How about supplying road side bombs to the military, people, of Ukraine?

[fightforfreedom]

We Americans know what a nightmare road side bombs can be too troops.

[vlyons]

1. How you going to get them to the Ukrainians?

Air space is closed, so no air drops. Neither NATO nor American troop are going in to deliver anything.

[fightforfreedom]

2. Smuggle them across the border.

It can be done.

[USALiberal]

3. Lol, I'm sure that they have their best people working on it!

[fightforfreedom]

5. This about it.

We are talking artillery shells. They are not mines. Supply them with artillery shells and the Military, people of Ukraine can make their own cell phone detonators.

[Paladin]

19. Yeah, might as well have some FUN with this war!

Before the dead body photos start getting wide circulation.

Who gets to star in the movie? How about Rock as the gentle schoolteacher/soccer coach turned Russian troop killer, with Sly Stallone as his aged, battle-scarred advisor? Fun, fun, fun...

[harumph]

24. I'd Buy That For a Dollar!

[Voltaire2]

4. All of our European Allies are signatories

to the Ottawa treaty banning anti personnel mines. So that would be a bad idea.

[TheBlackAdder]

28. Yep. Unattended mines hurt a lot of civilians and especially children.

[FSogol]

6. Sorry to disappoint, but the war crimes are being committed by Russia, not Ukraine

And NATO.

[fightforfreedom]

8. Don't you remember Iraq?

The people of Iraq kicked the shit out us with road side bombs.You take an artillery shell, bury it on the side of the road, When a Russian military vehicle drives by you set it off with a cell phone. It is almost impossible to defend against.

[FSogol]

21. So we should act like terrorists?

[BGBD]

36. They should do that's effective

If that includes planting bombs beside the road and blowing up Russian APCs driving by then that's what they should do.

[fightforfreedom]

9. War crimes?

Right now this is the Russian military vs the Ukraine military. Soon the Russia military will defeat the Ukraine military. Then it becomes guerrilla warfare. There are no rules in guerrilla warfare. You blow up bridges, roads, railroad tracks, buildings, whatever it takes.

[hlthe2b]

7. And you would avoid innocent Ukrainian casualties, how?

Not to mention this violates the Anti-Personnel Landmine Convention
https://blogs.icrc.org/law-and-policy/2019/09/17/ieds-mine-ban-convention/

[Throck]

10. Do the Russians play by any rules?

[hlthe2b]

11. So you don't care about Ukrainian civilian casualties?

[Throck]

13. I think the Russians have it covered.

[Chainfire]

17. Waging aggressive war is also a crime.

IEDs don't just go off by magic, they are triggered remotely by some hero, who is observing the bomb, and is probably going to give his life for the honor. They want to sell their lives as dearly as possible, and that is not by taking out granny and the kids on the way to a picnic.

War is the dissolution law. I support the means of the Ukrainians to defend themselves from the invaders by any means at their disposal. That would include waging a partisan war against "soft targets" inside of Russia until the Russian troops return to their own damn country. The Russian people are responsible for the actions of their government. Let them know that there is a price for continuing support for leadership that starts war in a lust for power, fame and fortune.

Russians know that in war, civilians die. They came anyway.

[hlthe2b]

18. What a response,,. "IEDs only effectively take out the enemy." Did you learn NOTHING from Iraq

and Afghanistan? No civilian deaths there from the "heroes" as you term them. Good "gawd"...

Please don't fall out of your Lazyboy... as you dismiss civilian "collateral" damage.

[harumph]

26. Dude, you don't know what you're talking about.

Road side IEDs were directed at military targets and supply convoys. There's a difference between that
and a suicide bomber going into a marketplace - because military targets are legitimate targets.
Do you have an interest in conflating the two?

[hlthe2b]

31. Directed does NOT imply without collateral civilian deaths. On THAT, "DUDE",

It is YOU who needs to educate yourself

[sarisataka]

34. Have you seen the aftermath of such weapons?

I have, in person. It's not unusual for there to be "collateral damage"

Also Ukraine is still very much in the battle. It would make far more sense to use the artillery shell for its intended purpose.

[harumph]

25. You're fucking kidding right?

[hlthe2b]

32. I don't "kid" about innocent civilian deaths. If that is funny to YOU, you have no

Reason to be here.

[Dirty Socialist]

12. Molotov Cocktails

Zelensky told Ukrainians to throw Molotovs at Russian tanks.
Vodka bottles: they aren’t just good for drinking out of!

[Chainfire]

14. They don't call roadside bombs "Improvised" explosive devices (IED) for nothing.

I am sure that the Ukrainians will improvise as needed. You can bet that, all over Ukraine, today, there are future partisans burying explosives in secret caches, just in case. The Russians may well win the war, but lose the peace.

Putin will face the same problem that we faced in Viet Nam and Afghanistan. The only sure way to secure the "peace" would have been to kill every native in the country.

[fightforfreedom]

15. You get what I am saying.

[honest.abe]

16. RPG's would be more effective.

Small lightweight powerful. Easy to ship to Ukraine by truck or rail from the West.

[Dirty Socialist]

33. Germany just agreed to shipping some

‘Bout time

[burrowowl]

20. In WWII

People made antitank bombs out of pressure cookers an ingredients found around the house, precursors of IEDs.

[FSogol]

22. As a now banned member once wrote, "The technique is called "zealotry trolling"

The purpose is to draw out the minority of DU members who are angry enough and naive enough to jump on the bandwagon, thus making the site as a whole look more like a bunch of unreasonable extremists and hypocrites."

[harumph]

27. That is absurd.

You want the Ukrainian civilians to play by some rules while they're being attacked by a well equipped army?
Are you honestly pushing that? There's nothing "reasonable" about fighting for your survival. You do anything and
everything within your power. The Russians aren't a bunch of school kids. They know the risk of going into
a territory where they are not wanted. One of the risks is that civilians lacking military equipment will resort to
bombs, booby traps etc., and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm dumbfounded that you seem to think so.
Our military has faced this in several wars incl. the Vietnam war. I mean it sucks when you step on sharpened
bamboo, or when you unintentionally trigger a grenade and your leg is blown off. That is the nature
of asymmetric warfare.

[FSogol]

29. The OP was advocating the US supply "road side" (sic) bombs.

I said nothing about how Ukraine fight their war.

[fightforfreedom]

30. I said nothing about the US supplying them. It could come from us, from any NATO country.

When you say road side bomb, you are talking about a type of explosive device, like an artillery shell that could be turned into a road side bomb if needed. The people of Ukraine are going to need many types of explosives when this turns into guerrilla warfare.

During world war II, resistance fighters were supplied with explosive devices or explosives that they could be turn into a bomb. They blew up bridges, railroads, dams, buildings.

What do you think the chances are the CIA already has a covert operation supplying the People of Ukraine with explosives, things they need?

[AngryOldDem]

23. They need more sophisticated weapons than that.

And as much as I think our response to all of this has been correct and within the legal limits, all possible aid needs to be sent now. I found it a bit off-putting that Zelenskyy was offered safety outside Ukraine when it is abundantly clear that the man is willing to stay, fight, and possibly die for his country. A true leader.

[sarisataka]

35. Anyone with some knowledge

Of chemistry can make an improvised explosive.

How about sending weapons that can help them fight the Russians rather than just annoy them?