51% of Americans think US is in a recession or depression.

[uponit7771]

51% of Americans think US is in a recession or depression.

M$M Response: "... we don't know WHY they would think that ..."

EDIT: Remember, "the economy is bad" was pushed even when Obama was prez when there was no inflation and UE was 4.0% !!!

This is message zone flooding, just keep saying their message and that's what people remember.

Facts don't matter in message flooding, who gets there first does


This is working on human ANCHORING BIAS = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#Framing_effect

Dems need to get there FIRST and Ukraine message campaign is showing us how to do it !!!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/02/27/poor-economic-mood-u-s-means-ukraine-crucial-biden-democrats/6945848001/

According to the Suffolk/USA TODAY poll, more voters are pessimistic on the state of the U.S. economy today than they have been in the last 6 years. When voters were asked to describe the U.S. economy as either in “economic recovery”, “stagnation”, “recession”, or “depression”, a majority of respondents (51%) believe the United States is in a recession or depression.

Dem messaging mechanics need to improve and Ukraine is showing the way; Flood a message zone with simple precise message FIRST and don't stop until that message is saturate in peoples minds.

We have the harder job because MAGA Media sets the "ratings" agenda for what people see in the news; what rates in MAGA Media the rest of the M$M will repeat, they need the eyes.

Heat map what the M$M is saying about issues and attack the false parts en force. That'll help partly but its reactive but if we FLOOD a message zone FIRST and precise and don't stop on major policy issues it'll work better.

That includes ALL MESSAGE MEDIUMS (print, air and SM) especially social media but I don't see the FLOOD of memes in volume the GQP sends theirs if at all on a LOT of issues.

[democratsruletheday]

1. gimme a break....so sick of the narrative that

Dems can't "message" properly. Nothing but negativity and a circular firing squad and posts like this don't help. Just BS IMHO

[uponit7771]

5. We can't, dem leadership even recognizes this and people who walk around with their fingers

... in their ear aren't paying attention.

It's not like a group of Martians are telling Americans this bullshit, they're getting it from somewhere ... better attack the source or get to American ears first

[Eliot Rosewater]

21. And 51% of Americans dont know what the words recession and depression mean.

[uponit7771]

23. That's not true either, come on people we need to fix our message MECHANICS in a day and age

... were M$M isn't dominate info pusher.

Remember, "the economy is bad" was pushed even when Obama was prez when there was no inflation and UE was 4.0% !!!

GQP targets human anchor bias by flooding a message zone first

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=The%20anchoring%20bias%2C%20or%20focalism%2C%20is%20the%20tendency%20to%20rely%20too%20heavily%E2%80%94to%20%22anchor%22%E2%80%94on%20one%20trait%20or%20piece%20of%20information%20when%20making%20decisions%20(usually%20the%20first%20piece%20of%20information%20acquired%20on%20that%20subject).%5B11%5D%5B12%5D%20Anchoring%20bias%20includes%20or%20involves%20the%20following%3A

[Mr.Bill]

66. And another 30% think

depression means the dealership is out of pick-up trucks.

[Eliot Rosewater]

67. LOL ...good one.

[Mr.Bill]

68. Thanks.

I may not be as sharp as I was in my younger years, but I have my moments.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. Honestly, I'd be curious why people feel like we're in a recession.

[uponit7771]

6. Non stop MAGA Media flooding ALL message mediums with "money aint good" message zone,

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. I don't think that's all of it though. Too easy. I wonder how much of the general exhaustion most of

us are feeling as a result of the pandemic and social unrest is easier to identify as a "recession." If we feel like we're struggling socially or mentally or emotionally, do we try to explain it as an economic problem? I know this pandemic illustrated for a lot of people just how precarious their positions are in our forced-scarcity economic model. Do they describe that as "recession"? Maybe. Don't know, though.

