As the Russian Army's morale plummets..

[Imallin4Joe]

The US and our allies should find a way to reach out to the Russian Army and convince them to lay down their arms, detonate their own weapons to destroy them, and offer them a safe surrender.

True, they'd never be able to return to Russia as long as Vlad the Terrible stays in power but they can be offered safe refuge in other allied countries, including the US.

This tactic has been used in many previous wars and conflicts.

It could sow the seeds that crush morale among remaining Russian troops that haven't yet surrendered.

[lagomorph777]

1. Don't destroy the weapons.

The Ukraine military use many of the same Soviet-era weapons and could probably pick them right up and go.

[Irish_Dem]

2. Right the weapons need to be turned over to Zelensky.

[List left]

3. THIS! nt

[patphil]

4. I was thinking the same thing.

Why destroy them when the Ukrainian army can give them back to Russia...one shot at a time?

[Imallin4Joe]

5. I'm 100% for that too..

I just don't want the weapons to somehow get back in Vlad's hands..

If weapons can be given to Ukraine, let it happen!!

[lagomorph777]

6. When you grab the personnel, you grab the materiel.

Pretty straightforward operation.

Then return the materiel. Out the muzzle.

[Imallin4Joe]

15. Right on.

If Ukraine can capture the weapons after surrender, I'm all for it.

I love your comment of returning said weapons out the end of a muzzle! 100% agree!

[Kaleva]

7. It'd be ironic that Putin's forces arm the Ukrainians

[onetexan]

23. Touche'!!

[Imallin4Joe]

35. It'd be perfect in this shitty situation, no doubt.

[CanonRay]

8. The EU is considering asylum

[Imallin4Joe]

16. That's great!

It can be a very effective diplomatic strategy!

[hippywife]

9. Ukraine has already been making offers of

amnesty and more than $40K to each Russian soldier who surrenders.

[Imallin4Joe]

12. I'd love to see the US and Allies back this with more cash.

[hippywife]

14. It's being financed by the

international IT community at the moment. I don't know the ins and outs, if there are any restrictions, of individual national governments making such offerings. Otherwise, you'd think you'd seen such a thing before now, even before this current conflict. I dunno.

[Wicked Blue]

10. Ukraine is offering asylum

to Russian soldiers that give themselves up. As long as they haven't committed war crimes.

Link to tweet

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[WheelWalker]

11. Money talks.

[Imallin4Joe]

13. That is so great to read!

Thanks for posting!!

[c-rational]

17. +1

[reACTIONary]

22. I think they are getting the rubbles at a discount 😉

[yaesu]

18. Would flying over russian troops & dropping leaflets offering $10,000 to any soldier who

surrenders with their firearms, vehicles be considered an act of war? it may be quite cost effective in the long run.

[Imallin4Joe]

30. It's an act of peace...

and a damn fine idea!!

[yaesu]

31. 😊

[Mr.Bill]

19. I'm all for this,

but it would be a difficult decision for someone with a family back home in Russia.

[DENVERPOPS]

20. EXACTLY

his or her family would all be arrested and face extreme cruelty for his or her actions.

That is how dictators do it............

[Mr.Bill]

21. In the late 70s there were two Russian scientists living

in the apartment building my parents were managing in Palo Alto. They were professors on a teaching exchange program for two years at Stanford. I got to know them pretty well and they were nice guys. The thing is they would not let their wives come to visit them. They were basically holding them hostage to guarantee the scientist's return.

At the end of the two years, one of them disappeared and didn't go back. I don't know whatever happened to him, perhaps he was granted asylum here.

[DENVERPOPS]

28. I had a friend who's family had escaped Russia during the

1917 Russian Revolution. Her family came to Colorado to become citizens and live here. She was a famous Professor when she grew up.
She lectured all over the world, but our State Department would not let her travel to the USSR or any of it's satellite nations to give lectures. They were certain the Russian Gov't. would grab her and keep her.
Later, after the cold war broke Russia, THEN the Russian Gov't made it safe for her, and allowed her to come over and lecture in their country. In fact, they gave her the Red Carpet treatment, because, after all, she was born in Russia.......

[Imallin4Joe]

32. My theory..

I don't want to make light of what you're saying. It's a very possible scenario with that psycho dictator.

But it appears that Russian Army units are already surrendering.

Think of it like this, if there are mass unit surrenderings, we're talking tens of thousands of troops...

I doubt even Vlad, as disgusting and vile as he is, would go after families because there would be so many.

Trust me, getting the Russian Army to surrender would forever seal Vlad the Terrible as the biggest embarrassment in human political history. One of the most epic political blunders ever.

Mass surrender will hamstring Vlad in so many ways.

It just might get the murderer to pull back, perhaps even abandon his lunatic spree.

[Mr.Bill]

33. Of course, I hope you are right.

I wasn't talking so much about their families being harmed, rather they may never see their families again. Still a tough decision.

[Imallin4Joe]

34. Oh yeah, that's a great point!!

I totally get you now. That is a super valid point. That almost brought me to tears thinking of families being separated, possibly forever.

Thanks for making a very valid point. Puts a bunch of perspective on it.

[Mr. Evil]

24. The messaging must include

that they will be ordered to fire indiscriminately upon unarmed and innocent women and children in civilian living areas. That might resonate with some of them since a large percentage of them don't know what their mission is or where they even are.

[getagrip_already]

25. pshyops 101...

C'mon. I have to believe the us alone has thousands of people focused on how to demoralize enemy troops and get them to surrender.

It's an art and a science. And we have had a lot of practice. Every NATO country is likely staffed. And have since WWI. Vietnam was a text book example on all sides.

I have to believe that some of the surrenders and loses are the result of these very tactics.

But, I'm not military, or cia, or a member of any org that uses those tactics. I just believe they are in use.

ymmv. imho of course.

[MustBeTheBooz]

26. "Vlad the Terrible"

I think I love that!

[Puppyjive]

27. Flyers need to be used

They need flyers to spread everywhere with this message!

[Imallin4Joe]

29. That's also an effective strategy..

that's been used many times in past wars and conflicts!

[Strelnikov_]

36. Agree. We need to get this turned off ASAP n/t

[Strelnikov_]

37. Let's offer them, say, $10k each. As Crapgame said, "Maybe they're Republicans" n/t