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Listening to Scholz right now (Germany) (Original Post) Old Crank Feb 2022 OP
Scholz is West German (Hamburg) DFW Feb 2022 #1
One of the reasons Old Crank Feb 2022 #3
Here is an English look at his talk. Old Crank Feb 2022 #2

DFW

(54,447 posts)
1. Scholz is West German (Hamburg)
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 08:02 AM
Feb 2022

Merkel was born in Hamburg, but grew up as an East German. She knew not to believe the word of any ex-KGB officer.

Germany is a dicey situation. No one here in Europe, especially the Germans, knew better the atrocities committed by the Germans on the people of Poland, Ukraine and Russia (as well as other places). For Germans to be involved in ANYTHING military in those areas requires a huge step across a line deeply drawn in history's sand.

Old Crank

(3,639 posts)
3. One of the reasons
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 08:42 AM
Feb 2022

That the German defense budget was so low. The US said it would help protect Germany, and the rest of Europe, by forming NATO and this would keep Germany under control. This has been ingrained since WWII until Trump decided to rip up the agreement.

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