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CaptainTruth

(6,576 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 11:45 AM Mar 2022

'Tanks and mud are not friends' -- Ukraine's terrain is proving to be a problem for Russian armor

From Task & Purpose ( "Task & Purpose provides military news, culture, and analysis by and for the military and veterans community." )

‘Tanks and mud are not friends’ — Ukraine’s terrain is proving to be a problem for Russian armor

“Eastern Europe is either frozen or it’s fucking muddy, that’s just how it is.”

The Russian army is finding out the hard way that, besides anti-tank missiles, land mines, and Molotov cocktails, one of the greatest threats to tanks is the earth itself, at least when it’s mixed with a little too much water. Even before Russia invaded Ukraine last week, the internet was filled with images of fearsome Russian armor and other vehicles stuck in the mud. As one Marine explained, getting stuck in the mud is not a question of if, but when.

[link:https://taskandpurpose.com/news/russian-tanks-stuck-mud-ukraine/|]

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'Tanks and mud are not friends' -- Ukraine's terrain is proving to be a problem for Russian armor (Original Post) CaptainTruth Mar 2022 OP
Pray for rain? Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #1
Ukraine in the spring will be one gigantic glue trap. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #2
The bog down might be China's fault Pantagruel Mar 2022 #3
an early thaw lapfog_1 Mar 2022 #4
A lot of that convoy still seems to be in Russia Deminpenn Mar 2022 #7
Rasputitsa Javaman Mar 2022 #5
Raputitsa, even basic gamers knows what this is. BlueWavePsych Mar 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueWavePsych Mar 2022 #6
Napoleon and Hitler both found problems with weather in that part of Europe. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #9
 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
3. The bog down might be China's fault
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 11:49 AM
Mar 2022

if , as rumored , Xi got Putin to delay the invasion until after the Olympics.

lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
4. an early thaw
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 11:55 AM
Mar 2022

I've been saying for weeks (to my friends in Romania) that Putin needed to move in late January or early Feb. Global Warming has decreased winter months by some 2 to 3 weeks. Tanks (as the Germans in WWII found out) do not like dealing in mud... and they abhor being stuck on paved roads (convoys are sitting ducks).

Putin waited 2 weeks too long to start this invasion... and the Ukrainians have (to date) put up much more resistance (but I fear they are out of anti-tank missiles... otherwise that 40 mile convoy should be wiped out) than expected.

The tanks can no longer move across open fields and advance quickly.

We need to get the resistance 1000s of javelins and other anti tank/armor weapons quickly.

Apparently their Turkish made drones are doing an excellent job too, I hope we can get them many more of these/

Deminpenn

(15,265 posts)
7. A lot of that convoy still seems to be in Russia
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 12:15 PM
Mar 2022

or Belarus. I doubt Ukraine will cross the border to attack Russia troops inside Russia itself.

Javaman

(62,504 posts)
5. Rasputitsa
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 12:06 PM
Mar 2022

Rasputitsa
Rasputitsa (Russian: распу́тица, IPA: [rɐsˈputʲɪtsə]) is a Russian term for two seasons of the year, spring and autumn, when travel on unpaved roads or across country becomes difficult, owing to muddy conditions from rain or melting snow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasputitsa

There are epic stories of entire tanks vanishing into the mud.

Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

keithbvadu2

(36,671 posts)
9. Napoleon and Hitler both found problems with weather in that part of Europe.
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 01:10 PM
Mar 2022

Napoleon and Hitler both found problems with weather in that part of Europe.

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