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RockCreek

(739 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:40 PM Mar 2022

Stunning Tweet from Zelensky's official account.

Last edited Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)


?t=QM2r5R4dfQlRtJ8igpE71g&s=19

Edited to embed original tweet (once wonderful DU members taught me how).


(My original post
From 11:32 AM today. I don't know how to do a twitter link. Pasting text and google translation.

"Навіщо 80 років повторювати «Ніколи знову», якщо, коли бомба падає на Бабин Яр, світ залишається мовчазним? Ще 5 життів втрачено. Історія повторюється...L"

Google translate-
"Why repeat "Never Again" for 80 years, if when the bomb falls on Babyn Yar, the world remains silent? 5 more lives were lost. History repeats itself ... " )
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Stunning Tweet from Zelensky's official account. (Original Post) RockCreek Mar 2022 OP
Click on the three dots in the upper right of tweet, then click on embed to get 'embed code' Donkees Mar 2022 #1
Thank you! N/T RockCreek Mar 2022 #2
that is technically not correct Celerity Mar 2022 #12
Thanks for clearing this up. ShazzieB Mar 2022 #44
Embed means to integrate external content into another website or page. You embed something when you Celerity Mar 2022 #45
Or just copypaste the link. (Copy only up to the first question mark.) Grokenstein Mar 2022 #3
Thanks! Bookmarking thread to always have these instructions RockCreek Mar 2022 #6
Tweets & video are easy, images not so much. Grokenstein Mar 2022 #11
I just click on a twitter photo to 'get image address' and then just paste it here. Donkees Mar 2022 #14
Thank you ! n/t RockCreek Mar 2022 #15
He's right. SusanaMontana41 Mar 2022 #52
I agree. History is watching. JasonMain Mar 2022 #4
Here is the picture. Marius25 Mar 2022 #5
Dear g-d. I didn't know the context when I posted the tweet. N/t. RockCreek Mar 2022 #7
Russian missile hits the Babyn Yar memorial park in Kyiv where thousands of Jews were murdered L. Coyote Mar 2022 #13
For reference: Babin Yar is where Nazis executed tens of thousands of Kyiv's Jews in 1941 Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #8
I visited this site in May 2019 Lucky Luciano Mar 2022 #9
Heartbreaking liberalla Mar 2022 #10
No low is too low from right, Russia, trump. LakeArenal Mar 2022 #16
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!" (Sir Walter Scott, 1808) Roc2020 Mar 2022 #17
Wow how does this man, under such unbelievable duress, continue to make these Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2022 #18
i asked that question in a thread yesterday. Never again my ass. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #19
Waiting for the Babyn Yar deniers to show up..... multigraincracker Mar 2022 #20
Here? At DU? Hekate Mar 2022 #50
Of coarse not. multigraincracker Mar 2022 #51
I had to look up Babyn Yar... despicable, beyond words! Wholeheartedly agree with the poster who Karadeniz Mar 2022 #21
Have there been any statements from Israel about what is going on in Ukraine? I haven't Samrob Mar 2022 #27
Nor have I and it's an abomination. When Zelensky said a bombed square and every square would Karadeniz Mar 2022 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Karadeniz Mar 2022 #33
I haven't seen any RockCreek Mar 2022 #35
Thank you for overcoming your revulsion so that soldierant Mar 2022 #46
Thank you for saying that RockCreek Mar 2022 #53
I had to look up Babyn Yar... despicable, beyond words! Wholeheartedly agree with the poster who Karadeniz Mar 2022 #22
So did I. ShazzieB Mar 2022 #48
Sometimes there are no words. Karadeniz Mar 2022 #49
I didn't have to Jilly_in_VA Mar 2022 #54
Biden held a call with President Zelenskyy today. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #23
Zelensky's Tweet about call RockCreek Mar 2022 #26
Babi Yar massacre IronLionZion Mar 2022 #24
I went to the USSR in 1976 when I was in college. catbyte Mar 2022 #25
He's right, you know NQAS Mar 2022 #28
Yup. There have been so many genocides since WWII. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #30
K&R Very informative thread! burrowowl Mar 2022 #29
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Mar 2022 #32
Babi Yar by dissident poet Yevgeni Yevtushenko Hekate Mar 2022 #34
Beautiful to hear, and transcription as well, thank you! Bongo Prophet Mar 2022 #36
Thank you for this, Bongo Prophet! Hekate Mar 2022 #38
Thank you for sharing this. n/t RockCreek Mar 2022 #39
Thank you, Bongo Prophet. ancianita Mar 2022 #43
Thank you. I had never heard of these. N/t RockCreek Mar 2022 #40
Thank you. soldierant Mar 2022 #47
Yesterday Col Alexander Vindman spoke about President Zelensky as "a lion of Europe"... Hekate Mar 2022 #37
Rt TY Cha Mar 2022 #41
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Mar 2022 #42
What does he want us do do? Polybius Mar 2022 #55

