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Russia's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman has said that Moscow would have to respond if Sweden and Finland intended to join NATO.
Maria Zakharova held a press conference on Friday and reflected on the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and the intentions of Russia going forward.
A clip of her speech has begun to go viral on social media as she appears to issue a threat aimed at Sweden and Finland, saying it would have "serious military-political repercussions." The video has amassed over 300,000 views.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-issues-ominous-warning-to-finland-sweden-should-they-join-nato/ar-AAUjbF1
roamer65
(36,745 posts)lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)and we need to stand up to this school yard bully.
"If you pay the Danegeld you never get rid of the Dane."
Fuck Putin
Raine
(30,540 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Looks at Ukraine's situation now, and the damage being done to their country.
DFW
(54,405 posts)About the only thing I can think of to get Finland and Sweden to even contemplate joining NATO would be a Russian warning them not to.
"Just in case we determine it necessary to invade you guys, we thought it would be nice if we were sure NATO won't be coming to your aid as NATO members."
Yep, that's REALLY reassuring to a small, traditionally neutral country an hour's flight from St. Petersburg.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)DFW
(54,405 posts)Even if history has shown it not to have been always respected, THEY have always wanted it, and if that is the desire of a majority of their populations, then that's how it should be.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)How are things where you are?
Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)... this is a blunder. My heritage is Swedish. My relatives there are numerous... there is a Trump-like group, led by anti-immigrant feelings. However, it is a minority. A majority of Swedes like not being part of Russian or American "control" areas. Of course, the culture aligns more with the "west" - but they like their independence. NATO has been an issue, and now it's much-discussed. Russian propaganda says the Ukraine "crisis" is caused by NATO. Some consider this theory has merit... but the Swedes and Scandinavian neighbors are turned OFF by this war. What turns them OFF even more is being told, by Russia, what groups they can and can not join. They went EU and will consider NATO, especially with yahoos like Russian Foreign Minister Maria Zakharova telling them NO. That's a PUSH to join.
Emile
(22,789 posts)MFM008
(19,816 posts)probably dont give a shit what putty wants.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)But, squint again, and Ukranians could be former Swedish vikings
https://www.history.com/news/vikings-in-russia-kiev-rus-varangians-prince-oleg
Vikings - they were going places.
Vikings seem to be the SPAM of the middle ages.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Russian/USSR imperialism is, after all, THE big reason NATO was created, growing to 30 nations over the past 70 years and more currently in the process of joining.
From what I recall, neutrality worked for Sweden in WWII because of its geography up there -- big cost to conquer for little gain. Finland allied with Germany to, guess what? -- get back land taken by Russia.
They may not want to join NATO, but the stability and military defense secured for most of Europe by NATO has of course provided real security, if not total, but who has that?
It's easy to predict neither will ask to join NATO if Russia itself doesn't force them to. Whether NATO would allow them with Nuclear Russia threatening war if they did is another question.
Of course, those 30 nations? Russia's history is of forcing nations to seek NATO protection.