether it's books, whether it's abortion, whether it's the wall, and they just think that this is going to buy enough votes for them. Now, the problem is this what they're saying is really pretty unpopular. There is a new poll out today from CBS/YouGov, which everyone should look a look at, which shows Americans overwhelmingly do not want to ban books. Americans overwhelmingly want race to be taught in their schools, Americans overwhelmingly think race is an issue. And even more, they think it is a historical issue. Americans are not as dumb as Republicans think they are. And putting this all out there gives Democrats what they have been looking for. They don't want this to be a referendum, things go wrong when you are in power. And things happen that are beyond their control, like inflation. But if you make this a choice between the guys who are really trying their hardest, and made a lot of progress, and the guys who live off in cuckoo land and want to raise your taxes? That's an election that Democrats could actually win. That's why Rick Scott has some sort of, given hope to Democrats that maybe they can pull a rabbit out of the hat for this election.


"My opponent wants to ban books" seems to be one of the easiest and truest attacks you can make on just about any Republican candidate alive. https://t.co/bcZKB0x3hl

— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) February 23, 2022

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You Guys Can't Imagine How Stupid Rick Scott Actually Is (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2022 OP
Everybody pays taxes. Net maybe no but they pay during the year. underpants Feb 2022 #1
Stupid and evil . ..... Lovie777 Feb 2022 #2
Is this so they can suppress more of their voters? Omnipresent Feb 2022 #3
Matthew Cawthorne is proposing the same onethatcares Feb 2022 #4
Scott, and all republicans..... SergeStorms Feb 2022 #5
Rubin nailed it: "...a machine that creates content for Fox News..." sop Feb 2022 #6
Exactly what I said when commenting on the Madison Cawthorn post. XacerbatedDem Feb 2022 #11
i guess to scott, me having worked since I was 13 isn't enough skin in the game. Javaman Feb 2022 #7
Then Cawthorn says, "Hold my beer." William Seger Feb 2022 #8
Republican voters are so brainwashed they won't care Dopers_Greed Feb 2022 #9
He went from orchestrating the largest medicare fraud case to becoming a U.S. senator spanone Feb 2022 #10
So true,, and his CONstituents just ignored that fact. LIke ignoring TFG's fraud tactics...nt mitch96 Feb 2022 #14
Absolutely. spanone Feb 2022 #17
Scott has excellent credentials to be a NCjack Feb 2022 #23
Cawthorn Traildogbob Feb 2022 #12
Senator Ted Cruz, Governor Greg Abbott. Paladin Feb 2022 #13
And don't forget EVIL... these guys cause pain and grief and do so WILLINGLY... Raster Feb 2022 #18
"How Stupid Rick Scott Actually Is".. I had to live thru 8 years of this grifter and his bullshit mitch96 Feb 2022 #15
Columbia/HCA: Largest Medicare FRAUD in history... Raster Feb 2022 #20
He truly does suck as a person. He is just a shill for the 1%... nt mitch96 Feb 2022 #35
RepubliQons are now officially the Tax And Spend party. By their own hand, in writing. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #16
"You are a asshole" - Woman yells at gov. Scott (Few years back) packman Feb 2022 #19
As John Stewart said, the rich don't want to tax the poor because they have no skin in the game Johonny Feb 2022 #21
We in Florida had Bill Nelson as our senator. iscooterliberally Feb 2022 #22
Republicans don't give a shit what Americans want durablend Feb 2022 #24
Thank You for posting...K and R Stuart G Feb 2022 #25
If the filthy rich think the poor don't pay payroll taxes Farmer-Rick Feb 2022 #26
Fun interaction with young people The Jungle 1 Feb 2022 #27
Hey rickety are you going to make corporate America pay taxes? The Jungle 1 Feb 2022 #28
Actually, I don't think he is really stupid. It's that ordinary Americans are not real to him. halfulglas Feb 2022 #29
The 5th Amendment seems to be just a tool for white collar crime. world wide wally Feb 2022 #30
The Democrats need to use the concept of raising taxes on the poor and the elderly against the GOP/M LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #31
I see stuff like this, from a former smug "I got mine and you don't" Republican calimary Feb 2022 #32
The summation makes me think of an old SNL skit. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2022 #33
Rick Scott is not stupid, he's bloodless. hay rick Feb 2022 #34

underpants

(182,829 posts)
1. Everybody pays taxes. Net maybe no but they pay during the year.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:11 AM
Feb 2022

This is the same as “welfare checks in Cadillacs”.

Omnipresent

(5,714 posts)
3. Is this so they can suppress more of their voters?
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:27 AM
Feb 2022

So they can say, when they’ve lost that even more cheating happened in 2022?

Are they just trying to spark a revolution?

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
4. Matthew Cawthorne is proposing the same
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:35 AM
Feb 2022

or a version really close to it.

