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Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:55 PM Mar 2022

Can Trump survive without $ from Russian oligarchs?

These super wealthy pricks have been buying real estate from (and overpaying) Trump for years. They've paid extraordinary prices for condos, mostly in FL and NY. The stupid orange shit thinks he's screwing them. He's too dense to understand that they've been buying him.

Now, when Trump needs their money the most to pay for his lawyers, their assets have been frozen. And this gives Donald a huge sad.

Then again, there are the Saudis. They too are huge Trump customers/owners. And they will keep the orange prick afloat because they don't care anymore about Ukraine than does the Mar-a-Lago recipient of their billions.

This planet is a really fucked up place that is run by a wealthy, powerful few. Somehow, someway, people of conscience, who can visualize a better order of things, must bring about the changes needed to save both humanity and the environment that sustains us all.

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Can Trump survive without $ from Russian oligarchs? (Original Post) Cyrano Mar 2022 OP
It's gonna close the walls in a little tighter. Mar A Guano will need a bigger toilet. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #1
Mar a Guano underpants Mar 2022 #7
Mar A Guano Celerity Mar 2022 #17
Mar-a-Guano !!!! calimary Mar 2022 #29
We're about to find out and the bloated tic isn't the only one. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #2
With any luck the whole T family will take off pwb Mar 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2022 #4
true ownership of LLC's need to be disclosed dixiegrrrrl Mar 2022 #24
No. H2O Man Mar 2022 #5
I think Russian money got him into office... NCDem47 Mar 2022 #6
Russian money got a lot of republicans into office. n/t Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #11
Recall how Russian money was cycled through the NRA? PufPuf23 Mar 2022 #27
Wouldn't surprise me. Russians have probably infiltrated MANY targets here. calimary Mar 2022 #31
Too Easy, Hell No! Emile Mar 2022 #8
He's not screwing them. He's cleaning their money. underpants Mar 2022 #9
It will be interesting to watch what happens when Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #10
I've seen mention of a few condos and other pcs of real estate owned by oligarchs... AntiFascist Mar 2022 #12
and that is why NJCher Mar 2022 #30
And one the first foreign policy changes Trump did in 2015 was applegrove Mar 2022 #13
If he still has that much real estate holdings fescuerescue Mar 2022 #14
Most of the wealthy steer clear of the rabid. Cyrano Mar 2022 #15
They do. But they don't walk away from making money either fescuerescue Mar 2022 #16
He will be extracting money from the Saudis Tadpole Raisin Mar 2022 #18
Another reason he keeps open the option to run for president again. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #19
Not just trump. The same goes for un-American republican Govs, Congressmen and Senators. rockfordfile Mar 2022 #20
As Eric the tooth said, they get most of their funding from Russia world wide wally Mar 2022 #21
I bet not even TDFG himself has an actual balance sheet of debts and liabilities bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #22
How much of what #FailedCoupGuy was paid was hidden in Russia to evade US taxes? L. Coyote Mar 2022 #23
Survive? Yes. Prosper? well...... getagrip_already Mar 2022 #25
Plus leftieNanner Mar 2022 #28
Kick MatthewHatesTrump2 Mar 2022 #26

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. It's gonna close the walls in a little tighter. Mar A Guano will need a bigger toilet.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:59 PM
Mar 2022

It's going to see even more stress diarrhea and top secret documents.

calimary

(81,125 posts)
29. Mar-a-Guano !!!!
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 07:52 PM
Mar 2022

I'm adding that to the collection I've just started.

Another one is "nitwittery" by DUer gratuitous.

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
24. true ownership of LLC's need to be disclosed
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 07:37 PM
Mar 2022


I missed that! Could not be happier at the idea, been saying that forever.

Under the many issues around sanctions, sounds as if he has a longer and badly needed list of corrections to make.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
6. I think Russian money got him into office...
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:02 PM
Mar 2022

...and then AMERICAN oligarchs and companies started kicking in.

PufPuf23

(8,755 posts)
27. Recall how Russian money was cycled through the NRA?
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 07:44 PM
Mar 2022

Bet the NRA was not a unique situation.

I wonder about the funding of some churches and mega evangelists.

underpants

(182,626 posts)
9. He's not screwing them. He's cleaning their money.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:06 PM
Mar 2022

Or at least getting it sanctioned oligarchs name off the money.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
10. It will be interesting to watch what happens when
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:08 PM
Mar 2022

the spigot is shut off for ALL Republicans, both in money and disinformation/trollery.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
12. I've seen mention of a few condos and other pcs of real estate owned by oligarchs...
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:11 PM
Mar 2022

but the reality is that much of the real estate in certain markets is probably being propped up by laundered, kleptocratic funds. Many of these condos sit empty.

NJCher

(35,620 posts)
30. and that is why
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 08:14 PM
Mar 2022

this morning a radio show on our local public radio, WNYC, featured Borough President Mark Levine who says they are working to sanction oligarch properties in NY.

https://www.worldnewsday.com/2022/03/01/calls-for-wider-sanctions-seizure-of-russian-oligarchs-nyc-luxury-real-estate/

The problem is our own Treasury Department has not responded to NYC's inquiries:

But so far, the U.S. Treasury Department, which implements the sanctions, has not taken any formal steps against oligarch-owned real estate. The agency did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

I liked this, the last paragraph, of the story:

American officials have warned that they plan to go further to target wealthy oligarchs “to take their yachts, their luxury apartments, their money, their ability to send their kids to college abroad.”

applegrove

(118,497 posts)
13. And one the first foreign policy changes Trump did in 2015 was
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 06:09 PM
Mar 2022

to not impose US anti-corruption norms on foreign nations. I wonder why?

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
14. If he still has that much real estate holdings
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 06:19 PM
Mar 2022

I don't see why not.

He can just sell it to non Russian oligarchs.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
16. They do. But they don't walk away from making money either
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 07:08 PM
Mar 2022

If they can buy his property under market, there is will no shortage of buyers.

They also have marketing people who will put a good spin on it.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
18. He will be extracting money from the Saudis
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 07:25 PM
Mar 2022

So unless they make a determination that TFG is no longer a useful idiot, he will find a way to to get the money he needs.

Just another reason to go through with investigation and prosecution of TFG.

I just hope they are AND getting approved for wire taps of his and his closest associates phones. A person who is a national security risk demands it!

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
19. Another reason he keeps open the option to run for president again.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 07:29 PM
Mar 2022

He wants to keep the suck ups on his hook with the idea that he could be president again and ready to do big favors for them—in return for money in his pocket of course.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
23. How much of what #FailedCoupGuy was paid was hidden in Russia to evade US taxes?
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 07:36 PM
Mar 2022

And is that money now out of reach?

Or did he launder it via the NRA to his campaign?

getagrip_already

(14,637 posts)
25. Survive? Yes. Prosper? well......
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 07:39 PM
Mar 2022

He is not in any danger of moving into a cardbord box. Even if he starts to default on some payments, he can stall foreclosure and asset seizure for years. Every asset is in a different pocket. Creditors can only go after what was posted as collateral. Chances are, loans point to each others assets as collateral. Good luck getting to his nest eggs.

But he has other streams of cash. The magat's don't seem to be tapped out yet. He is getting hundreds of millions off those rubes, as well as sucking it out of gop coffers. Then, he has the income from his spac sale. Then, he has the saudi's and other very rich patrons ready to buy out choice properties..

He isn't shaking in his boots financially. Even as broke and cash strapped as he appears, he still has air to breathe.

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