Celerity

(43,134 posts)
12. that is technically not correct
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:17 PM
Mar 2022


this yields:




the other way is to use the 'share' button



then select





this also yields


ShazzieB

(16,286 posts)
44. Thanks for clearing this up.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 10:36 PM
Mar 2022

I tried clicking on the 3 dots and "embed" wasn’t listed in the options provided.

Celerity

(43,134 posts)
45. Embed means to integrate external content into another website or page. You embed something when you
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 10:47 PM
Mar 2022

place a block of code — called an embed code — into the HTML editor of another website. When you hit 'Save' or 'Publish,' the media then renders on the published page.

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
3. Or just copypaste the link. (Copy only up to the first question mark.)
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:54 PM
Mar 2022

Like so (parts replaced with asterisks for illustrative purposes): h***s://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1498697538085568514

And voilà! The system takes care of the rest!


RockCreek

(739 posts)
6. Thanks! Bookmarking thread to always have these instructions
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:57 PM
Mar 2022

It sounds like posting a picture on Twitter and then embedding here could be the easiest way to post a picture. Is that true? I never post pictures on DU because the process seems so cumbersome.

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
11. Tweets & video are easy, images not so much.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:13 PM
Mar 2022

Images have to come from a host that allows hotlinking (I guess that's the right term?) and they're becoming rarer and rarer. You'd either have to post images to someplace like Imgur (and I'm not even sure about that) or use Twitter as you mentioned.

Donkees

(31,344 posts)
14. I just click on a twitter photo to 'get image address' and then just paste it here.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:26 PM
Mar 2022

Whatever I have shared with you I learned here on DU when Twitter sharing first began

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
5. Here is the picture.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:56 PM
Mar 2022

Next to that TV tower is the Babyn Yar Holocaust memorial which is where the smoke is coming from.


?s=20&t=CTHZBZ_6yUaCJWbynCwnrQ


Nothing says "DeNazifying" Ukraine like bombing the memorial where tens of thousands of Jews were murdered.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
13. Russian missile hits the Babyn Yar memorial park in Kyiv where thousands of Jews were murdered
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:24 PM
Mar 2022

The Babyn Yar Holocaust Memorial was established to memorialize the Nazi murder of about 100,000 people, including the entire Jewish population of #Kyiv.


Beastly Boy

(9,237 posts)
8. For reference: Babin Yar is where Nazis executed tens of thousands of Kyiv's Jews in 1941
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:00 PM
Mar 2022

It was a catalyst for the "never again" rallying cry.

Roc2020

(1,613 posts)
17. "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!" (Sir Walter Scott, 1808)
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:38 PM
Mar 2022

The fruits of Trump's Lies are what we are reaping right now in Ukraine. Putin even calls us The Empire of Lies. Consequences of Trump.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
18. Wow how does this man, under such unbelievable duress, continue to make these
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:42 PM
Mar 2022

brilliant points?. Ew if I was advising any other leader in the world, I'd tell them to lay low and let the master Z speak.

Karadeniz

(22,474 posts)
21. I had to look up Babyn Yar... despicable, beyond words! Wholeheartedly agree with the poster who
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:00 PM
Mar 2022

said that Russia's statement of denazification is unsupportable when they themselves behave like Nazis.

Karadeniz

(22,474 posts)
31. Nor have I and it's an abomination. When Zelensky said a bombed square and every square would
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:10 PM
Mar 2022

be renamed Freedom Square, I immediately pictured the Trump Square or whatever that NYahoo put up. Unbelievable that a Jewish nation would glorify a man who incited racism, even on campaign.

Response to Samrob (Reply #27)

RockCreek

(739 posts)
35. I haven't seen any
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:22 PM
Mar 2022

However, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency had a ridiculous "both-sides" article about Jewish Russian oligarchs. I am Jewish, and hate posting this. The article, however, infuriated me.