How do we get our fellow Americans to pay attention to this and vote for their best interests.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
5. Scott, and all republicans.....
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:43 AM
Feb 2022

believe that every American is as ignorant as their loyal supporters.

Like Trump crowing that, "I love the uneducated." Republicans really, really love the uneducated.

But most Americans are not totally uneducated. You don't have to have a degree from any college. You just have to recognize total bullshit when you hear it. You just have to know when someone is pissing down your neck, then telling you it's raining. Being educated can mean street smarts. Knowing when someone is blowing smoke at you, yanking your chain, pulling your leg.

MAGAts don't have that ability. They actually believe Donald Trump is looking out for them. They believe Trump tells it like it is. They believe Trump is going to make America great again. They even believe Trump is a success, a self-made man. You know, they're dumber than a basket full of hair.

So no, Mr. Scott, Americans aren't all as dumb as your republican supporters. You can tell them you're not going to raise their taxes, right after announcing that you're raising their taxes, but not all of them are going to believe you. I'd say the vast majority of them aren't going to believe you, but you stick it out, stand right there on top of that hill.......and die. Asshole.

sop

(10,193 posts)
6. Rubin nailed it: "...a machine that creates content for Fox News..."
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:45 AM
Feb 2022

"There is nothing in there that actually helps Americans. And this is very telling. Because the Republican Party is no longer in the business of helping Americans, or even trying to. It is a grievance club. It is a machine that creates content for Fox News. And that's what this thing is. It sort of throws every buzzword, every phrase up against the wall and sees (if) it sticks. Whether it's CRT, whether it's books, whether it's abortion, whether it's the wall, and they just think that this is going to buy enough votes for them."

XacerbatedDem

(511 posts)
11. Exactly what I said when commenting on the Madison Cawthorn post.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:25 AM
Feb 2022

These guys are just trying to get on Faux news, they don't care how, they just throw anything against the wall to see if it sticks. That's some sick shit.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
7. i guess to scott, me having worked since I was 13 isn't enough skin in the game.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:54 AM
Feb 2022

I'm 58 and still working.

scott's just another sociopath.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
9. Republican voters are so brainwashed they won't care
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:20 AM
Feb 2022

My grandmother was a hardcore Fox viewer, and she said she'd be willing to give up part of her SS payments to help build the border wall.

I'm not even making this up.

spanone

(135,844 posts)
17. Absolutely.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:06 AM
Feb 2022

In 1994, Columbia Hospital Corporation merged with HCA, "forming the single largest for-profit health care company in the country." Scott became CEO of Columbia/HCA.[29] According to The New York Times, "[in] less than a decade, Mr. Scott had built a company he founded with two small hospitals in El Paso into the world's largest health care company – a $20 billion giant with about 350 hospitals, 550 home health care offices and scores of other medical businesses in 38 states."[30]

On March 19, 1997, investigators from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Internal Revenue Service and the Department of Health and Human Services served search warrants at Columbia/HCA facilities in El Paso and on dozens of doctors with suspected ties to the company.[31] Eight days after the initial raid, Scott signed his last SEC report as a hospital executive. Four months later, the board of directors pressured him to resign as chairman and CEO.[32] He was succeeded by Thomas F. Frist Jr.[33] Scott was paid $9.88 million in a settlement, and left owning 10 million shares of stock then worth more than $350 million.[34][35][36] The directors had been warned in the company's annual public reports to stockholders that incentives Columbia/HCA offered doctors could run afoul of a federal anti-kickback law passed in order to limit or eliminate instances of conflicts of interest in Medicare and Medicaid.[33]

During Scott's 2000 deposition, he pleaded the Fifth Amendment 75 times.[37] In settlements reached in 2000 and 2002, Columbia/HCA pleaded guilty to 14 felonies and agreed to a $600+ million fine in what was at the time the largest health care fraud settlement in U.S. history. Columbia/HCA admitted systematically overcharging the government by claiming marketing costs as reimbursable, by striking illegal deals with home care agencies, and by filing false data about use of hospital space. It also admitted to fraudulently billing Medicare and other health programs by inflating the seriousness of diagnoses and to giving doctors partnerships in company hospitals as a kickback for the doctors referring patients to HCA. It filed false cost reports, fraudulently billing Medicare for home health care workers, and paid kickbacks in the sale of home health agencies and to doctors to refer patients. In addition, it gave doctors "loans" never intending to be repaid, free rent, free office furniture, and free drugs from hospital pharmacies.[38][7]

In late 2002, HCA agreed to pay the United States government $631 million, plus interest, and $17.5 million to state Medicaid agencies, in addition to $250 million paid up to that point to resolve outstanding Medicare expense claims.[39] In all, civil lawsuits cost HCA more than $2 billion to settle; at the time, this was the largest fraud settlement in U.S. history.[40][41]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Scott

Traildogbob

(8,756 posts)
12. Cawthorn
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:30 AM
Feb 2022

Should propose ending SSDI and get the lazy ass disability people off their asses and get to work. Not like he has been receiving a Check his whole adult life, from self inflected injuries. And NEVER had a job to pay into it.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
18. And don't forget EVIL... these guys cause pain and grief and do so WILLINGLY...
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:10 AM
Feb 2022

...to enrich their bank accounts and political careers. They have done the calculations and decided that inflicting misery on others is a worthwhile endeavor.

