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Intelligence acquired since the beginning of the Russian military operation over Ukraine has shown an immense lack of logistic support, making this war one of the most unique in 2022 when it comes to surveillance.
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For the 1st time in a modern conflict, the regular forces of Russia are communicating without digital mode, making them fully audible by everyone.
A story documented by Nicholas Laidlaw (instagram.com/nicklaidthelaw/) might explain that the cause would be bad logisitic preparation.
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A story being confirmed not only by PoW testimony but also by material captured by the Ukrainian army after clashes with the Russian army, such as in this tweet, showing a civilian Baofeng which was used by the Russian infantry.
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Following the lack of security on their communications, we have been closely cooperating with radio amateurs & translators, across the globe, to document and gather intelligence.
Russian units on ground were then tracked, such as Buran-30, which we can hear planning an artillery attack on a civilian location.
We can also hear jammers trying to interrupt Russian communications and disrupt their coordination capabilities.
ipfs.io/ipfs/QmUMPt9mB
Using publicly available web radio receiveir (webSDR), callsigns of Russian military units and roles were discovered. Reports of losses, injuries, ... everything can be heard. Even them swearing at their own crew, such as in this recording.
ipfs.io/ipfs/QmT93mdDc
During a fight West of Kiev, we learned that there was an FOB in Nalivaykovka - to which Yug95 was sent to bring the 200 (KIA) and 300 (Injured).
ipfs.io/ipfs/QmZovWWQ6
We also heard them cry during a fight near Kharkhiv, as heard in this recording. But also had fuel issues, trouble coordinating because lack of maps, ... While also requesting air support or talking about Iskander strikes.
ipfs.io/ipfs/QmZY41aKt
Every conversations have displayed a disturbing lack of coordination between units, sometimes even firing at each other. But also, in addition to the simple fact that they are equipped with analogic radios, a lack of logisitical support.
Because unsecured communications, the frequencies have been constantly jammed by civilians, sometimes in the middle of fights, making the ground infantry unable to operate properly and having to withdraw.
An entire community created itself around those communications, currently scanning and recording anything of interest, including ShadowBreak. Creating hours of intense Russian army chatter recordings, each demonstrating an army unprepared for such situation.
We will soon make as much raw recordings as possible freely available for journalists and translators, with the hope of shining lights on a historical situation where a regular army is being tracked by thousand of individuals.
Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)I continue to be dumbfounded by what I am reading.
It is unbelievable.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)Not reveal positions, logistics, tactical information.
"Loose lips sink ships" kind of thing.
The Russian soldiers are the most poorly trained soldiers from a supposed world class military I have ever seen.
My jaw keeps dropping on the ground.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Very poorly trained & no coordination it seems.
Training costs $. $ spent training troops is less for poot. More evidence his contentions are bs, else he would have spent the $$$$ on forces.
Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)And there was no money for military training it looks like.
And no coordination or planning.
But they do have the raw numbers and combat power to invade.
But the troops are poorly trained and supply chain is a problem.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Yes, he raped that country.
#s they have, but not much else.
Ukraine is offering the equivalent of $47k for surrenders. Funded by intl tech community. Guessing they do not want poot to get his hands on the world's sole supply of neon!
Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)They can then threaten and use that to hurt other countries.
Good for International Tech. They are being smart.
Yes buy off the Russian soldiers.
Their paychecks are now worthless.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I wonder if they know?
Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)And there has been a run on the banks.
They seem to have cell phones so I assume their wives and mothers have called to tell them?
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)When the wives can't cash the military paychecks and cannot buy groceries for the kids. Husband will hear about it.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Hadn't thought about their cells. Weird concept in war far as I know.
Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)A big security risk.
Leaking positions, and all kinds of information you don't want an enemy to know.
All very sloppy.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)But I'm no expert on war.
Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Dont ask how I know this, but the Russians have a lot of communication security equipment
like, enough to issue two or three scramblers all running different security protocols to every radio operator. And a lot of it is excellent - better than the gear we have. Our equipment is no joke, so for theirs to be better is high praise indeed.
That they left the motor pool with their comms in the red is one of the worst fuckups imaginable. That they crossed the line of departure in the red should result in firing squads for all concerned.
Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)They have the technology for secure comms and the training.
What accounts for this problem?
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)...none of whom were in the Ministry of Defence. He told those guys it was just a training exercise. The ONLY thing I can think of is they don't use their COMSEC gear during exercises anymore, so being ordered to pack keying material would tip them off that this was no FTX they were about to participate in.
Irish_Dem
(47,056 posts)But for God's sake.
Sending troops into battle with half assed gear and supplies.
Dangerous and irresponsible.
crickets
(25,979 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)I'm making a list here. They don't seem to have brought enough...
food
water
fuel
ammunition
road maps
repair parts
vodka
support from the people they're trying to save
soldiers who give a fuck about anything
...so, why would they have brought any keying material? They probably didn't bring the equipment to use it either.
Right now they're roughly Number 6 on the list of the worst cluster fucks of all time, behind Napoleon's invasion of Russia (5), the Charge of the Light Brigade (4), Custer's Last Stand (3), Pickett's Charge (2) and The Trump Administration (1). If they keep this up for another month they MIGHT make it all the way to number 2.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)Jerry2144
(2,101 posts)If the Canadians who helped out with the truck convoy Ottawa played the same help there. It needs translation though
Nevilledog
(51,104 posts)Jerry2144
(2,101 posts)Imagine how a timely interjection of a phrase from that song into their orders would work.
Ivan I need you to
Igor, wheres my
localroger
(3,626 posts)NickB79
(19,236 posts)Jesus H. Christ
On second thought, scratch that. They're so under-equipped, the troops would just end up cooking them on a tank engine for dinner
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Theyre at the point they cant even lay wire because the Ukrainians would have it tapped before the phones were hooked to it.
gay texan
(2,443 posts)I'll try to see if I can post some recordings
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I read another article earlier that was speculating that the reason Ukrainians still have internet and cellphone service is some/much of the area under conflict is because they think the Russian military is relying on these.
The ineptitude of these guys astounds me. And to think that the Russians thought they had a military that could stand against a modern NATO member?
PortTack
(32,767 posts)moondust
(19,981 posts)hunter
(38,311 posts)... selecting by lowest price.
Even the Baofengs are counterfeit.
k0rs
(72 posts)..to be a radio amateur. People ask me is amateur radio still relevant? Here's your answer. I can attest to the fact that Eastern European ham operators are some of the most skilled in the world. We've been warned about communicating with Ukrainian stations already.
The Germans made the same mistake during WW2. Rommel's tankers in North Africa used amateur frequencies to communicate and were easily copied on the US East Coast. Oops.