Russia’s Jewish oligarchs and their donations come under threat of Western sanctions amid Ukraine war
BY ASAF SHALEV
MARCH 1, 2022 1:21 PM

(JTA) – "Jewish communities in Ukraine received a $10 million gift from a perhaps unlikely source Monday: a charitable organization founded by three Russian Jewish oligarchs who are being accused of having supported the regime of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The donation is small for the three billionaires behind Genesis Philanthropy Group — Mikhail Fridman, Petr Aven and German Khan — who are together worth $21 billion. But it is significant in part because it signals daylight between them and Putin, who on Thursday invaded Ukraine and plunged the region into crisis.
....

Abramovich has long denied that he is an ally of Putin, and his representatives told The Guardian newspaper last week that “it would be ludicrous to suggest that our client has any responsibility or influence over the behavior of the Russian state.”

Current sanctions appear not to have deterred Putin as yet, making it likely that the West will seek to go further in pressuring the Russian president however it can. That leaves uncertainty for the recipients of the largesse of Russia’s Jewish billionaires."

Much longer article than these excerpts at link:
https://www.jta.org/2022/03/01/global/russias-jewish-oligarchs-and-their-donations-come-under-threat-of-western-sanctions-amid-ukraine-war

soldierant

(6,799 posts)
46. Thank you for overcoming your revulsion so that
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 11:17 PM
Mar 2022

we might be informed. I don't for a moment think that was easy.

RockCreek

(739 posts)
53. Thank you for saying that
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 10:15 AM
Mar 2022

It is thanks to the open and respectful atmosphere of DU that I felt OK posting it here. I did not believe it would lead to a string of nasty statements; this is very different from the reception it would receive on many other sites.

Karadeniz

(22,474 posts)
22. I had to look up Babyn Yar... despicable, beyond words! Wholeheartedly agree with the poster who
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:00 PM
Mar 2022

said that Russia's statement of denazification is unsupportable when they themselves behave like Nazis.

ShazzieB

(16,286 posts)
48. So did I.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 11:47 PM
Mar 2022

I am very familiar with the story of what happened there, but I knew it as Babi Yar, and I needed to confirm that Babyn Yar and Babi Yar are indeed the same place. What happened there was horrible, and it happened in lots of other places as well. As the German army invaded and occupied Soviet territory, they were followed by units known as the Einsatzgruppen (task forces, special action groups) that proceeded to carry out one mass murder after another. If you have the stomach for it, you can read more about this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen

That Putin decided to bomb the Babyn Yar Memorial should fill all thinking people with utter revulsion. I can't think of any words that are even close to being adequate to describe just how despicable this is.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,945 posts)
54. I didn't have to
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 12:50 PM
Mar 2022

Maybe because my major was initially linguistics and my mind goes fairly rapidly between one similar language and another, even if I don't know either one, I got it right away. Or maybe because I knew, from my Russian History course, that Babi Yar/Babyn Yar was in Ukraine (when I took the class it was still the USSR, yikes).

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
24. Babi Yar massacre
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:04 PM
Mar 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

And Odessa massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_Odessa_massacre

All this is why it's extra Orwellian for Putin to claim he's "denazifying" Ukraine. Zelensky is Jewish and his ancestors perished in the holocaust. Putin is using blitzkrieg and siege tactics to starve out Ukrainian cities.

catbyte

(34,341 posts)
25. I went to the USSR in 1976 when I was in college.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:10 PM
Mar 2022

We went to Moscow, Kiev (Kyiv) and Leningrad (St. Petersburg), When we went to Kyiv, we took a side trip to Babi Yar, and it was one of the most profoundly moving experiences of m life. I'm utterly horrified that this is happening all over again.

Shame on Russia. More than shame on Putin. He really, really, really wants to be Stalin (or Hitler) 2.0, doesn't he?

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
28. He's right, you know
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:47 PM
Mar 2022

After WWII, the world proclaimed, "Never Again."

Although Never Again largely refers to the Holocaust, Zelenskyy is right. The Russians are bombing Babyn Yar, the site of the murders of more than 100,000 innocents, including Jews, Ukrainians, Russians, Gypsies, and so many more. Putin is desecrating a spot where his fellow Russians were murdered by soldiers of the Third Reich.