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
15. "How Stupid Rick Scott Actually Is".. I had to live thru 8 years of this grifter and his bullshit
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:54 AM
Feb 2022

He sold his soul to the lobbys and big interests in Florida. With his wealth he just bought the governor and senate seat. If you want to know how to scam a corporation or a state,
tricky Rick is your man...
m

Raster

(20,998 posts)
20. Columbia/HCA: Largest Medicare FRAUD in history...
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:13 AM
Feb 2022

#SenatorSkeletor took the Fifth 75 times during his deposition.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
21. As John Stewart said, the rich don't want to tax the poor because they have no skin in the game
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:14 AM
Feb 2022

but because the poor still have a little skin and they want it all!

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
22. We in Florida had Bill Nelson as our senator.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:22 AM
Feb 2022

Now we're stuck with the confused puppet of the former Trump administration and an empty suit who likes do drive around tweeting bible verses. Florida has no one to represent them in the senate. We only have two jack asses who represent themselves.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
24. Republicans don't give a shit what Americans want
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:38 AM
Feb 2022

"Now, the problem is this what they're saying is really pretty unpopular. There is a new poll out today from CBS/YouGov, which everyone should look a look at, which shows Americans overwhelmingly do not want to ban books. Americans overwhelmingly want race to be taught in their schools, Americans overwhelmingly think race is an issue. And even more, they think it is a historical issue. Americans are not as dumb as Republicans think they are. "


The whole point of what the GQP is pushing is "we tell you how things are, nevermind what you 'want' "

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
26. If the filthy rich think the poor don't pay payroll taxes
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:41 AM
Feb 2022

How do they think the system works? Do they think we get all our payroll taxes back when we file? Or it magically disappears when the filthy rich get subsidies?

He really is stupid and his worshippers are just as stupid.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
27. Fun interaction with young people
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:49 AM
Feb 2022

I love to explain to young people that I will give up SS. After they pay me all the money I paid in and my employers paid in and interest. But they will have to pay for their own children's education. It makes their jaw drop. I have one friend who has 6 kids in school. In my area education for one kid is around 20 grand a year. I and my employers paid in 234,247.00. Add in a reasonable interest rate and I will have enough to buy a really nice annuity. An annuity that will pay out the entire amount even if I die.
Yes I will need to pay school tax until my children's education is paid for. I own several properties so that bill is paid.
We all hate other peoples socialism.
I just signed up for SS. They will start giving me my money back in May. That is the other thing youth does not understand.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
28. Hey rickety are you going to make corporate America pay taxes?
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:52 AM
Feb 2022

Shouldn't they have skin in the game.
How about the NFL? Ya gonna make them pay taxes???

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
29. Actually, I don't think he is really stupid. It's that ordinary Americans are not real to him.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:53 AM
Feb 2022

He is so rich with his ill-gotten gains that he doesn't really think of us lesser beings at all other than robots to follow HIS rules. He thinks that taxes mean income taxes, which even I as a retiree have to file to make sure I'm not "making too much" with my Social Security and 401K.

Every single Democrat running should pound this asshole's scheme at every opportunity.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
31. The Democrats need to use the concept of raising taxes on the poor and the elderly against the GOP/M
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:10 PM
Feb 2022

Rick Scott really does want to raise taxes on the poor and the elderly.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
32. I see stuff like this, from a former smug "I got mine and you don't" Republican
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:22 PM
Feb 2022

and I find myself thinking “what’s this? ‘There is nothing in there that speaks to any kind of cost control, drugs, health care. There is nothing in there about educating children, pre-k, universal pre-k, about any kind of education plan. There is nothing in there that actually helps Americans….’ well, well, well. When did YOU start caring about something beyond your own pocketbook? When did YOU finally wake up?”

I realize Jennifer Rubin didn’t just start backing away this morning from the cruel, callous, imperious selfish, short-sighted, UNcompassionate, narrow-minded thinking of the GOP. She’s been easing herself off that politically-drugged state for awhile.

But it still made me smirk.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
33. The summation makes me think of an old SNL skit.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:52 PM
Feb 2022

Dana Carvey as GHWB, and Jon Lovitz as Dukakis were having a debate. DC's opening statement was full of gibberish, and consisted mainly of "a thousand points of light" and "stay the course."

JL's opening statement was "I can't believe I'm losing to this guy."

hay rick

(7,624 posts)
34. Rick Scott is not stupid, he's bloodless.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 01:10 PM
Feb 2022

Like Trump, he is devoid of empathy and humor. His appeal is always to people's worst angels.

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