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Putin plans to denazify Ukraine, weird cause President Zelensky is Jewish. (Original Post) Swede Feb 2022 OP
Putin is a fascist. Typical Russian projection. nt Wicked Blue Feb 2022 #1
Putin has been acting odd lately LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #2
More Russian lies! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #3
K&R, Clark on CNN is saying the main goal is to seize Keiv and take over the government uponit7771 Feb 2022 #4
Yep. Both the president and prime minister of Ukraine are Jewish. dalton99a Feb 2022 #5
It is not for us, sarisataka Feb 2022 #6
After the Holodomor, can you blame them. Swede Feb 2022 #7
They had great reason to hate Stalin sarisataka Feb 2022 #8
Being a neighbor of Russia is a terrible thing. Swede Feb 2022 #9
The target of this message is western leftists. mathematic Feb 2022 #10
There are populist militias in Ukraine that are called "Neo-Nazi": the Azov Brigade. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #11
Ukrainian Jews Angry and Appalled at Putin's 'Denazification' Claim LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #12
Bullshit wartime propaganda. moondust Feb 2022 #13
Projection. Behind the Aegis Feb 2022 #14

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
6. It is not for us,
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:02 PM
Feb 2022

The target audience is the Russian people. It will resonate with them as Russia remembers their history much better than we do. They will also remember many Ukrainians welcomed the Nazi invasion and the 14th SS-Volunteer Division "Galicia"

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
8. They had great reason to hate Stalin
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:21 PM
Feb 2022

Eventually they found they were the frog carrying the scorpion

However many, if not most, Russians will only remember the parts Putin highlights

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
10. The target of this message is western leftists.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:26 PM
Feb 2022

Look around the internet and see how many leftist sources are trying to draw a connection between Ukraine and nazis.

There's a piece on counterpunch from 2/11, which I won't link because fuck those guys, that has the following in it: "Right now, NATO is fueling a resurgence of Nazism in Ukraine for the sake of a stronger position in its struggle with Russia. "

Putin will catch a few rightwingers with this messaging too, of course, but you can't really expect rightwingers to parrot and amplify "getting rid of nazis is good", for obvious reasons.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
11. There are populist militias in Ukraine that are called "Neo-Nazi": the Azov Brigade.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:42 PM
Feb 2022

It's not the vast majority of Ukrainians, but that is the propaganda story that Putin's compliant media are selling.

It is also being sold here in the US. Google "Ukraine Neonazi" and 10 zillion stories pop up. I saw that accusation on a HS friends' FB post 3 days ago - presumably from a US veteran. Then yesterday the same accusation came out of Putin's creepy mouth.

There are populist militias in the United States that I call Neo-Nazi. You all know who they are, and you know they're a small minority.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
12. Ukrainian Jews Angry and Appalled at Putin's 'Denazification' Claim
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 02:38 PM
Feb 2022



Ukrainian Jews expressed outrage Thursday after Russian troops entered their country on a self-declared mission of “denazification” after claims that Kyiv was actively carrying out war crimes against its own citizens.

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President Vladimir Putin stated in an address to the Russian people on Thursday morning that “the purpose of this operation is to protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kyiv regime.

“To this end, we will seek to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, as well as bring to trial those who perpetrated numerous bloody crimes against civilians – including against citizens of the Russian Federation,” he said, condemning “far-right nationalists and neo-Nazis in Ukraine.”

Shortly after the speech, the Ukrainian government's official Twitter account posted a depiction of Adolf Hitler proudly caressing the face of Putin. It wrote: "This is nto a 'meme,' but our and your reality right now."

moondust

(19,993 posts)
13. Bullshit wartime propaganda.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 02:48 PM
Feb 2022

Meant to trigger the Russian people into remembering the "great war" against the Nazi enemies and unite them in support. Maybe also pick up some support from Nazi haters elsewhere.

Like the "genocide in eastern Ukraine" claim: bullshit.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
14. Projection.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 03:36 PM
Feb 2022

Also, it plays well with Putin's allies in other nations, including ours, on both sides of the political spectrum. There is a fascination of people like him and his allies, to use "Nazi" when it's their behavior which is 'Nazi-like', and they get bonus points, especially with extremists, if the Nazi terminology is used against Jews!

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