Two Russian 'saboteurs' go on a rampage, shooting at civilians

[ffr]

Last edited Sat Feb 26, 2022, 07:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Two Russian ‘saboteurs’ are gunned down after stealing Ukrainian military truck
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10550975/Russian-TANK-crushes-civilian-car-Kyiv-suburb-elderly-driver-miraculously-rescued.html

The Tweet is misleading, though the atrocities are not.

WARNING. Contains graphic content of civilians being killed and shot at.

Link to tweet

Putin=Hitler

[no_hypocrisy]

1. You don't win a war by creating martyrs.

[uponit7771]

2. K&R, the driver lived ... they pulled him out after the APC left

[ffr]

6. Miraculous, when the intend was to kill.

Do anyone know the status of the first vehicle that was shot at and never moved afterwards?

[Hoyt]

3. Looks to me tank may have lost control at speed. Sad, in any event. Car driver actually survived.

[CANADIANBEAVER69]

7. really? that is what you see?

That was a direct speed up and drive over and then back again move. They knew what they were doing and it was no accidental loss of control.

[Hoyt]

11. Yep, that is what I saw. But thanks for what your perspective.

[CANADIANBEAVER69]

13. ok, direct drive over isn't something you see there.

noted

[ffr]

10. Clearly a game of chicken in a head-on

The intent was to kill, run over the vehicle. I imagine the driver was swerving to avoid collision, which is why the APC was swerving to cause the impact.

[msongs]

14. out of control was my first impression as well nt

[Strelnikov_]

28. Agree, looked like a spin out to me.

Appeared to be some sort of engineering vehicle. Question is, where are the other units? If this is an example of the haphazard way they are deploying, the Ukrainian's may have a chance.

[dchill]

4. Putin equals Hitler?

Not until he kills himself in a bunker.

[ffr]

8. People already thinking ahead

[dchill]

9. Hit fast forward.

[Bev54]

5. I saw this yesterday, they did say the fellow in the car survived

Not sure how, but it seems the Russians can be as brutal as their leader.

[Bobstandard]

12. You're thinking of a different video

And even the claim that the occupant of that one is now suspect. Lots of disinformation going around and lots of trolls to move it.

(The APC driver lost control. That’s a a good one.)

[dumbcat]

15. From a source in the intel community:

A reminder to be skeptical of any initial reports or claims tonight, including from Russian or Ukrainian government sources. Many people said this was a Russian tank in Kyiv this morning, but it is a Strela-10 air defense system and is almost certainly Ukrainian.

It's from a tweet, but my friend in the business says it is accurate. He is very well connected to the current situation.

[Hoyt]

16. It's interesting what people believe here when it suits them. Thanks for your post.

[Kaleva]

19. Both Russia and Ukraine use the system

There are reports that this was a Ukrainian vehicle stolen by pro Russian sabatours who were soon later killed by Ukrainian forces

[dumbcat]

20. That is true

My friend believes it was a Ukrainian vehicle due to other info he has available.

I had not heard the reports that it was stolen by pro-Russian saboteurs. That would be convenient. I'll try to see if my friend has heard of that.

[ffr]

22. Link to reports?

And can we cut with the snark and be serious? If you know something and have proof to refute what is being shared, please provide it and keep the personal commentary about how 'reports' show you are more informed that the rest of us to a minimum.

TY.

[Kaleva]

23. What snark? Both Ukraine and Russia use the Strela-10 air defense system

And the DUer I replied to agreed with what I said about both Ukraine and Russia operating the system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K35_Strela-10#Operators

And I agreed with him that the vehicle very likely was Ukrainian.

"The collision occurred in Kyiv's Obolon district on Friday. The tank is believed to have been driven by pro-Russian 'saboteurs'.

The tank is believed to be a Strela-10 — an anti-aircraft vehicle used by both the Russian and Ukrainian armies. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10553849/Russian-tank-DELIBERATELY-crushes-car-driving-opposite-road-Ukraine-elderly-driver.html

"As the sound of gunshots echoed off the nearby buildings, a tank - said to have been stolen by Russians - also crashed and crushed a civilian car on the road running past the car park.


Miraculously the driver - an elderly person - survived the shocking smash, and rescuers were later able to free the from the wreckage.

The two incidents were initially reported separately, but a new video clip posted to social media has revealed they were in fact linked, and part of the same skirmish."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10550975/Russian-TANK-crushes-civilian-car-Kyiv-suburb-elderly-driver-miraculously-rescued.html

[ffr]

25. TY for the link.

I'll update the post to reflect this.

[Kaleva]

26. The reason I didn't post links in the original post was that I was using my smart phone

And I don't know how to post links while on the phone. After I saw your post and when I returned home where my laptop is, I was able to make another post with quotes and links.

when it comes to using my smart phone, I'm not all that smart.

[ffr]

27. That's okay. I'm feeling used by all of the misinformation on social media

I think that's the plan. Get people frustrated by the lack of clarity.

Thanks again.

[Calculating]

17. Absolute war crimes

Putin=Hitler 2.0

[Cognitive_Resonance]

18. Driver gunned it coming off the ramp, the left tread lost traction on loose material. In a hurry,

which is understandable given that angry Ukrainians with missiles are everywhere.

[Quixote1818]

21. The driver survived

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/02/26/russian-tank-runs-over-ukrainian-civilian-car-driver-survives/