[uponit7771]

31. No it's not all of it but first is the PLURALITY of it, GQP targets human anchor bias by ...

... getting there with their negative message first

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=The%20anchoring%20bias%2C%20or%20focalism%2C%20is%20the%20tendency%20to%20rely%20too%20heavily%E2%80%94to%20%22anchor%22%E2%80%94on%20one%20trait%20or%20piece%20of%20information%20when%20making%20decisions%20(usually%20the%20first%20piece%20of%20information%20acquired%20on%20that%20subject).%5B11%5D%5B12%5D%20Anchoring%20bias%20includes%20or%20involves%20the%20following%3A

[jimfields33]

3. Groceries are the reason people look negatively at economy.

It’s downright ugly going to a grocery store. If prices can go down, the entire country will immediately see it and suddenly the economy will be great.

[uponit7771]

7. It's literally a message zone flood by MAGA Media, they did it during Obama and they're doing it

... again when it comes to economic issues.

A large organization can heat map mediums with what MAGA Media message on the economy is sending out.

We have have to get to these message mediums and zones FIRST with our message vs counter punching which isn't as effective.

Yes, dem jobs are harder when it comes to messaging

[jimfields33]

9. Tonight is the night to let the message be heard that the economy is the

best in 50 years. I believe president Biden will say this. People need to feel it to.

[uponit7771]

15. True, tonight is a TINY start in a counter message but the flood has to be sent out for weeks ...

... and the mediums have to be hit hard with simple message of "turn around is coming" or something like that.

RayGuns "morning in America" for instance is a good example, flood the message mediums with that and that's what sticks in peoples heads but its NOT a one time speech action

[leftstreet]

8. +1

"It's downright ugly going to a grocery store"

You can say that again! It's THE topic of conversation everywhere right now.

[OhZone]

17. This exactly!

Groceries and gas.

I'm actually finding some great sales lately but it seems like a much bigger chore to keep the grocery bills down and we're raiding our canned goods stock and being tighter on not letting leftovers die. And ordering out less. I think it's the extra effort to shop when we have so much work to do is making things seem bad. I actually spent only 150$ the other day on groceries, which is really WAY low for us, but I had a limited, targeted list, you know, and I had to get brands I never tried, and while some items were up, some fav items I buy were on an amazingly low sale price - like my fav oatmeal was 1.99 and Bryers Ice cream was only 2.50! And there was plenty of cream cheese! ha

Julie and I actually make good money but we hate wasting it too.

[uponit7771]

27. No its not, MAGA Media works on human anchoring bias (link inside) we don't because we

... counter message too much

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=The%20anchoring%20bias%2C%20or%20focalism%2C%20is%20the%20tendency%20to%20rely%20too%20heavily%E2%80%94to%20%22anchor%22%E2%80%94on%20one%20trait%20or%20piece%20of%20information%20when%20making%20decisions%20(usually%20the%20first%20piece%20of%20information%20acquired%20on%20that%20subject).%5B11%5D%5B12%5D%20Anchoring%20bias%20includes%20or%20involves%20the%20following%3A

[OhZone]

65. You have a point but you have to admit prices have crept up - BUT -

I will say a lot of the chaos locally in my grocery stores is just the re-arranging of items.

I though they had removed ALL the chicken because of the bird flu scare, but, no, they moved it way way way down where it had never been before.

They also moved all the mac'n'cheese to a different aisle.

[Wingus Dingus]

4. Has anyone noticed that our collective intelligence as a country is decreasing almost exponentially

since Donnie Dump? Do people even know anymore what a recession is? Or a depression? Even though we just lived through it twelve or fourteen years ago...

[A HERETIC I AM]

11. Was 2007 through 2009 a recession or a depression?

I'm curious what you think it was, because of the way you worded this;

Do people even know anymore what a recession is? Or a depression? Even though we just lived through it twelve or fourteen years ago

"lived through it"

Through what?

[Wingus Dingus]

13. The Great Recession?

[A HERETIC I AM]

18. OK....yup

Because there are a lot of people on this board that were (and perhaps still are) calling it a depression.