We are relieved to see European countries providing weapons and aircraft. Unfortunately, we all realize the implications if the US and other nations decide to expand their support/involvement. Ukraine is not a NATO country, Russia has put its nuclear forces on alert, etc. Notwithstanding widespread moral and financial support in the US for Ukraine, I don't think the US has the stomach for another US military entanglement, however noble. (And then are the political implications.) But if all we do is stand by to await the outcome, then we have to admit that Never Again was only a slogan. When Never Again should have been a century-long rallying cry, it may turn out to have been a meaningless feel-good trope.




Hekate

(90,564 posts)
34. Babi Yar by dissident poet Yevgeni Yevtushenko
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:19 PM
Mar 2022

Written 1961 to protest the USSR’s refusal to build a monument at Babi Yar, where 33,000 were murdered and dumped in the ravine in September 1941. The dissident poet reflects on that number, as he has just become 33 years old.

Dmitri Shostakovich’s 13th Symphony is based in part on this poem.

(I am still trying to find an English translation that I can copy here. For something I remember so well, it is turning out to be difficult to find when I want to.)

Meanwhile I leave you with this.













Bongo Prophet

(2,642 posts)
36. Beautiful to hear, and transcription as well, thank you!
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:30 PM
Mar 2022

Poetry should be heard, as well as read. Each provides different aspects of the richness of words.
I have this in my copy buffer for those who can't play the video for any reason.



Babi Yar
By Yevgeni Yevtushenko
Translated by A.Z. Foreman
Requested by Ruth Blumenthal

No monuments stand over Babi Yar, 
A sudden drop sheer as a gross graveslab.  
I am here terrified.  
         Today I am
As old as all the Jewish people are. 

Now it seems that I am
          an Israelite.
There I am wandering Ancient Egypt's lands,  
And there I perish, pierced and crucified, 
And to this day bear nail-scars on my hands.  
And Dreyfus too is 
        me,
          there I have been
Sentenced, sold out  
         by petty philistines. 
I am behind bars,  
        rounded up and battered,
I have been
     hounded, hunted,
           slandered, spat on,
And demoiselles dolled up in Brussels lace 
Shrieked as they poked their parasols in my face.  
And now I am  
      a boy in Białystok.
Blood runs across the floor. Blood on the wall.  
The bar-room rabble-rousers run amok  
Reeking of onion and hard alcohol. 
Boots kick my body aside, helpless. Head gushing, 
I plead in vain with thugs of the pogrom 
To hoots of  
      "Smash the fucking kikes! Save Russia!"
And some grain-seller beats and rapes my mom.   
My People! Russian nation!  
           I know,
              you
Are internationalist at the core,  
But men with filthy hands too often boomed 
Your clean sweet name into a jingo roar.   
I know the good, the kindness of your land.  
How vile it is  
     that, with no pinch of scruple,
those pompous antisemites tried to brand  
themselves a "Union of the Russian People."  
It seems that what I am is  
           Anne Frank
Transparent  
      as a fragile April branch.
And I love.
     And I need no puffy phrase.
I need for us 
     to meet each other's gaze.
So little we can see or smell,  
              we who
Have been denied the sky,  
           denied the leaves.
But we can do so much:
          to tenderly
Embrace each other in a darkened room.  
"They're coming!"  
      "Don't be scared.  
             That's just the clamor
of early spring.
         It is spring coming here!  
Come here.  
     Give me a kiss, quick."
              "Are they ramming
The door?"  
     "Shhhh...no, that's cracking ice you hear."

The wildgrass rustles over Babi Yar. 
Trees stare down stern,   
         judicial,
            cold as day.
All things scream silent here.  
            Hat in my arm,
I feel myself now  
       slowly growing grey.
And I myself  
      am one all-out soundless scream
For the thousand buried thousands in this char. 
I'm every old man 
           shot in this ravine,
I'm every baby  
      burned in Babi Yar.

No fiber in me  
      will forget this ever.
Let the Internationale  
         thunder forth
When we have buried, finally and forever, 
The final antisemite on this earth. 

There is no Jewish blood in me, it's true.  
But with their callous ossified revulsion 
Antisemites must hate me like  
           a Jew
And that is what makes me   
         a real Russian.

Hekate

(90,564 posts)
37. Yesterday Col Alexander Vindman spoke about President Zelensky as "a lion of Europe"...
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:31 PM
Mar 2022

Vindman is always so stoic, but he referenced their common Jewish and Ukrainian ancestry in a very moving way.

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