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If Zelensky is killed, will Putin be able to survive as Russian leader? (Original Post) Doodley Feb 2022 OP
How would that threaten Putin's rule? iemanja Feb 2022 #1
Repercussions from other nations, Putin's standing in the world, PR disaster. Doodley Feb 2022 #8
Putin's survived bad PR for a very long time iemanja Feb 2022 #11
He's losing his ability to control the information that the Russian people can access. Doodley Feb 2022 #15
What if he kills Vitali Klitschko? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2022 #14
Most nations of the world would list him as a war criminal BGBD Feb 2022 #2
Yes, that seems likely. Doodley Feb 2022 #9
I'm more and more convinced that Putin will announce retirement after this is all done... WarGamer Feb 2022 #3
???? iemanja Feb 2022 #5
It's just my theory. WarGamer Feb 2022 #13
that would be fantastic iemanja Feb 2022 #16
Usually that sort of retirement involves something like polonium. nt Gore1FL Feb 2022 #18
A "Roman" style retirement? lol... WarGamer Feb 2022 #21
That's the way I'm calling it too. IrishAfricanAmerican Feb 2022 #22
In the former Soviet Union, now Russia, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #20
In the long tradition of Russian leaders voluntarily leaving office. 11 Bravo Feb 2022 #24
so you're thinking a "Roman Empire" retirement? WarGamer Feb 2022 #25
Works for me. Et tu, Sergei has a nice ring to it. 11 Bravo Feb 2022 #26
The Mayor of Kiev would step up. roamer65 Feb 2022 #4
As a ruthless murdering dictator, he's already set, unless one of his inner circle does him in. Hekate Feb 2022 #6
For a while.... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2022 #7
the odds won't change. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #10
Russians are already protesting. He may be able to rig his elections, but his Doodley Feb 2022 #12
Didn't stop someone else durablend Feb 2022 #17
Autocrats are very difficult to dislodge. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #23
Honestly, I think Putin is on dangerous ground in any case. Happy Hoosier Feb 2022 #19

iemanja

(53,035 posts)
11. Putin's survived bad PR for a very long time
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:13 PM
Feb 2022

He's had no qualms about assassinating dissidents in foreign countries. The British certainly didn't care for those crimes on their soil and called out Putin in response. Putin actually seems to enjoy being an international pariah. He's a strong man who wants the world to know that's what he is.

Have you heard anything about whether the meeting between Zelensky and Putin is actually taking place? Is that how you were thinking about Putin's assassinating Zelensky?

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
2. Most nations of the world would list him as a war criminal
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:05 PM
Feb 2022

and he's be unable to function on the world stage.

WarGamer

(12,449 posts)
3. I'm more and more convinced that Putin will announce retirement after this is all done...
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:06 PM
Feb 2022

For health reasons or whatever... I don't think he's President next year.

iemanja

(53,035 posts)
5. ????
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:07 PM
Feb 2022

He takes over a neighboring country only to retire? Or do you think the oligarchs will force him out?

WarGamer

(12,449 posts)
13. It's just my theory.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:16 PM
Feb 2022

1) The oligarchs are unhappy.

2) The population is unhappy

3) Health issues



I predict some kind of retirement, protection granted for him to live his billionaire life for as long as he has.

A younger more moderate leader, better ties with the west...

WarGamer

(12,449 posts)
21. A "Roman" style retirement? lol...
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:34 PM
Feb 2022

The average Roman Emperor reigned for less than 8 years... lol

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
20. In the former Soviet Union, now Russia,
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:31 PM
Feb 2022

retiring due to health reasons usually meant that one was deposed.

I think the Russian High Command is to re-evaluate their relationship with him as the war gets worse and they'll remove him and his toadies.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
7. For a while....
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:07 PM
Feb 2022

Sooner or later, he will be hunted down like Saddam Hussein was. Hopefully taken alive and shipped to The Hague.

Doodley

(9,093 posts)
12. Russians are already protesting. He may be able to rig his elections, but his
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:13 PM
Feb 2022

ego will be bruised when he sees how little respect he has in and out of Russia.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
23. Autocrats are very difficult to dislodge.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:48 PM
Feb 2022

I don't think I need to make a list; there's plenty of examples from the post-WW2 era. But when they go, it's because they're too old to hang on.

He's not even elderly yet.

Happy Hoosier

(7,314 posts)
19. Honestly, I think Putin is on dangerous ground in any case.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:26 PM
Feb 2022

He is destroying what good will Russia had and the military's mediocre performance is just frankly a huge national embarrassment.

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