They are two distinctly different economic phenomena.

I heard an excellent analogy back then;

"A recession is when an economy is brought to its knees.
A depression is when an economy is knocked flat on its back and can't get up"

[Wingus Dingus]

22. Yes, I agree with that analogy.

I have not lived through a depression, being only in my fifties.

[uponit7771]

12. It's not our intelligence its dem PR campaigns. Looks at the difference between UKR campaign and

... Russia's, Russia is getting CRUSHED by UKR with ever message medium flooded before they even got to the PR battlefield and it's hitting avg Russian citizen faster than economic sanctions.

UKR messaging success didn't depend on peoples intelligence it depended on a tactic of getting to message zone first and RELENTLESSLY flooding all mediums with Putler Bad and them good.

That was it, nothing to do with how smart the world was or wasn't

[Wingus Dingus]

20. Yes, I agree with you that Dem messaging is poor. However,

I haven't seen any economic authorities state that we are in a recession, so where are people drawing that conclusion from? Was it the wording of the poll that suggested it, I wonder? Do people think that inflation = recession? That's why I think it's less Repub messaging (although they screech about it constantly) and more confusion/ignorance.

[uponit7771]

24. Facts don't matter in message flooding, who gets there first does

[Wingus Dingus]

26. In that, you are correct. And not since President Obama

have we really had great messaging.

[uponit7771]

28. GQP targets human anchoring bias by flooding message zones first (link)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=The%20anchoring%20bias%2C%20or%20focalism%2C%20is%20the%20tendency%20to%20rely%20too%20heavily%E2%80%94to%20%22anchor%22%E2%80%94on%20one%20trait%20or%20piece%20of%20information%20when%20making%20decisions%20(usually%20the%20first%20piece%20of%20information%20acquired%20on%20that%20subject).%5B11%5D%5B12%5D%20Anchoring%20bias%20includes%20or%20involves%20the%20following%3A

[Johnny2X2X]

14. Dems fail at messaging

2021 was the best year for job growth in US history, best year for GDP growth in 40 years, and saw the highest wage growth in decades.

Inflation is an issue, but with wage growth being what it was it's not as big of an issue as people think. Dems never explain this, ever.

If Trump would have remained president, the GOP would literally be holding parades for him after a 2021 where jobs growth was the highest in history and GDP growth the highest since early Reagan. Dems barely even mention those big wins.

By some measures we just had the best economic year in our nation's history, and 51% think we're in a recession, my god have Dems failed at basic communication of the facts.

[uponit7771]

19. +1, UKR is showing dems IN REAL TIME how to dominate a message zone and mediums world wide

... we know we can do better than a country that's under attack right now.

If Trump would have remained president, the GOP would literally be holding parades for him after a 2021 where jobs growth was the highest in history and GDP growth the highest since early Reagan. Dems barely even mention those big wins.

RIGHT !!

The GQP is even great at negative messaging meaning people a message about something good in a negative way so everyone repeats the negative way but gets the picture of the good in their minds.

Its kinda like Barnum said; all press is good press

[Johnny2X2X]

32. When you deliver a message and...

When you deliver a message and 51% of the public doesn't get the message, the problem is not with the public, it's with the messenger.

I mean, my word, we're getting hammered on the economy after maybe the best economic year in our nation's history in terms of jobs, GDP, and wages. What's going to happen if there actually is a slowdown?

[uponit7771]

33. Yes !!! The MAGA media message when Obama was prez and UE was 4.0 and no inflation was

... "money aint good" and MAGA Media targeted human anchor biased

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=The%20anchoring%20bias%2C%20or%20focalism%2C%20is%20the%20tendency%20to%20rely%20too%20heavily%E2%80%94to%20%22anchor%22%E2%80%94on%20one%20trait%20or%20piece%20of%20information%20when%20making%20decisions%20(usually%20the%20first%20piece%20of%20information%20acquired%20on%20that%20subject).%5B11%5D%5B12%5D%20Anchoring%20bias%20includes%20or%20involves%20the%20following%3A

Then they target human cascade - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=Availability%20cascade%2C%20a%20self%2Dreinforcing%20process%20in%20which%20a%20collective%20belief%20gains%20more%20and%20more%20plausibility%20through%20its%20increasing%20repetition%20in%20public%20discourse%20(or%20%22repeat%20something%20long%20enough%20and%20it%20will%20become%20true%22).%5B123%5D%20See%20also%20availability%20heuristic.

