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orleans

(34,051 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 05:24 PM Mar 2022

fred guttenberg spent night in jail when he yelled out at SOTU, why not boebert?




2 years ago, I yelled out "what about victims of gun violence like my daughter" at SOTU. I did it for gun violence victims & spent most of night in jail.
@laurenboebert
did it to be an asshole. Why was she not removed & spending her night in jail?
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fred guttenberg spent night in jail when he yelled out at SOTU, why not boebert? (Original Post) orleans Mar 2022 OP
Lock her up! Meadowoak Mar 2022 #1
And throw away the key! Glorfindel Mar 2022 #2
Post removed Post removed Mar 2022 #3
I wonder if it would have been possible to make your point without coming off as an ... 11 Bravo Mar 2022 #4
Seems in keeping with the username unblock Mar 2022 #8
Those who do not recall history are doomed to repeat it Effete Snob Mar 2022 #11
i know where the phrase comes from, and most of us here certainly are anti-war. unblock Mar 2022 #20
TRUE Rebl2 Mar 2022 #15
Unfortunately not, sorry Effete Snob Mar 2022 #12
Apparently it did for Mr. Guttenberg. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #5
Guttenberg was a spectator in the Gallery. Caliman73 Mar 2022 #7
And what district did he represent at the time? Effete Snob Mar 2022 #10
Do you speak to people you don't know well like this in real life, LuckyCharms Mar 2022 #14
No Effete Snob Mar 2022 #18
Sure you do. Bobstandard Mar 2022 #19
A perfect response for Fred. SYFROYH Mar 2022 #17
Effete Snob said it plainly. Caliman73 Mar 2022 #6
The quick and easy is the Constitution, Article I, Section 6, Clause 1 bottomofthehill Mar 2022 #9
Breach of the Peace you say? mwooldri Mar 2022 #22
In this context Breach if Peace bottomofthehill Mar 2022 #23
That is a pressbox69 Mar 2022 #13
trump is Vlad's man servant ! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #16
K&R. nt Wednesdays Mar 2022 #21

Response to orleans (Original post)

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
4. I wonder if it would have been possible to make your point without coming off as an ...
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 05:39 PM
Mar 2022

unnecessarily combative jerk.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
11. Those who do not recall history are doomed to repeat it
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 06:49 PM
Mar 2022

Amazing how many Spiro Agnew fans I manage to find.

https://politicaldictionary.com/words/effete-snobs/

“Effete snobs” was a phrase used by Vice President Spiro Agnew to denounce anti-war protesters, and young intellectuals in general, during the Vietnam era. The phrase quickly caught on and was adopted as a slogan by the anti-war movement.

Opposing war is, I suppose, no longer fashionable for some.

unblock

(52,208 posts)
20. i know where the phrase comes from, and most of us here certainly are anti-war.
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 08:00 PM
Mar 2022

but it doesn't entitle you to trash the o.p. the way you did.

i see that post has been removed at least.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
7. Guttenberg was a spectator in the Gallery.
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 05:42 PM
Mar 2022

Similar to anti-war protestors and Code Pink in the past. They get removed and can be charged with Breach of Peace or trying to disrupt a government function.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
14. Do you speak to people you don't know well like this in real life,
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 07:11 PM
Mar 2022

or just on the internet?

Serious question.

Bobstandard

(1,305 posts)
19. Sure you do.
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 07:31 PM
Mar 2022

I’m guessing you go home and think of all the smart things you could have said if only your wit was a bit quicker.

SYFROYH

(34,169 posts)
17. A perfect response for Fred.
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 07:20 PM
Mar 2022

Maybe Fred can get elected as a US Rep so that he can yell at the President, too.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
6. Effete Snob said it plainly.
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 05:41 PM
Mar 2022

Elected officials cannot be arrested for non-criminal actions while actively on the floor of Congress.

People in the gallery who cause a disruption can be arrested for disturbing the peace or trespassing.


Does that suck? Yes it does. It is what it is however. I understand the sentiment from Guttenberg. The proper response is to organize against Boebert continuing to be the Representative from the 3rd Congressional District in Colorado.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
9. The quick and easy is the Constitution, Article I, Section 6, Clause 1
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 05:56 PM
Mar 2022

Article I, Section 6, Clause 1:

The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
22. Breach of the Peace you say?
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 08:30 PM
Mar 2022

Would what that so-called Representative did rise to "breach of the Peace"? Basically it's disorderly conduct... And Boebert's conduct certainly would be "disorderly".

But the fact that she's a Rep gives her a lot of latitude.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
23. In this context Breach if Peace
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 11:42 PM
Mar 2022

Means an action that causes “a clear and present danger” lacking that there is nothing chargeable for her to be removed. Just shouting bullshit ( the one trick she has ) is a clear breach of decorum in the Hiuse Chamber, but it is not a chargeable offense.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
13. That is a
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 07:09 PM
Mar 2022

great picture of Boebert's face. Reminds one of Monica. Or of Trumpy when he was face to whatever with his beloved Pootie.

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