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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:55 PM Feb 2022

Now, this is what Ukraine is claiming as the losses Ukraine's military has imposed on Russia

even if its close to the actual numbers its looks like they are hitting hard. @MattMcBradley is
Foreign correspondent for
@MSNBC
and
@NBCNews
based in London. Formerly
@WSJ





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WarGamer

(12,449 posts)
3. I'm not even sure if 100 tanks and 536 APC were destroyed in the first 3 days of Kursk, 1943
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:30 PM
Feb 2022

And that was the greatest armored battle in history.

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
7. I read somewhere that Ukraine's forces are already battle-tested in that eastern region.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:42 PM
Feb 2022

They have been in combat for years apparently.

Russia has not.

Troops that have been fighting are typically much more lethal that green troops.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
10. I've seen saying this too
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 06:24 PM
Feb 2022

Outside of flying bombing sorties and some limited ground deployment of special forces in Syria....the russian military has no combat experience. That's opposed to Ukrainian MIlitary who have been fighting Russian backed seperatists for the past decade.

Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
12. I prefer the original "everyone has a plan" quote
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 06:34 PM
Feb 2022

Helmuth von Moltke (1800–1891).

“No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy’s main strength.”

Today, “no plan survives contact with the enemy” is the popular reconfiguration of this concept."

Mike Tyson gets too much credit for that one.

But yes the Russian Military had a plan and the first encounters/contact have f'ed that plan up.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
8. I hope this is correct.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:45 PM
Feb 2022

Then i went to the Ukraine conflict reddit page, and all the pics and movies of dead Russians and destroyed vehicles and convoys give me hope.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
11. Maybe...
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 06:25 PM
Feb 2022

But if stories of the Ghost of Kiev are true then that's 6 of the 13 right off. Add in the 2 transports that went down, the helicopter that was destroed on the ground and the one. that went into the drink....that's 10 that I can think of right off.

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