[Wingus Dingus]

37. To be fair, assume that many of that 51% are GOPers and

will gladly say that not only are we in a recession AND a depression, we're also living under godless communist tyrants, all our rights have been trampled and we are about to collapse! But especially if the poll used the words "recession" or "depression", then people are suggestible and latched on to those to describe higher prices in grocery stores and gas pumps--because they're ignorant. That's what I think happened. That said, we definitely need to push a counter message, fast.

[uponit7771]

40. Yes, we need to push a counter message like "corps being greedy" because they are. They have

... 70 year record profits because they raised prices not MOSTLY due to inflation.

Then we target human cascade bias - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=Availability%20cascade%2C%20a%20self%2Dreinforcing%20process%20in%20which%20a%20collective%20belief%20gains%20more%20and%20more%20plausibility%20through%20its%20increasing%20repetition%20in%20public%20discourse%20(or%20%22repeat%20something%20long%20enough%20and%20it%20will%20become%20true%22).%5B123%5D%20See%20also%20availability%20heuristic.

[Wingus Dingus]

42. I remember prices going up during spring of 2020, when

you couldn't find toilet paper and Clorox wipes or pasta or chicken breasts--and my husband and I said, "Let's see if these prices ever come back down after the pandemic eases...YEAH RIGHT!" Everyone took advantage of the pandemic/staffing issues to raise prices, and that appears to be permanent. Assholes.

[uponit7771]

43. +1, and they're not going to stop. They will squeeze the public until someone calls them out on it

... using some of the same message techniques MAGA media does.

We have the "corps are greedy" message zone waiting to be hit hard

[MenloParque]

16. Where in the US are there even signs of a recession or a depression?? I don't venture much in other

States beyond CA, OR, NV, and Arizona and nowhere in these states are even the slightest signs of a recession. Far from it!

[uponit7771]

29. GQP works on human anchoring bias by flooding message zones first (link)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=The%20anchoring%20bias%2C%20or%20focalism%2C%20is%20the%20tendency%20to%20rely%20too%20heavily%E2%80%94to%20%22anchor%22%E2%80%94on%20one%20trait%20or%20piece%20of%20information%20when%20making%20decisions%20(usually%20the%20first%20piece%20of%20information%20acquired%20on%20that%20subject).%5B11%5D%5B12%5D%20Anchoring%20bias%20includes%20or%20involves%20the%20following%3A

[haele]

25. 51% of Americans are woefully uneducated.

Inflation is not the same as depression or recession.
Jobs and wages are up, productivity is up, businesses are making record profits, and employers are still fighting to hire people.
The inflation we're seeing is artificial.
Those businesses making record profits have jacked prices up so they can make even more profit and make democrats look bad. And they're using "supply chain" or "higher wages" as an excuse.
The mass media is letting them get away with it, too.

Haele

[uponit7771]

30. No we're not, GQP target human anchoring bias by getting there first (link)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=The%20anchoring%20bias%2C%20or%20focalism%2C%20is%20the%20tendency%20to%20rely%20too%20heavily%E2%80%94to%20%22anchor%22%E2%80%94on%20one%20trait%20or%20piece%20of%20information%20when%20making%20decisions%20(usually%20the%20first%20piece%20of%20information%20acquired%20on%20that%20subject).%5B11%5D%5B12%5D%20Anchoring%20bias%20includes%20or%20involves%20the%20following%3A

[leftstreet]

36. We're dumb to be angry $200 barely gets a couple bags of groceries?

No one cares how the problem is defined

[uponit7771]

38. +1, We're not dumb it just the FACTUAL counter message isn't being PR'd right. Corporations can't

... get 70yr net profit increases without greedily increasing prices which is what they did

We need to counter message using coming good PR techniques like Ukraine is doing with their attack by Russia.

