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I understand that NATO air strikes on the convoy would be an act of war... (Original Post) Grasswire2 Mar 2022 OP
that is one 40 mile long straight visible line of sitting ducks, isn't it! NewHendoLib Mar 2022 #1
a couple of tons of rotten tomatoes dumped from drones...? Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #6
I think we'll find out the 40 miles is an error. Nevilledog Mar 2022 #8
The NYT is still saying a 40 mile long convoy. marybourg Mar 2022 #11
We'll see. It just wouldn't make sense. Nevilledog Mar 2022 #17
... Nevilledog Mar 2022 #28
Thanks for the clarification - 40 miles just sounded too immense to believe. nt crickets Mar 2022 #27
I heard vets from other countries were coming in to fight with Ukraine. LizBeth Mar 2022 #2
Former US Special Forces commanders, a couple of British officers, and others. The French Foreign okaawhatever Mar 2022 #10
Got any links ? left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #16
Here ruet Mar 2022 #20
Here you are. okaawhatever Mar 2022 #22
What's the point of stealth weapons if they can't, y'know, stealth C_U_L8R Mar 2022 #3
Putin put those big, fat convoys out there for a reason. SergeStorms Mar 2022 #4
yes, I suppose so. Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #5
It seems to call for something truly inventive. Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #12
how about a traveling circus happening to break down in the road ahead? Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #23
Ukraine has drones to guide missile strikes. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #13
Where are the drones they used before? Bev54 Mar 2022 #14
Ukraine Just Picked up 70 Fighter Jets OneBlueDotS-Carolina Mar 2022 #15
Where are the Secret Jewish Space Lasers when you need them!? n/t Silent3 Mar 2022 #19
if its a convoy inside ukraine and ukraine asks for help how is it an act of war? nt msongs Mar 2022 #21
I do not know the answer to that. Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #24
Very, very good question. ColinC Mar 2022 #26
It's about the laws of war. Renew Deal Mar 2022 #29
Honestly the whole NATO air strikes issue really does seem to be a gamble either way. ColinC Mar 2022 #25
Why not destroy the road at some point in front of the convoy? krawhitham Mar 2022 #30
I have read that there are not 70 planes being given. I wish I knew what was happening. 58Sunliner Mar 2022 #31

Nevilledog

(51,001 posts)
8. I think we'll find out the 40 miles is an error.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:30 AM
Mar 2022

Was reading on Twitter.

Some are saying it was a translation error.

Instead it's a 4 mile convoy, 40 miles from Kiev.

These were military guys who did the math and it would basically add up to more than 16 battalions if it was 40 miles. It would also be totally ridiculous to have that amount of equipment together where a disruption would stop the whole operation.

Just attack the very front and the very back and they're kettled. Plus, being stuck on that long of a line would take a shitload of resupplying.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
2. I heard vets from other countries were coming in to fight with Ukraine.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:24 AM
Mar 2022

I like that and hope that takes off. But I have not been following close enough for anything serious.

okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
10. Former US Special Forces commanders, a couple of British officers, and others. The French Foreign
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:32 AM
Mar 2022

Legion is granting leave to any members from Ukraine so they can go and fight.

That's what I've read from reliable sources so far.

C_U_L8R

(44,986 posts)
3. What's the point of stealth weapons if they can't, y'know, stealth
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:24 AM
Mar 2022

Not advocating WW3 though. I think we're all aching in our hearts for Ukraine and want to save those innocents any way possible.

SergeStorms

(19,182 posts)
4. Putin put those big, fat convoys out there for a reason.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:25 AM
Mar 2022

He's hoping someone does take the bait so he can escalate out of his ass.

We can't fall for it, as much as we'd like to.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
7. yes, I suppose so.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:28 AM
Mar 2022

But if it were Ukrainians, they would be within their right to defend themselves. Just make sure it's sabotage and not NATO.

Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
9. It seems to call for something truly inventive.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:31 AM
Mar 2022

Robots. Trained monkeys to deliver grenades. Something brilliant that will be legendary for decades.

Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #9)

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
18. how about a traveling circus happening to break down in the road ahead?
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:43 AM
Mar 2022

(Hollywood script writers, slackers..)

Clowns, painted ladies, boas, llamas, elephants, trick riders, sword dancers, one wagon full of large metal balls that pour out at just the right time...

And a band playing and giant bubble machines.

No, I have not been drinking. It could work, if there was an element of surprise and a lot of saboteurs hiding in the bushes.

Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #18)

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,376 posts)
15. Ukraine Just Picked up 70 Fighter Jets
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:38 AM
Mar 2022

MIG 29s are similar to F-15s, S-29s are similar to A-10 Warthogs. Arm them, the convoy would be a very juicy target.

Ukrainian pilots arrive in Poland to pick up donated fighter jets

The Ukrainian parliament on Monday tweeted that Europe was sending 70 fighter planes to Ukraine.


Poland and Slovakia still fly Russian-made planes similar to those used by the Ukrainian air force, meaning the pilots would not need much training if the planes were transferred.

In a move likely aimed at increasing pressure on Europe to act, the Ukrainian parliament on Monday tweeted that Europe was sending 70 fighter planes to Ukraine, including 28 MiG-29s from Poland, 12 from Slovakia and 16 from Bulgaria, along with 14 Su-25s from Bulgaria.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/28/ukrainian-pilots-arrive-in-poland-to-pick-up-donated-fighter-jets-00012560

ColinC

(8,278 posts)
25. Honestly the whole NATO air strikes issue really does seem to be a gamble either way.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:08 AM
Mar 2022

On one hand, if we don't do it, Russia -an irrational actor, could eventually come out on top in a way that puts him in an incredibly favorable position to attack NATO from resulting in an eventual and potentially more devestating nuclear war. On the other hand, the possibility of immediate nuclear war.

If there is the possibility that Russia is in any way still a rational actor, then minor involvement like a no fly zone, could end the conflict entirely. But again -huge gamble either way.

krawhitham

(4,638 posts)
30. Why not destroy the road at some point in front of the convoy?
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:31 AM
Mar 2022

Ukraine just picked up 70 jet planes, why not just bomb the road with a few

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