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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 12:02 AM Feb 2022

"there is going to be a catastrophe"

Sergei Aleksashenko, a former deputy chairman of Russia’s central banks, said “there is going to be a catastrophe” on the Russian currency market on Monday. “I think they will stop trading and then the exchange rate will be fixed at an artificial level just like in Soviet times,” he added.

Michael Farr, chief executive of financial consulting firm Farr, Miller & Washington, said of the impact on global markets: “This could be a surprise that is not taken very well if it means a slowdown in international trade.”


In other words, this could mean one of the worst economic disasters for Russia in decades.

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"there is going to be a catastrophe" (Original Post) yaesu Feb 2022 OP
How could Putin have miscalculated this thing so badly? It's unimaginable. live love laugh Feb 2022 #1
Because he never thought NATO would be united. I suspect he thought that because of everything JohnSJ Feb 2022 #6
Significant isolation for the past two years (supposedly he's very scared of covid); surrounded RockRaven Feb 2022 #7
That is a great summary of the situation. BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #10
I think he also got over confident with Trump in office JI7 Feb 2022 #12
Classic pathology of autocrats cemaphonic Feb 2022 #18
Hope so, well deserved and they may not think but the people of Russia... Thomas Hurt Feb 2022 #2
+1, they don't know any better but Ukrainians do and do NOT want to go back to that bullshit uponit7771 Feb 2022 #4
They overthrew the tsars. wnylib Feb 2022 #11
Question: Does Putler have his cash in other banks? If so then yeah, he's bat shit no doubt uponit7771 Feb 2022 #3
I'm sure if there is a way to hide his money he has found it plus who know how much is hidden yaesu Feb 2022 #5
Forex markets open 10pm GMT on Sunday / 5pm Eastern / 2pm Pacific nilram Feb 2022 #8
It's not going to be a picnic here, either Warpy Feb 2022 #9
I am happy to put up with nuisance to save democracy. SunSeeker Feb 2022 #14
+1 Withywindle Feb 2022 #19
buy a horse & talk to a farmer ! you can move &still eat ! monkeyman1 Feb 2022 #15
Good. Let's grind Russia's economy back to the Stone Age. SunSeeker Feb 2022 #13
Putin begged for it.. Did he Cha Feb 2022 #16
I hope this hurts Russia and no other country Demovictory9 Feb 2022 #17
Hope it hurts anyone siding with pootin, like Belarus. we can do it Feb 2022 #20

JohnSJ

(92,433 posts)
6. Because he never thought NATO would be united. I suspect he thought that because of everything
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 12:21 AM
Feb 2022

trump did to try and destroy NATO

Thank goodness Biden won, because I think things would have been much different if trump got a second term, not only for Ukraine, but for our Democracy, which is still very much at risk from what trump did




RockRaven

(15,019 posts)
7. Significant isolation for the past two years (supposedly he's very scared of covid); surrounded
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 12:22 AM
Feb 2022

by toadies, yes-men, and people afraid of upsetting the dictator; age-related cognitive decline or a neurodegenerative condition; extreme urge to cement a legacy of returning Russia to former glory before he croaks; recent history of the US and Europe being fickle, divided, paper tigers; etc.....

Maybe all of those aren't right (in terms of factoring into his decision-making) but I bet some of them were factors.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
12. I think he also got over confident with Trump in office
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 02:41 AM
Feb 2022

I'm sure they had a plan for this. Trump for sure would not have provided any help to Ukraine and would not have taken the lead in uniting others against Russia .

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
18. Classic pathology of autocrats
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 03:01 AM
Feb 2022

Very hard to get accurate intelligence, or dissenting opinions/alternative options when all of your underlings are terrified of you.

Plus Putin's reputation as some sort of canny political mastermind is wildly overblown. He's carved off a couple slivers from unstable Post-Soviet neighbors at the cost of isolating Russia. With Russia's population and resources, they could be the respected world power he wants to be seen as, instead of a giant nuisance that the world puts up with because of their nukes.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. Hope so, well deserved and they may not think but the people of Russia...
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 12:10 AM
Feb 2022

have a way out. I don't think Russians really understand that though. Too many centuries led by dictators and Tsars.

Stockholm Syndrome at a nation state level.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
5. I'm sure if there is a way to hide his money he has found it plus who know how much is hidden
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 12:14 AM
Feb 2022

in cyber currency or gold.

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
9. It's not going to be a picnic here, either
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 02:31 AM
Feb 2022

Throwing a wrench into the world banking system is going to have consequences for all of us, we're going to see everything slow down, from getting parts to fix your car to getting fruits and veg at the supermarket.

What will be a damned nuisance for us will be a disaster for Russian banks and the oligarchs who own them.

SunSeeker

(51,740 posts)
14. I am happy to put up with nuisance to save democracy.
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 02:51 AM
Feb 2022

Putin has been the cancer eroding democracy since he scammed his way into office. He got Trump elected. He needs to be defeated.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
19. +1
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 03:13 AM
Feb 2022

We will have inconvenience for sure, and some of our oligarchs will lose some of their assets (boo hoo hoo) but we are not at risk of violence or invasion, so we need to keep perspective and remember what the Ukrainian people are risking.

If Putin falls out of favor, which he will if the Russian mob loses significant money, he could very well have a "mysterious" short fatal illness just like the ones he ordered for so many others. A good thing in the short term,though I don't have much faith in the next guy being much better.

Cha

(297,774 posts)
16. Putin begged for it.. Did he
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 02:53 AM
Feb 2022

think the world was going to stand by and do Nothing?!

MegaloMANIAC!

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