The Ukrainian president is ALWAYS ON and doesn't stop day by day flooding every message medium with "Putler bad, come help us'

We need more than just one speech, it doesn't flood message mediums its just a start and we COULD flood those mediums with "corps being greedy"

Then we can work on targeting human cascade bias - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=Availability%20cascade%2C%20a%20self%2Dreinforcing%20process%20in%20which%20a%20collective%20belief%20gains%20more%20and%20more%20plausibility%20through%20its%20increasing%20repetition%20in%20public%20discourse%20(or%20%22repeat%20something%20long%20enough%20and%20it%20will%20become%20true%22).%5B123%5D%20See%20also%20availability%20heuristic.

[haele]

46. That's inflation, not a recession. Media is driving a false narrative.

And the inflation you are experiencing at the grocery stores is based primarily on corporate greed, not shortages.

Shortage/supply chain issues = less variety, slightly higher prices to compensate. Small, local businesses are unable to get parts or products for resale and face closure.

Greed = 15% to 20% higher prices while the corporations behind those products are making record profits over the past year, despite supply chain issues, higher labor costs, and worker shortages.

Not saying anyone is dumb, other than perhaps the Media in general is playing dumb just to rile the public up.

When working people - or even people on supplemental income support or retirement - are priced out of housing and survival basics, that's not a recession or depression, though it might feel like it to those people. That's a sign of straight out capitalist greed.

Haele

[uponit7771]

49. "based primarily on corporate greed, not shortages." RIGHT !! So dems need to counter message

... with "corp greed" and even do a Trump; go to the point of doing something almost bad to highlight what your opponent is doing that's horrible.


Putlers Whore was GREAT at this and MAGA Media was right behind him even though they would just make up the bad dems were doing.

We can do the same, this is human behavior science ... not just the art of what people are thinking

[Caliman73]

57. Here is another problem...

Those "greedy corporations" also donate to Democratic politicians. They are not likely to call out groups that make contributions to election campaigns. Those politicians to call out corporate greed, like Bernie Sanders and AOC are routinely criticized even here on DU.

[Sympthsical]

34. People look to their own pocketbook

And with food and energy price increases, that's what's on their minds.

You can lament it, lambast it, be mad about it. It doesn't matter. Getting angry with them is not going to work. "I know you're paying a lot more than you used to, but why aren't you happy, asshole!" I mean, that's a unique messaging campaign, I'll give it that. Is that the one Democrats should be doing?

You can point out all the economic indicators you want. You'll technically be right - the economy as a whole is doing a lot better.

But "as a whole" doesn't help when food items go up 25% or more, when filling the car makes you look askance at the final pump price.

All politics is local, and you can't get more local than someone's wallet.

[uponit7771]

35. True, MAGA Media is picking out a smaller negative leaving the larger picture on the table

... targeting human anchor bias-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=The%20anchoring%20bias%2C%20or%20focalism%2C%20is%20the%20tendency%20to%20rely%20too%20heavily%E2%80%94to%20%22anchor%22%E2%80%94on%20one%20trait%20or%20piece%20of%20information%20when%20making%20decisions%20(usually%20the%20first%20piece%20of%20information%20acquired%20on%20that%20subject).%5B11%5D%5B12%5D%20Anchoring%20bias%20includes%20or%20involves%20the%20following%3A

Then they target human cascade bias - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=Availability%20cascade%2C%20a%20self%2Dreinforcing%20process%20in%20which%20a%20collective%20belief%20gains%20more%20and%20more%20plausibility%20through%20its%20increasing%20repetition%20in%20public%20discourse%20(or%20%22repeat%20something%20long%20enough%20and%20it%20will%20become%20true%22).%5B123%5D%20See%20also%20availability%20heuristic.

