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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNow, this is what Ukraine is claiming as the losses Ukraine's military has imposed on Russia
even if its close to the actual numbers its looks like they are hitting hard. @MattMcBradley is
Foreign correspondent for
@MSNBC
and
@NBCNews
based in London. Formerly
@WSJ
Link to tweet
doc03
(35,346 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)WarGamer
(12,449 posts)And that was the greatest armored battle in history.
Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)JanMichael
(24,890 posts)They have been in combat for years apparently.
Russia has not.
Troops that have been fighting are typically much more lethal that green troops.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)Outside of flying bombing sorties and some limited ground deployment of special forces in Syria....the russian military has no combat experience. That's opposed to Ukrainian MIlitary who have been fighting Russian backed seperatists for the past decade.
Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)Helmuth von Moltke (18001891).
No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemys main strength.
Today, no plan survives contact with the enemy is the popular reconfiguration of this concept."
Mike Tyson gets too much credit for that one.
But yes the Russian Military had a plan and the first encounters/contact have f'ed that plan up.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Then i went to the Ukraine conflict reddit page, and all the pics and movies of dead Russians and destroyed vehicles and convoys give me hope.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)But who knows?
But if stories of the Ghost of Kiev are true then that's 6 of the 13 right off. Add in the 2 transports that went down, the helicopter that was destroed on the ground and the one. that went into the drink....that's 10 that I can think of right off.