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relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
1. Agreed
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 12:44 AM
Feb 2022

Not any more. They hold off the Russians, his name will be as prominent as George Washington is to us.

dchill

(38,505 posts)
5. He wasn't a president, but he played one on TV.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 12:51 AM
Feb 2022

To be sure, I've seen many comedians that would make better world leaders than what we usually get.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
13. Better a comedian than a blowhard "billionaire."
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 01:14 AM
Feb 2022

Comedians know not to take themselves too seriously and usually punch up instead of down.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
6. He's viewed as a hero by people around the world. He's essentially godlike in his own country.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 12:53 AM
Feb 2022

Citizenship and requirements aside, if he and his country survive, he could be elected the leader of almost every free country in the world. His own country will build monuments, statues, schools, buildings and roads named after him. His people will name their children after him. He's become an historic figure in the country's history.

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
7. Damn! And here I thought the Star Spangled Banner and La Marseillaise were militaristic.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 12:57 AM
Feb 2022

"We are of the Cossack Nation." Not a people to be trifled with.

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
12. Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 01:07 AM
Feb 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks

Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks depicts a supposedly historical tableau, set in 1676, and based on the legend of Cossacks sending an insulting reply to an ultimatum from the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, Mehmed IV. According to the story, the Zaporozhian Cossacks (from "beyond the rapids", Ukrainian: za porohamy), inhabiting the lands around the lower Dnieper River in Ukraine, had defeated Ottoman Empire forces in battle. However, Mehmed demanded that the Cossacks submit to Ottoman rule. The Cossacks, led by Ivan Sirko, replied in a characteristic manner; they wrote a letter, replete with insults and profanities. The painting exhibits the Cossacks' pleasure at striving to come up with ever more base vulgarities.


Mehmed IV, Ottoman Sultan 1648–1687



Sultan Mehmed IV to the Zaporozhian Cossacks:

As the Sultan; son of Muhammad; brother of the sun and moon; grandson and viceroy of God; ruler of the kingdoms of Macedonia, Babylon, Jerusalem, Upper and Lower Egypt; emperor of emperors; sovereign of sovereigns; extraordinary knight, never defeated; steadfast guardian of the tomb of Jesus Christ; trustee chosen by God Himself; the hope and comfort of Muslims; confounder and great defender of Christians – I command you, the Zaporogian Cossacks, to submit to me voluntarily and without any resistance, and to desist from troubling me with your attacks.

— Turkish Sultan Mehmed IV


The Cossacks' reply came as a stream of invective and vulgar rhymes:



Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are thou, that canst not slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil shits, and your army eats. Thou shalt not, thou son of a whore, make subjects of Christian sons. We have no fear of your army; by land and by sea we will battle with thee. Fuck thy mother.

Thou Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-fucker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before God, grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow. Screw thine own mother!

So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord. The day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!

— Koshovyi otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host





Shoulder sleeve insignia of the Ukrainian Army's 55th Artillery Brigade "Zaporozhian Sich"

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
14. The Ukrainians see themselves as the inheritors of the Cossack tradition.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 01:15 AM
Feb 2022

Again, not a people to be trifled with.

If Putin captures Kyiv and installs a puppet government, the insurgency will make Afghanistan look like a Sunday School picnic. Any Ukrainian collaborator who serves a puppet government, should keep a go-bag behind the door.

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