When Obama was prez UE was 4% and no inflation and MAGA Media still flooding with "economy bad"

[Sympthsical]

50. I'm aware of what they are

(Just changed from a psych major), but at the end of the day, you can't tell people they don't feel or experience what they feel and experience.

Politics is about feeling much of the time. So when thinking of what kind of message to craft, it has to be about that. Of course, the MSM constantly bleating about how horrible things are has an effect. Look at crime (well, not recently at least). It was going down for decades, and people kept thinking it was increasing. Because when they turned on the tv, they saw every horrible thing that could be mustered.

I think if our party was smart, they would pivot this. Instead of pointing out economic indicators - which absolutely no one cares about - point it squarely at corporations. Most people are completely ready to hear that message. No one cares if the official UE is 4.0%. Absolutely no one. I have never had this conversation in my kitchen before. "Did you know unemployment is at historic lows? Man, our household is doing great!"

But I was absolutely fuming to my partner the other day that a can of coffee had increased $2.50. Oh! The petty bitching that ensued was epic and completely out of proportion. If you had told me in that moment, "You know, the CEO of Folgers just got a $3 million bonus," my ire would've been usefully directed (and away from politicians).

It's all very, "Read the room. Know your audience."

Throwing stats at people isn't accomplishing that.

[uponit7771]

51. True, we CAN scapegoat the SOURCE of that feeling. MAGA Media does it with great effect

[uponit7771]

52. "point it squarely at corporations." YES !! THIS !! Scapegoat the source of the aingst where it

... belongs.

I just reread your post

[onethatcares]

39. meanwhile,

try to get a seat at a half decent restaurant on a Friday night. Or count the number of new vehicles on the road.

What depression I feel is due to the fact that so many Americans are dumber than shit on a stick and vote against their own interests.

[uponit7771]

41. Americans can be dumb but its *MOSTLY* MAGA Media targeting human bias and doing a damn good job

... at it.

Remember they did the same thing during Obama admin when UE was 4% and there was no inflation

It's because MAGA Media targeted human anchor biased

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=The%20anchoring%20bias%2C%20or%20focalism%2C%20is%20the%20tendency%20to%20rely%20too%20heavily%E2%80%94to%20%22anchor%22%E2%80%94on%20one%20trait%20or%20piece%20of%20information%20when%20making%20decisions%20(usually%20the%20first%20piece%20of%20information%20acquired%20on%20that%20subject).%5B11%5D%5B12%5D%20Anchoring%20bias%20includes%20or%20involves%20the%20following%3A

Then they target human cascade - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=Availability%20cascade%2C%20a%20self%2Dreinforcing%20process%20in%20which%20a%20collective%20belief%20gains%20more%20and%20more%20plausibility%20through%20its%20increasing%20repetition%20in%20public%20discourse%20(or%20%22repeat%20something%20long%20enough%20and%20it%20will%20become%20true%22).%5B123%5D%20See%20also%20availability%20heuristic.

[inthewind21]

56. Yes

And people fell for it. And that's on them. So I agree that a LARGE part of the public is dumb as a box of rocks. And wikipedia is NOT going to convince me otherwise. Ironic you use wikipedia, it's the MOST vulnerable to manipulation "source" of information out there.

[uponit7771]

60. If it was JUST Americans stupid why is the stupid leaning towards MAGA messages vs our own?

Obama in 15 had 4% UE rate without inflation and the MAGA message was still economy bad.

No, we need to own up to message mechanics and get it right.

Also, the wiki page I posted is solid science and well sourced ... I'd rather believe the data

[inthewind21]

55. Amen

[andym]

44. Same thing happened in the late 70's due to high inflation.

Economic growth was actually high, but inflation caused people to sour on the economy. Carter's appointment of Volcker as Fed chairman ended it-- but at high cost as the Fed raised interest rates to unheard of levels-- the strong medicine took 3 years, so Reagan unfairly got the credit instead of Carter.

[uponit7771]

48. Yep, the Carter admin should've flooded with the UE rate but prices are going to go up ...

... but they had to counter message which bit them in the ass.

In this case Obama had 4% UE rate with no inflation and MAGA Media message was "economy bad"

.. "money aint good" and MAGA Media targeted human anchor biased

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=The%20anchoring%20bias%2C%20or%20focalism%2C%20is%20the%20tendency%20to%20rely%20too%20heavily%E2%80%94to%20%22anchor%22%E2%80%94on%20one%20trait%20or%20piece%20of%20information%20when%20making%20decisions%20(usually%20the%20first%20piece%20of%20information%20acquired%20on%20that%20subject).%5B11%5D%5B12%5D%20Anchoring%20bias%20includes%20or%20involves%20the%20following%3A

Then they target human cascade - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=Availability%20cascade%2C%20a%20self%2Dreinforcing%20process%20in%20which%20a%20collective%20belief%20gains%20more%20and%20more%20plausibility%20through%20its%20increasing%20repetition%20in%20public%20discourse%20(or%20%22repeat%20something%20long%20enough%20and%20it%20will%20become%20true%22).%5B123%5D%20See%20also%20availability%20heuristic.

We need to get there first, Ukraine PR against Russia is crushing Russians and they see that first even before the economic consequences

[albacore]

45. Blah Blah... "anchoring bias"... "messaging"....blah, blah...

How about applying Occam's razor to the behavior of a startling number of Murikans....They're just Stupid.
Messaging and framing can't overcome Stupid.

[uponit7771]

47. MAGA Media did the same with Obama 4% UE & no inflation, you don't see a pattern? tia

If it was JUST people being stupid why are they breaking stupid towards MAGA Media messages?

tia

[albacore]

62. Again..... George Carlin....

[fescuerescue]

53. Unfortunately, people are answering by how they feel, instead of researching

The GDP, unemployment data, inflation data and job start data.

[uponit7771]

61. True, humans will pick up on micro messaging before deep diving. We have to take advantage of

... those messaging techniques (KISS) and use it against the GQP.

[progree]

54. GDP growth 2020 (Trump): -3.4%. 2021 (Biden): +5.7% (with the last quarter +7.0% ann. rate)

https://www.bea.gov/news/2022/gross-domestic-product-fourth-quarter-and-year-2021-second-estimate

Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 7.0 percent in the fourth quarter of 2021 ...

Real GDP increased 5.7 percent, unchanged from the prior estimate, in 2021 (from the 2020 annual level to the 2021 annual level), in contrast to a decrease of 3.4 percent in 2020 (table 1)

"Real" means inflation-adjusted in Commerce Dept. parlance.

[iemanja]

58. They see prices rising

and don't realize that's a sign of a hot economy rather than a depression.

[uponit7771]

59. +1, someone upthread said we need to scapegoat Corp Greed and its mostly true. The message

... mechanics to do so is a tight window

[sinkingfeeling]

63. 51% of Americans don't know their right hand from their left.

[uponit7771]

64. We need to take advantage of that more than GQP, the messages fall to their favor too many times

... and we need to apply better message mechanics

[WarGamer]

69. I'd go out on a strong limb and say... 95% of the US public doesn't know what a recession IS.

One must understand... from a POLITICAL perspective...

The US public runs and votes on FEELINGS.

When gas is $5/gal and a Big Mac combo is $12 and you can't buy a damn Corolla without paying $2000 over MSRP...

They think that's a recession.

No money in the pocket, that's a depression.

This is why elections in troubled times can be dangerous for the ruling party.

[JCMach1]

70. The Federal Gov. needs to majorly do something about energy costs AND family housing as real estate

speculation.

Real estate for purchase AND rental right now is killing middle and working class wallets right now.

Something will have to give.